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Who do you think will win the Virginia Gubernatorial Race?

Terry McAuliffe(D)
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Glenn Youngkin(R)
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Postby Relden » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:27 am

The V I C wrote:despite most of your beliefs being propagated by fox news and the former president of the United States.

At least my views aren't the same as whatever is socially acceptable to say on twitter and reddit.

The V I C wrote:Why? Are you scared of the vaccine?

Nope.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:28 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Relden wrote:No, the idea of chasing people around and shooting a dart gun at them is quite funny on its own.

It's not funny when the darts are loaded with a vaccine.

Are you seriously scared of a vaccine? Jesus you’re not very macho if your scared of a little vaccine


Paleocons are scared of a lot of things.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:29 am

Relden wrote:
The V I C wrote:despite most of your beliefs being propagated by fox news and the former president of the United States.

At least my views aren't the same as whatever is socially acceptable to say on twitter and reddit.

The V I C wrote:Why? Are you scared of the vaccine?

Nope.


None of what you said thus far is grounded in reality.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:29 am

North Washington Republic wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Are you seriously scared of a vaccine? Jesus you’re not very macho if your scared of a little vaccine


Paleocons are scared of a lot of things.

Whooooo!!!! I’m a scary black man! I’m coming to give you and vaccine!! Booooo!
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Postby The V I C » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:30 am

Relden wrote:
The V I C wrote:despite most of your beliefs being propagated by fox news and the former president of the United States.

At least my views aren't the same as whatever is socially acceptable to say on twitter and reddit.

The V I C wrote:Why? Are you scared of the vaccine?

Nope.


You mean like normal views based in the reality of the situation? Correct, your views are not the same, because they're ridiculous. Theyd be funny if they weren't causing deaths. Also you are scared of the vaccine. I think you made that clear when you responded to that post about nerf vaccination.
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Postby The V I C » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:31 am

Thermodolia wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
Paleocons are scared of a lot of things.

Whooooo!!!! I’m a scary black man! I’m coming to give you and vaccine!! Booooo!


Stop it therm. You're scaring him.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:32 am

Thermodolia wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
Paleocons are scared of a lot of things.

Whooooo!!!! I’m a scary black man! I’m coming to give you and vaccine!! Booooo!


The strangest thing is that getting the vaccine is for the common good. It’s good for the person, their community and their nation’s overall health. Paleocons should be lining up to get the vaccine.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:32 am

Relden wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I thought that you right wing types were all about jokes not being serious.

It depends on the joke, but this guy definitely wasn't joking.

The jokes he was telling weren't jokes.

Thermodolia is a massive authoritarian, that's his approach to everything.

I don't think it was him. It was some other guy.

You people need to get over this whole thing where you do the opposite of what someone says if they're smug.
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Postby Relden » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:32 am

Thermodolia wrote:Are you seriously scared of a vaccine? Jesus you’re not very macho if your scared of a little vaccine

No, I just don't want it at all.

I could say the exact same for people who desperately rushed to get the vaccine for a disease with generally mild symptoms and an extremely high survival rate.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:34 am

Relden wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Are you seriously scared of a vaccine? Jesus you’re not very macho if your scared of a little vaccine

No, I just don't want it at all.

I could say the exact same for people who desperately rushed to get the vaccine for a disease with generally mild symptoms and an extremely high survival rate.


Don’t mind me, but I’m going to trust the word of scientists with world class laboratories over quacks and people with no medical training whatsoever.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:34 am

Relden wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Are you seriously scared of a vaccine? Jesus you’re not very macho if your scared of a little vaccine

No, I just don't want it at all.

I could say the exact same for people who desperately rushed to get the vaccine for a disease with generally mild symptoms and an extremely high survival rate.


Why? What is your rationale along with your reason for believing in nonsense like genocidal homicide?

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Postby The V I C » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:34 am

Relden wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Are you seriously scared of a vaccine? Jesus you’re not very macho if your scared of a little vaccine

No, I just don't want it at all.

I could say the exact same for people who desperately rushed to get the vaccine for a disease with generally mild symptoms and an extremely high survival rate.


Once again I see you don't understand what mild means. Also for a disease with a "high survival rate" there sure seems to be a lot of people who made the same claim and later were killed by covid. Its almost like the survival rate varies depending on how overcrowded the hospital is.
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Postby Relden » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:36 am

North Washington Republic wrote:Don’t mind me, but I’m going to trust the word of scientists with world class laboratories over quacks and people with no medical training whatsoever.

I'm just going off of the statistics that are the word of these same scientists.

I judge that, based off of the statistics, I don't need the vaccine.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:36 am

The V I C wrote:
Relden wrote:No, I just don't want it at all.

I could say the exact same for people who desperately rushed to get the vaccine for a disease with generally mild symptoms and an extremely high survival rate.


Once again I see you don't understand what mild means. Also for a disease with a "high survival rate" there sure seems to be a lot of people who made the same claim and later were killed by covid. Its almost like the survival rate varies depending on how overcrowded the hospital is.


A LOT of right-wing anti-vax radio personalities have died from COVID.
I’m a Wesleyan Christian center-left American Patriot. 29 year-old male and I live in Minneapolis, Minnesota
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:36 am

North Washington Republic wrote:
The V I C wrote:
Once again I see you don't understand what mild means. Also for a disease with a "high survival rate" there sure seems to be a lot of people who made the same claim and later were killed by covid. Its almost like the survival rate varies depending on how overcrowded the hospital is.


