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Who do you think will win the Virginia Gubernatorial Race?

Terry McAuliffe(D)
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57%
Glenn Youngkin(R)
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Total votes : 100

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Shrillland
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:53 pm

Odreria wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
Because Californians don’t want radical Trumpist Larry Elder to become their governor.

no I don't that's why I voted for caitlyn jenner


At this moment, she's in 12th place with just under 50,000 votes.
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Jeriga
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Postby Jeriga » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:53 pm

Odreria wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
Because Californians don’t want radical Trumpist Larry Elder to become their governor.

no I don't that's why I voted for caitlyn jenner

That was also dumb
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Tarsonis
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:54 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:That we know of. Remember this is the guy that wanted to nuke hurricanes.

I feel like we'd be quite aware if he decided to go long with the nuclear football.


Only if he pulled the trigger. We won't know about all the times he had to be talked out of nuking the hippo, until its declassified in 75 years.
Tarsonis wrote:
That's not necessarily a bad thing. In quite a few ways, it could be the most patriotic act one could do.

Elaborate.



If giving the Chinese advanced warning can reduce casualties, limit the scope of return fire/the level of conflict, it's a far more patriotic act than quietly standing by as the president launches a full volley.
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Odreria
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Postby Odreria » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:54 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Odreria wrote:no I don't that's why I voted for caitlyn jenner


At this moment, she's in 12th place with just under 50,000 votes.

more proof that the democratic party is institutionally transphobic
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Jeriga
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Postby Jeriga » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:54 pm

Odreria wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
At this moment, she's in 12th place with just under 50,000 votes.

more proof that the democratic party is institutionally transphobic


Or, and this may be a Longshot, former gold medalists and celebrities don't usually make good candidates?
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Tarsonis
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:54 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Lanceros for me because Starbuck in Battlestar Galactica and Hannibal from A-Team smoked them. Sort of throws a spanner into insisting that I wasn't influenced in smoking cigars.


Ever meet her? She is cooool! She admitted she smokes them every so often.


Katee Sachoff is Sci-fi royalty. Right up there with Amanda Tapping and Sigourney Weaver.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:55 pm

Jeriga wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Stupid streaming service...they haven't said shit.

Well, chalk one up for sanity.

I'm streaming it too. They just put a note on the side of their screen. Nothing verbal

I just saw that. I don't know if I have lag or just didn't notice it because their screen is really fucking busy. Oh, here's Newsom speechifying.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby Picairn » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:55 pm

Odreria wrote:no I don't that's why I voted for caitlyn jenner

> Keeping up with the Kardashians participant

Nope.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:56 pm

Odreria wrote:why tf is newsom winning...


Well? California doesn’t care to have a 45 clone?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:56 pm

Odreria wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
At this moment, she's in 12th place with just under 50,000 votes.

more proof that the democratic party is institutionally transphobic

wakka wakka wakka!
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Jeriga
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Postby Jeriga » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:56 pm

Picairn wrote:
Odreria wrote:no I don't that's why I voted for caitlyn jenner

> Keeping up with the Kardashians participant

Nope.

I just killed a fella named picairn in AC3...
I'd be a real socialist if I thought it could actually work.

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Postby Picairn » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:57 pm

Jeriga wrote:I just killed a fella named picairn in AC3...

Assassin's Creed? Never played it.
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Albrenia wrote:With great power comes great mockability.

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Moralityland wrote:big corporations allied with the communist elite
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Listen here Jack, we're going to destroy malarkey.
♔ The Empire of Picairn ♔
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Tarsonis
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:57 pm

You heard it first here folks. Democracy is, indeed, not a football.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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Odreria
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Postby Odreria » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:58 pm

Picairn wrote:
Odreria wrote:no I don't that's why I voted for caitlyn jenner

> Keeping up with the Kardashians participant

Nope.

this u?
Picairn wrote:I regret to inform you that Maoism does not defend trans rights in any way, shape or form. Under Mao, homosexuality and trans rights were criminalized and persecuted. You would have been among the first to be interned into reeducation camps or humiliated by the fanatic Red Guards for being a "degenerate" in the Cultural Revolution.
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Jeriga
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Postby Jeriga » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:58 pm

Picairn wrote:
Jeriga wrote:I just killed a fella named picairn in AC3...

