American Politics VII: Virginia Reel

[Vassenor]

The labor shortage is real in the sense that it's being artificially created by employers who refuse to negotiate wages, capitalist apologists like to claim that wages are 'agreed upon' between employee and employer and yet now when all these workers say they aren't willing to accept wages that won't pay the bills the employers slander them as 'lazy' instead of actually negotiating.
The employers have always held the cards because when one protests the low wage it's the employees problem, but now when millions protest low wages it's a problem for the employers.

No I’m actively trying to get hired at the places that claim to be short staffed and they just ignore you. It’s literally a lie

And what makes your experience representative?

[Lady Victory]

No I’m actively trying to get hired at the places that claim to be short staffed and they just ignore you. It’s literally a lie

And what makes your experience representative?

Because it's fucking true lmao.

It's my experience as well.

[Vassenor]

And what makes your experience representative?

Because it's fucking true lmao.

It's my experience as well.

Same question.

[Rostavykhan]

The labor shortage is real in the sense that it's being artificially created by employers who refuse to negotiate wages, capitalist apologists like to claim that wages are 'agreed upon' between employee and employer and yet now when all these workers say they aren't willing to accept wages that won't pay the bills the employers slander them as 'lazy' instead of actually negotiating.
The employers have always held the cards because when one protests the low wage it's the employees problem, but now when millions protest low wages it's a problem for the employers.

No I’m actively trying to get hired at the places that claim to be short staffed and they just ignore you. It’s literally a lie

I know this feel. Also a lot of other folks who have similar experiences with being ignored in multiple applications to supposedly short-staffed jobs. There was recently a news story that popped up about a guy in Florida who applied to sixty jobs with companies that exclusively were vocal about the labour shortage, only to get a single interview. You'd think that if so many businesses were that desperate for work, they would be jumping on new applicants.

And what makes your experience representative?

Because it's fucking true lmao.

It's my experience as well.

But do you have a source for that?

It doesn't exist unless there's a source.

Sources are non-negotiable.

[Lady Victory]

Yep.


They are promoting patriotism and morality.

Morality is good, but who cares about patriotism, I think patriotism is harmful. I support anti-patriotism (I am not patriotic, and I am not neutral, I am opposed to patriotism).

Genuine patriotism is not harmful; it brings the people of a country together. Faux patriotism, the kind establishment Dems and the GOP espouse, is absolutely harmful because it's hollow and empty virtue signaling to convince people they aren't blood-sucking leeches who are robbing America blind and running it into the ground.

[USS Monitor]

The whole "labor shortage" thing is interesting because companies and the news are treating it like some sort of mysterious disappearance when people aren't really trying to hide that those jobs are miserable and can not support them.

All the articles are from a corporate standpoint too, like they will do anything but recognize the value of the jobs so-called "unskilled laborers" do. It's very dehumanizing.

I've seen some stories of businesses where they tried offering better wages and that solved the problem. It might not work in every case, but it should at least be on the table as an option.

[Lady Victory]

Because it's fucking true lmao.

It's my experience as well.

Same question.

Literally ask any working class person in America. Most of them will give you the same answer.

This isn't fucking hard, Vass. But I don't expect a middle class Briton to understand what the American proletariat have to go through.

[Genivaria]

The labor shortage is real in the sense that it's being artificially created by employers who refuse to negotiate wages, capitalist apologists like to claim that wages are 'agreed upon' between employee and employer and yet now when all these workers say they aren't willing to accept wages that won't pay the bills the employers slander them as 'lazy' instead of actually negotiating.
The employers have always held the cards because when one protests the low wage it's the employees problem, but now when millions protest low wages it's a problem for the employers.

No I’m actively trying to get hired at the places that claim to be short staffed and they just ignore you. It’s literally a lie

That's another example of it being artificially created. Lots of job-seekers are reporting that companies that claim to be desperate for people but never respond to applications.

