American Politics VII: Virginia Reel

[Antipatros]

Larry will be speaking in about 10-15 minutes.

They're now showing "voter fraud" stories that are currently running on Fox News.

This is kind of a fucked up thing to observe, but the crowd is definitely quite white (not entirely, of course). On the other hand, the people that are providing testimonials are often non-white.

[The Black Forrest]

Larry will be speaking in about 10-15 minutes.

oh no I turned the TV off and the remote is out of reach. oh nooooo

Hah! That was better then I was going to write.

[Senkaku]

You seem to think the issue here is that someone’s saying Gen. Milley is a bad dude who did the wrong thing; it’s not, it’s that already weak civilian control of the military (the only institution which commands social trust) has been weakened enough that the civilian government may be so afflicted by crisis that it has to fully turn over national security and foreign policy to the military for periods as it sorts out a succession process. Fortunately our military are indoctrinated to respect civilian control, and they returned it as soon as possible and with as little media attention as possible, but again: think about how this plays if you’re an outsider and you get the call from Washington that this is happening.

Really this sort of thing should never happen. It should never even cross a general's mind that such a course of action may be necessary. The US is not supposed to be like this. It is now though, and things are probably going to get worse, not better.

“Not supposed to be like this”? What is it “supposed” to be like, at this point? Stepping up to preserve peace and a facade of civilian administration seems like the best case scenario for our generals in the next century, the question now is how to maintain the military’s constitutional indoctrination as the constitutional order it glorifies loses legitimacy and falls apart— or, more likely, what institution will begin to be glorified in its place as the foundation of military discipline.

[Conservative Republic Of Huang]

You seem to think the issue here is that someone’s saying Gen. Milley is a bad dude who did the wrong thing; it’s not, it’s that already weak civilian control of the military (the only institution which commands social trust) has been weakened enough that the civilian government may be so afflicted by crisis that it has to fully turn over national security and foreign policy to the military for periods as it sorts out a succession process. Fortunately our military are indoctrinated to respect civilian control, and they returned it as soon as possible and with as little media attention as possible, but again: think about how this plays if you’re an outsider and you get the call from Washington that this is happening.

Really this sort of thing should never happen. It should never even cross a general's mind that such a course of action may be necessary. The US is not supposed to be like this. It is now though, and things are probably going to get worse, not better.

...he said, as the Reichstag burned around him.

[Odreria]

Really this sort of thing should never happen. It should never even cross a general's mind that such a course of action may be necessary. The US is not supposed to be like this. It is now though, and things are probably going to get worse, not better.

...he said, as the Reichstag burned around him.

today is nothing like weimar germany. It's a really dumb and lazy comparison.

[Cannot think of a name]

Well, if Elder did speak the ABC stream gave no fucks. They're re-running Newsom's victory speech.

[Antipatros]

Really this sort of thing should never happen. It should never even cross a general's mind that such a course of action may be necessary. The US is not supposed to be like this. It is now though, and things are probably going to get worse, not better.

“Not supposed to be like this”? What is it “supposed” to be like, at this point? Stepping up to preserve peace and a facade of civilian administration seems like the best case scenario for our generals in the next century, the question now is how to maintain the military’s constitutional indoctrination as the constitutional order it glorifies loses legitimacy and falls apart— or, more likely, what institution will begin to be glorified in its place as the foundation of military discipline.

Ideally, Trump would have conceded and begun the process for handing over power a few days after the election. At a bare minimum, he should have conceded after SCOTUS dismissed that legal case brought by conservative states.

The current state of US politics should not be what it is.

Well, if Elder did speak the ABC stream gave no fucks. They're re-running Newsom's victory speech.

He still hasn't spoken yet.

[Conservative Republic Of Huang]

...he said, as the Reichstag burned around him.

today is nothing like weimar germany. It's a really dumb and lazy comparison.

I apologize if I did not plumb the depths of my mind for a more apt comparison to use in a snarky comment.

[The Black Forrest]

They're now showing "voter fraud" stories that are currently running on Fox News.

This is kind of a fucked up thing to observe, but the crowd is definitely quite white (not entirely, of course). On the other hand, the people that are providing testimonials are often non-white.

I made the mistake of going to the Fox News site. All the hate for the General.

I think I understand the cons better now. They really miss the USSR and the life during that era.