Assassin's Creed? Never played it.

You should
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Jeriga
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Postby Jeriga » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:59 pm

Tarsonis wrote:You heard it first here folks. Democracy is, indeed, not a football.

It's more like a, uh, antique vase!
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Postby Picairn » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:59 pm

Odreria wrote:this u?
Picairn wrote:I regret to inform you that Maoism does not defend trans rights in any way, shape or form. Under Mao, homosexuality and trans rights were criminalized and persecuted. You would have been among the first to be interned into reeducation camps or humiliated by the fanatic Red Guards for being a "degenerate" in the Cultural Revolution.

Oh no I'm cancelled :roll:
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Tarsonis
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:01 pm

Jeriga wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:You heard it first here folks. Democracy is, indeed, not a football.

It's more like a, uh, antique vase!


Newsome: "Democracy is not a football, you don't throw it around."

The World: obviously you kick it.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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Postby Antipatros » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:02 pm

https://www.electelder.com/

Livestream. Currently there's some lady saying it's not over yet.

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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:02 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:I feel like we'd be quite aware if he decided to go long with the nuclear football.


Only if he pulled the trigger. We won't know about all the times he had to be talked out of nuking the hippo, until its declassified in 75 years.

Fair point.


Elaborate.



If giving the Chinese advanced warning can reduce casualties, limit the scope of return fire/the level of conflict, it's a far more patriotic act than quietly standing by as the president launches a full volley.

The most likely outcome of an advanced warning is that the Chinese get their nukes out faster.
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Tarsonis
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:03 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Only if he pulled the trigger. We won't know about all the times he had to be talked out of nuking the hippo, until its declassified in 75 years.

Fair point.


If giving the Chinese advanced warning can reduce casualties, limit the scope of return fire/the level of conflict, it's a far more patriotic act than quietly standing by as the president launches a full volley.

The most likely outcome of an advanced warning is that the Chinese get their nukes out faster.


We have countermeasures and so do they.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:05 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Lanceros for me because Starbuck in Battlestar Galactica and Hannibal from A-Team smoked them. Sort of throws a spanner into insisting that I wasn't influenced in smoking cigars.


Ever meet her? She is cooool! She admitted she smokes them every so often.

I have not. The spread of sci fi people I've met is sporadic. (Doug Jones looks like an alien in person as well). Also not working at the special effects shop anymore cut off one of the biggest methods.

Influence wise I was talking the original Starbuck, but I would love to have a cigar adjacent to Sachoff. I can't imagine a scenario where she's having one specifically with me.

(adjacent is how I define the only actual random celebrity encounter I've had since moving here, DL Hugley came into the lounge I hang out in and watched his former road manager/bodyguard? Their relationship was hard to pin down...anyway I watched that dude either energetically wingman Hugley or try to use his famous friend to make time with this chick. Either way I got called 'badass' by a guy who could crush my head like a grape. Usually actual tough guys don't mistake me for a tough guy, so it was odd. I live literally in the middle of the actual studios, like the physical space the studios occupy and unless I'm working I never see famous people. Or maybe I do and my inability to recognize people makes me think I don't. I think the tall black character actor with beautiful eyes that does a lot of sci fi tipped me $20 once when I was busking but it could have just been another impossibly good looking tall bald black dude.)
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:06 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
We have countermeasures and so do they.

The fact that I sung this post in a Rick Astley voice means that I really should get the fuck off the internet...
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Jeriga
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Postby Jeriga » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:07 pm

I'm really quite surprised that you guys are taking the position that if America launches an unprovoked attack, it's better to warn the enemy so they can repulse it rather than support your own country once the war starts.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:08 pm

Jeriga wrote:I'm really quite surprised that you guys are taking the position that if America launches an unprovoked attack, it's better to warn the enemy so they can repulse it rather than support your own country once the war starts.

Not wanting to support an unjust war...crazypants.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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