American Politics VII: Virginia Reel

[The Black Forrest]

We have countermeasures and so do they.

One military man's misguided attempt at being a hero likely wouldn't impact the speed or efficacy of anti-ICBM infrastructure.

Ohh he wanted to be a hero? Ok. Your evidence?

You seem to forget St. Reagans joke about signing orders to start bombing the Soviet Union. Soviet Eastern command missed the [/s] and the smile emojis and started things in motion. We saw activities and did some alert prep as well….

The issue is not making people start prepping for a possible fight.

[Cannot think of a name]

Yeah, draw the line between "Make sure we follow procedures" to the military setting the marginal tax rate or negotiating trade policy.

For fuck's sake. Most of these 'the military is going rogue' turn out to be 'the military refused to follow illegal orders even from the president'. Not really that panic inducing.

The chief of the general staff was doing shadow foreign relations because the president had lost the confidence of the government and there were no civilians with a mandate to immediately take power. I’m not freaking out and predicting Sulla 2.0 imminently massacring people in the streets or anything, I don’t think we’re there yet, but to completely deny this is a strong indicator of the fragility of the American state is sticking your head in the sand. Certainly I don’t think you can argue that anyone in Zhongnanhai who got that call would see it any other way.

Or, to freak out over them following procedure is manufacturing outrage.

[Tarsonis]

Ha! For once the thread is way ahead of you. Except maybe not specifically NPR...I can't remember all the 'called' posts.

The ABC stream continues to not give a fuck. They cut in for part of Newsom's speech and then went back to packages.

I’ve been working at the polls
busy laughing at my ass off rn


I’m pretty sure this circus cost us like $300 million btw

You're giving out stimulus checks, I think you're fine.

[Outer Sparta]

The second ballot option to pick who to succeed as governor in the event of a recall basically had nobody even remotely qualified. You got a random splotch of candidates from both parties as well as independents and third party candidates who are either incompetent, crazy, both, or just flat-out unqualified.

I think I already in this thread posited the ideal 'oopsie' scenario where an actual 'far left' candidate benefits from the Republicans trying to do an end run around the normal election.

Now Elder and the CA GOP are crying voter fraud and rigged election, because if you lose an election by a huge margin and get a smackdown, that definitely means fraud happened.

[Cannot think of a name]

I’ve been working at the polls
busy laughing at my ass off rn


I’m pretty sure this circus cost us like $300 million btw

You're giving out stimulus checks, I think you're fine.

Whatever happened to the California stimulus checks? Did I just make that up? Wait...don't answer. I have google.

[Odreria]

this u?

Oh no I'm cancelled

I mean it does kind of make you wonder how somebody hates on mao but also votes against caitlyn jenner

[Proctopeo]

One military man's misguided attempt at being a hero likely wouldn't impact the speed or efficacy of anti-ICBM infrastructure.


The most moral option in such a case is to not do anything. Aiding your countrymen in an unjust war is immoral, but so is aiding the enemy in killing your countrymen.

Again, nuclear war isn't the same as conventional war. If we launch, so will they. We know we cannot eliminate their capability before they counter launch, even with no warning.


Ffs didn't any of you watch wargames?

I may be confused, but are you saying that an early warning really wouldn't do anything substantial?

The pieces are falling into place.

the place is falling to pieces

I have returned from Washington with peace for our time.

The chief of the general staff was doing shadow foreign relations because the president had lost the confidence of the government and there were no civilians with a mandate to immediately take power. I’m not freaking out and predicting Sulla 2.0 imminently massacring people in the streets or anything, I don’t think we’re there yet, but to completely deny this is a strong indicator of the fragility of the American state is sticking your head in the sand. Certainly I don’t think you can argue that anyone in Zhongnanhai who got that call would see it any other way.

Or, to freak out over them following procedure is manufacturing outrage.

You really don't seem to be aware of what actually happened lmao

[Cannot think of a name]

I think I already in this thread posited the ideal 'oopsie' scenario where an actual 'far left' candidate benefits from the Republicans trying to do an end run around the normal election.

Now Elder and the CA GOP are crying voter fraud and rigged election, because if you lose an election by a huge margin and get a smackdown, that definitely means fraud happened.

Losing an election that was polling for a loss in a deeply blue state while running as a Trump Republican? Must be fraud if it followed every single indicator...

[Tarsonis]

You're conflating nuclear war with conventional war. In a nuclear war everybody dies.

The general mentioned conventional attacks

This was never about conventional attacks. Nobody is worried about conventional attacks. Convdnfional attacks take mountains of logistics, days of build up and posturing, plenty of time for cooler heads to prevail. This is about nuclear attacks which the president can order up in less time it takes to order a pizza.

[Antipatros]

Update on the Larry Elder livestream: They are alternating between a live band and voter testimonials. Many voters are pretty much saying that it's not over yet and that Elder is still gonna win. Others are conceding that Elder is probably going to lose, and that he should try again next time.

Many of the people appear to be from Orange County. I'm not sure if that is where this event is being held.

[Cannot think of a name]

The general mentioned conventional attacks

This was never about conventional attacks. Nobody is worried about conventional attacks. Convdnfional attacks take mountains of logistics, days of build up and posturing, plenty of time for cooler heads to prevail. This is about nuclear attacks which the president can order up in less time it takes to order a pizza.