A LOT of right-wing anti-vax radio personalities have died from COVID.

The true believers die of covid, the grifters got vaccinated on the sly.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:38 am

Ifreann wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
A LOT of right-wing anti-vax radio personalities have died from COVID.

The true believers die of covid, the grifters got vaccinated on the sly.


If they get triggered when someone asks them if they vaccinated, you know their grifters. The true believers won’t get triggered and proudly say they’re unvaxxed.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:41 am

Relden wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Are you seriously scared of a vaccine? Jesus you’re not very macho if your scared of a little vaccine

No, I just don't want it at all.

I could say the exact same for people who desperately rushed to get the vaccine for a disease with generally mild symptoms and an extremely high survival rate.

For me it wasn’t because of the symptoms but the possibility of complications. I am pretty active dude, I don’t want to have heart and lung problems. I also want to have a family so ED and infertility isn’t something I want.

So yes I know I could be mild but the possibility of complications is too fucking high for me
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Postby Relden » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:43 am

Thermodolia wrote:For me it wasn’t because of the symptoms but the possibility of complications. I am pretty active dude, I don’t want to have heart and lung problems. I also want to have a family so ED and infertility isn’t something I want.

I'm very active too. My job is very demanding, and I go to the gym every day anyway.

But the prospect of complications don't worry me, because the statistics are on my side.

The only thing that would make me consider getting the vaccine is if I was routinely around elderly people, or if I were already unhealthy.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:43 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Relden wrote:No, I just don't want it at all.

I could say the exact same for people who desperately rushed to get the vaccine for a disease with generally mild symptoms and an extremely high survival rate.

For me it wasn’t because of the symptoms but the possibility of complications. I am pretty active dude, I don’t want to have heart and lung problems. I also want to have a family so ED and infertility isn’t something I want.

So yes I know I could be mild but the possibility of complications is too fucking high for me

It doesn't matter. It's to "own" his political opposition, so he is willing to put even himself in danger.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:43 am

Relden wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:For me it wasn’t because of the symptoms but the possibility of complications. I am pretty active dude, I don’t want to have heart and lung problems. I also want to have a family so ED and infertility isn’t something I want.

I'm very active too. My job is very demanding, and I go to the gym every day anyway.

But the prospect of complications don't worry me, because the statistics are on my side.

The only thing that would make me consider getting the vaccine is if I was routinely around elderly people, or if I were already unhealthy.


The statistics you keep quoting wihtout citation.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:46 am

Relden wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:For me it wasn’t because of the symptoms but the possibility of complications. I am pretty active dude, I don’t want to have heart and lung problems. I also want to have a family so ED and infertility isn’t something I want.

I'm very active too. My job is very demanding, and I go to the gym every day anyway.

But the prospect of complications don't worry me, because the statistics are on my side.

The only thing that would make me consider getting the vaccine is if I was routinely around elderly people, or if I were already unhealthy.

No statistics aren’t on your side. The complications happen to anyone. I know a guy who’s younger than me and an athlete. He got covid and now has heart problems.

The complications don’t care if your young or old
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:48 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Relden wrote:I'm very active too. My job is very demanding, and I go to the gym every day anyway.

But the prospect of complications don't worry me, because the statistics are on my side.

The only thing that would make me consider getting the vaccine is if I was routinely around elderly people, or if I were already unhealthy.

No statistics aren’t on your side. The complications happen to anyone. I know a guy who’s younger than me and an athlete. He got covid and now has heart problems.

The complications don’t care if your young or old


But that's what these people do. Hide behind the "1% fatality rate" as though you're guaranteed to completely recover if you're not killed by it.
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Postby Relden » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:49 am

Thermodolia wrote:No statistics aren’t on your side. The complications happen to anyone. I know a guy who’s younger than me and an athlete. He got covid and now has heart problems.

The complications don’t care if your young or old

Yeah, that may be.

But you're more likely to suffer complications if you're older, rather than younger.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:49 am

North Washington Republic wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The true believers die of covid, the grifters got vaccinated on the sly.


If they get triggered when someone asks them if they vaccinated, you know their grifters. The true believers won’t get triggered and proudly say they’re unvaxxed.

Way back in primary school I remember being told that the Black Death lead to a crisis of corruption in the Catholic Church. What supposedly happened was that all the good priests went to minister to the sick and dying and of course got the plague and died, leaving only the bad priests, who became bad bishops and bad cardinals and bad popes and ultimately caused the Reformation. I don't know how historically accurate this is, but it made logical sense.

So I wonder if the modern plague will lead to a crisis in conservatism, as the "good" conservatives die of covid to own the libs, leaving nothing but vaccinated grifters who want nothing from this political movement but to line their own pockets. Won't be long now before Crowder and Reuben and Shapiro are the venerable elder "statesmen" of the American right.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:50 am

Relden wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No statistics aren’t on your side. The complications happen to anyone. I know a guy who’s younger than me and an athlete. He got covid and now has heart problems.

The complications don’t care if your young or old

Yeah, that may be.

But you're more likely to suffer complications if you're older, rather than younger.


Show us the statistics that prove that. If you even can.
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