[Saiwania]

No I’m actively trying to get hired at the places that claim to be short staffed and they just ignore you. It’s literally a lie

Its true that tons of businesses lie or something else is going on behind the scenes. But I don't take it to mean that no businesses are struggling. If no workers were needed anywhere, certain businesses shouldn't be raising their wages or pouring more effort into recruiting like is happening. The smaller a business is, the more likely they are to need someone who fits the role more immediately and don't have some opaque HR keeping people away.

[Rostavykhan]

Morality is good, but who cares about patriotism, I think patriotism is harmful. I support anti-patriotism (I am not patriotic, and I am not neutral, I am opposed to patriotism).

Genuine patriotism is not harmful; it brings the people of a country together. Faux patriotism, the kind establishment Dems and the GOP espouse, is absolutely harmful because it's hollow and empty virtue signaling to convince people they aren't blood-sucking leeches who are robbing America blind and running it into the ground.

The patriotism of the Neoliberal elite is one that poisons the soul of a people, and degrades the principles of the nation.

The patriotism of the people is one that upholds the dignity of the nation and fosters comradery among the people.

#notmyregime.

[Lady Victory]

Genuine patriotism is not harmful; it brings the people of a country together. Faux patriotism, the kind establishment Dems and the GOP espouse, is absolutely harmful because it's hollow and empty virtue signaling to convince people they aren't blood-sucking leeches who are robbing America blind and running it into the ground.

The patriotism of the Neoliberal elite is one that poisons the soul of a people, and degrades the principles of the nation.

The patriotism of the people is one that upholds the dignity of the nation and fosters comradery among the people.

#notmyregime.

Based.

Also objectively true.

[Maricarland]

No I’m actively trying to get hired at the places that claim to be short staffed and they just ignore you. It’s literally a lie

That's another example of it being artificially created. Lots of job-seekers are reporting that companies that claim to be desperate for people but never respond to applications.

I've heard and seen that occur to a lot of people in my community.

[USS Monitor]

No I’m actively trying to get hired at the places that claim to be short staffed and they just ignore you. It’s literally a lie

And what makes your experience representative?

It is actually a widespread problem because some industries have broken HR systems. If they are using software to screen resumes, the software can screen out qualified applicants because their resume didn't describe their skills and experience in exactly the same words as the software is looking for.

How much work experience do you have, by the way? Like do you have the first clue what you're talking about? I'm guessing "not a lot" and "most definitely no."

[Maricarland]

And what makes your experience representative?

It is actually a widespread problem because some industries have broken HR systems. If they are using software to screen resumes, the software can screen out qualified applicants because their resume didn't describe their skills and experience in exactly the same words as the software is looking for.

How much work experience do you have, by the way? Like do you have the first clue what you're talking about? I'm guessing "not a lot" and "most definitely no."

They constantly ask you to have 5 years experience in management for an entry level job. They are insane.

[USS Monitor]

Same question.

Literally ask any working class person in America. Most of them will give you the same answer.

This isn't fucking hard, Vass. But I don't expect a middle class Briton to understand what the American proletariat have to go through.

I'd be surprised if she understands what her fellow Brits have to go through.

[USS Monitor]

It is actually a widespread problem because some industries have broken HR systems. If they are using software to screen resumes, the software can screen out qualified applicants because their resume didn't describe their skills and experience in exactly the same words as the software is looking for.

How much work experience do you have, by the way? Like do you have the first clue what you're talking about? I'm guessing "not a lot" and "most definitely no."

They constantly ask you to have 5 years experience in management for an entry level job. They are insane.

Yes, some places take very simple jobs or skills and try to make them more of a big to-do. I remember a temp agency I tried to sign up for that asked applicants to go through a giant laundry list of skills, listing years of experience and rating their skill basic, intermediate, or advanced -- even for stuff like typing or envelope stuffing. I looked at the giant wall of shit they wanted filled out and just gave up.

[Genivaria]

It is actually a widespread problem because some industries have broken HR systems. If they are using software to screen resumes, the software can screen out qualified applicants because their resume didn't describe their skills and experience in exactly the same words as the software is looking for.

How much work experience do you have, by the way? Like do you have the first clue what you're talking about? I'm guessing "not a lot" and "most definitely no."