[San Lumen]

https://www.13abc.com/2021/09/15/wade-c ... edo-mayor/

In Toledo located in the northwest part of Ohio on Lake Erie, Mayor Wade Kapszukiewic and former Mayor Carty Finkbeiner will advance to the November general election.

[Antipatros]

Elder is out onto the stage.

https://www.electelder.com/

[Great Algerstonia]

Oh so.you are doing. bit. commitment is these bur the material needs work.

communism killed over 100 million people and it all started when the sexist senator yelled so much on tv and made me feel unsafe

true

[The Alma Mater]

Larry will be speaking in about 10-15 minutes.

They're now showing "voter fraud" stories that are currently running on Fox News.

You mean his "detailed analysis of the election results showing Fraud and that Larry won"... that was made and leaked BEFORE there were any election results ?

Surely Fox finds that little fact newsworty. It is amazing entertainment.

[Cannot think of a name]

“Not supposed to be like this”? What is it “supposed” to be like, at this point? Stepping up to preserve peace and a facade of civilian administration seems like the best case scenario for our generals in the next century, the question now is how to maintain the military’s constitutional indoctrination as the constitutional order it glorifies loses legitimacy and falls apart— or, more likely, what institution will begin to be glorified in its place as the foundation of military discipline.

Ideally, Trump would have conceded and begun the process for handing over power a few days after the election. At a bare minimum, he should have conceded after SCOTUS dismissed that legal case brought by conservative states.

The current state of US politics should not be what it is.

Well, if Elder did speak the ABC stream gave no fucks. They're re-running Newsom's victory speech.

He still hasn't spoken yet.

Yeah, here he is. And his audio mixer sucks.

[Antipatros]

They're now showing "voter fraud" stories that are currently running on Fox News.

You mean his "detailed analysis of the election results showing Fraud and that Larry won"... that was made and leaked BEFORE there were any election results ?

Surely Fox finds that little fact newsworty. It is amazing entertainment.

It was some lady that had her registration allegedly screwed up. She was wrongfully registered as a Democrat, supposedly.

They heavily implied (wink wink nudge nudge) that this was part of a nefarious plot.

[The Black Forrest]

Elder is out onto the stage.

https://www.electelder.com/

Thanks. Got bored really quick though.

[Antipatros]

Oh shit, he said "let's be gracious in defeat", and "we may have lost the battle, but we will win the war".

Kinda looks like he's conceding.

[San Lumen]

Oh shit, he said "let's be gracious in defeat", and "we may have lost the battle, but we will win the war".

Kinda looks like he's conceding.

Surprised he didn’t claim fraud.

[Cannot think of a name]

Elder is out onto the stage.

https://www.electelder.com/

Thanks. Got bored really quick though.

So far this feels like Quentin Beck talking to his Mysterio contributors..."You...you did a thing. This guy...what's up this guy..."

Dude, your opponent wasn't Gavin Newsom...

He just said 'be gracious in defeat' and 'we may have lost the battle', sounds like he ran out of steam on the whole 'fraud' thing. Now he's just making the same pitch that didn't work.

[Cannot think of a name]

Oh shit, he said "let's be gracious in defeat", and "we may have lost the battle, but we will win the war".

Kinda looks like he's conceding.

Ninjas...you never see them coming.

[Great Algerstonia]

Oh shit, he said "let's be gracious in defeat", and "we may have lost the battle, but we will win the war".

Kinda looks like he's conceding.

Surprised he didn’t claim fraud.

You shouldn't have been... just stop with the fearmongering

[Odreria]

today is nothing like weimar germany. It's a really dumb and lazy comparison.

I apologize if I did not plumb the depths of my mind for a more apt comparison to use in a snarky comment.

yeah my bad

[Cannot think of a name]

Surprised he didn’t claim fraud.

You shouldn't have been... just stop with the fearmongering

I mean, he did have a release about the election being fraudulent before it was even cast, so...is he really fear mongering or just recognizing current events?

[Corrian]

Surprised he didn’t claim fraud.

You shouldn't have been... just stop with the fearmongering

How is it fear mongering when they were literally posting stuff claiming fraud before the election even started?

[Cannot think of a name]

Was his argument based on not enough teachers are fired based on a colloquialism about 'competence'?