Or behaving so erratically that his actions could trigger a pre-emptive strike and as someone tasked with protecting the United States he...protected the United States.

[Corrian]

Okay so at the moment Newsom is blowing out even my predictions.

[New Rogernomics]

Update on the Larry Elder livestream: They are alternating between a live band and voter testimonials. Many voters are pretty much saying that it's not over yet and that Elder is still gonna win. Others are conceding that Elder is probably going to lose, and that he should try again next time.

Many of the people appear to be from Orange County. I'm not sure if that is where this event is being held.

Larry Elder's imagination land clearly at this point, and those voters probably only watch Newsmax and OANN.

[Cannot think of a name]

Update on the Larry Elder livestream: They are alternating between a live band and voter testimonials. Many voters are pretty much saying that it's not over yet and that Elder is still gonna win. Others are conceding that Elder is probably going to lose, and that he should try again next time.

Many of the people appear to be from Orange County. I'm not sure if that is where this event is being held.

It'd be one of the few places where he could find friendly faces and open wallets.

[Tarsonis]

Again, nuclear war isn't the same as conventional war. If we launch, so will they. We know we cannot eliminate their capability before they counter launch, even with no warning.


Ffs didn't any of you watch wargames?

I may be confused, but are you saying that an early warning really wouldn't do anything substantial?

the place is falling to pieces

I have returned from Washington with peace for our time.

Or, to freak out over them following procedure is manufacturing outrage.

You really don't seem to be aware of what actually happened lmao

early warning gives the opposing side a chance to activate counter measures and reduce the scope of
violence. By putting China on an even footing, you can actually contain the damage rather than China getting blind sides launching everything cause "fuck it if we're going we're taking everyone with us."

not saying is guaranteed but there's a chance.

[San Lumen]

https://www.wcvb.com/article/boston-mas ... 4/37502410

Boston held its mayoral and city council primary. Final results will not be for awhile but it appears Boston will elect its first woman mayor.

City councilors Michelle Wu and Annissa Essaibi-George will advance to the general election. Incumbent mayor Kim Janey was seeking a full term after becoming mayor due to Marty Walsh’s resignation to become labor secretary. Janey is the first mayor in 72 years to lose a primary.

[The Black Forrest]

I’ve been working at the polls
busy laughing at my ass off rn


I’m pretty sure this circus cost us like $300 million btw

worth it for one shot at freedom

Oh I know I am going to regret this. What freedom was that and with whom was it possible?

[Outer Sparta]

Now Elder and the CA GOP are crying voter fraud and rigged election, because if you lose an election by a huge margin and get a smackdown, that definitely means fraud happened.

Losing an election that was polling for a loss in a deeply blue state while running as a Trump Republican? Must be fraud if it followed every single indicator...

Elder fits perfectly in the Trump Republican role given the amount of batshit crazy things he's said recently.

Update on the Larry Elder livestream: They are alternating between a live band and voter testimonials. Many voters are pretty much saying that it's not over yet and that Elder is still gonna win. Others are conceding that Elder is probably going to lose, and that he should try again next time.

Many of the people appear to be from Orange County. I'm not sure if that is where this event is being held.

I mean, it's Orange County. Although the results show Orange County voting no by a good amount, there are still lots of Republicans there and it's basically an ancestral place for them.

[Jeriga]

Oh no I'm cancelled

I mean it does kind of make you wonder how somebody hates on mao but also votes against caitlyn jenner

You're not gonna have a good time pushing identity politics here

[Tarsonis]

worth it for one shot at freedom

Oh I know I am going to regret this. What freedom was that and with whom was it possible?

Freedom to throw the football around, and Tommy Wiseau

[Cannot think of a name]

I mean it does kind of make you wonder how somebody hates on mao but also votes against caitlyn jenner

You're not gonna have a good time pushing identity politics here

He's doing a bit. He's been casting a wide net for a while now.

[Antipatros]

Larry will be speaking in about 10-15 minutes.

[Proctopeo]

I may be confused, but are you saying that an early warning really wouldn't do anything substantial?


I have returned from Washington with peace for our time.


You really don't seem to be aware of what actually happened lmao

early warning gives the opposing side a chance to activate counter measures and reduce the scope of
violence. By putting China on an even footing, you can actually contain the damage rather than China getting blind sides launching everything cause "fuck it if we're going we're taking everyone with us."

not saying is guaranteed but there's a chance.

Given how the PRC tends to think, it's quite the small chance imo.

[Tarsonis]

https://www.wcvb.com/article/boston-massachusetts-2021-mayoral-primary-election-results-september-14/37502410

Boston held its mayoral and city council primary. Final results will not be for awhile but it appears Boston will elect its first woman mayor.

City councilors Michelle Wu and Annissa Essaibi-George will advance to the general election. Incumbent mayor Kim Janey was seeking a full term after becoming mayor due to Marty Walsh’s resignation to become labor secretary. Janey is the first mayor in 72 years to lose a primary.

Nothing I love more than having my local news be dominated for three months by an election I can't vote in. Boston really needs to annex the outer boroughs

[Tarsonis]

early warning gives the opposing side a chance to activate counter measures and reduce the scope of
violence. By putting China on an even footing, you can actually contain the damage rather than China getting blind sides launching everything cause "fuck it if we're going we're taking everyone with us."

not saying is guaranteed but there's a chance.

Given how the PRC tends to think, it's quite the small chance imo.

a small chance is better than no chance.