They constantly ask you to have 5 years experience in management for an entry level job. They are insane.

Saw a job posting yesterday that demanded a doctorate for $16 an hour.
A goddamn DOCTORATE.

[Saiwania]

Saw a job posting yesterday that demanded a doctorate for $16 an hour. A goddamn DOCTORATE.

Its not right, but it probably is doable if someone had a Doctorate in a useless degree and they were a "starving artist" type that is desperate. For a Doctor who's in demand or finds a university/school to hire them, they'll clearly not be taking it and that employer should really bring the expectations down or increase the wage.

[Kannap]

Texas never removed the law that defined marriage as between a man and a woman from their books, now state representative James White argues that same sex marriage is still illegal in Texas and writes the Attorney General asking for clarification, states "the Supreme Court has no power to amend formally or revoke a state statute or constitutional provision — even after opining that the state law violates the Supreme Court’s interpretation of the Constitution"

Texas also never removed from their books the law that classifies "homosexual conduct" ("deviate sexual intercourse with another individual of the same sex") either, which was struck down by the Supreme Court in 2003.

[San Lumen]

Texas never removed the law that defined marriage as between a man and a woman from their books, now state representative James White argues that same sex marriage is still illegal in Texas and writes the Attorney General asking for clarification, states "the Supreme Court has no power to amend formally or revoke a state statute or constitutional provision — even after opining that the state law violates the Supreme Court’s interpretation of the Constitution"

Texas also never removed from their books the law that classifies "homosexual conduct" ("deviate sexual intercourse with another individual of the same sex") either, which was struck down by the Supreme Court in 2003.

This won't go anywhere. Mississippi tried to claim same sex adoption was still illegal after the Ogberfell decisions and the courts didn't agree.

[Kannap]

Texas never removed the law that defined marriage as between a man and a woman from their books, now state representative James White argues that same sex marriage is still illegal in Texas and writes the Attorney General asking for clarification, states "the Supreme Court has no power to amend formally or revoke a state statute or constitutional provision — even after opining that the state law violates the Supreme Court’s interpretation of the Constitution"

Texas also never removed from their books the law that classifies "homosexual conduct" ("deviate sexual intercourse with another individual of the same sex") either, which was struck down by the Supreme Court in 2003.

This won't go anywhere. Mississippi tried to claim same sex adoption was still illegal after the Ogberfell decisions and the courts didn't agree.

I wouldn't be so sure this won't go anywhere, considering what Texas is presently doing with abortion and the Supreme Court hasn't blocked that.

[San Lumen]

This won't go anywhere. Mississippi tried to claim same sex adoption was still illegal after the Ogberfell decisions and the courts didn't agree.

I wouldn't be so sure this won't go anywhere, considering what Texas is presently doing with abortion and the Supreme Court hasn't blocked that.

There was case involving same sex adoption in Indiana last year and court refused to take it up allowing the lower court ruling to stand.

[Kannap]

I wouldn't be so sure this won't go anywhere, considering what Texas is presently doing with abortion and the Supreme Court hasn't blocked that.

There was case involving same sex adoption in Indiana last year and court refused to take it up allowing the lower court ruling to stand.

If you want to bury your head in the sand instead of realizing conservative politicians don't give a shit and want to undo all this progress and finally have a Supreme Court that may very well do that, be my guest.

[San Lumen]

There was case involving same sex adoption in Indiana last year and court refused to take it up allowing the lower court ruling to stand.

If you want to bury your head in the sand instead of realizing conservative politicians don't give a shit and want to undo all this progress and finally have a Supreme Court that may very well do that, be my guest.

Trump's judges were already on the court and refused to take up the case.

[Cannot think of a name]

Because it's fucking true lmao.

It's my experience as well.

Same question.

They really aren't alone.
WSJ thinks it's a software problem
Forbes weighed in.
This Harvard study of the phenom is in regards to shitty sorting.
Their stories are not actually uncommon. Aside from those sources there are more than just these two who have anecdotally complained that despite the so-called 'desperation' for workers, they haven't been getting calls back from dozens of applications.

Edit: Also.