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Who do you think will win the Virginia Gubernatorial Race?

Terry McAuliffe(D)
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Glenn Youngkin(R)
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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:09 am

Gravlen wrote:There's always money in the banana stand

131 Federal Judges Broke the Law by Hearing Cases Where They Had a Financial Interest

More than 130 federal judges have violated U.S. law and judicial ethics by overseeing court cases involving companies in which they or their family owned stock.

A Wall Street Journal investigation found that judges have improperly failed to disqualify themselves from 685 court cases around the nation since 2010. The jurists were appointed by nearly every president from Lyndon Johnson to Donald Trump.

About two-thirds of federal district judges disclosed holdings of individual stocks, and nearly one of every five who did heard at least one case involving those stocks.

Alerted to the violations by the Journal, 56 of the judges have directed court clerks to notify parties in 329 lawsuits that they should have recused themselves. That means new judges might be assigned, potentially upending rulings.

When judges participated in such cases, about two-thirds of their rulings on motions that were contested came down in favor of their or their family’s financial interests.

In New York, Judge Edgardo Ramos handled a suit between an Exxon Mobil Corp. unit and TIG Insurance Co. over a pollution claim while owning between $15,001 and $50,000 of Exxon stock, according to his financial disclosure form. He accepted an arbitration panel’s opinion that TIG should pay Exxon $25 million and added $8 million of interest to the tab.

In Colorado, Judge Lewis Babcock oversaw a case involving a Comcast Corp. subsidiary, ruling in its favor, while he or his family held between $15,001 and $50,000 of Comcast stock.

At an Ohio-based appeals court, Judge Julia Smith Gibbons wrote an opinion that favored Ford Motor Co. in a trademark dispute while her husband held stock in the auto maker. After she and the others on the three-judge appellate panel heard arguments but before they ruled, her husband’s financial adviser bought two chunks of Ford stock, each valued at up to $15,000, for his retirement account, according to her disclosure form.


Don't worry though, there will be zero repercussions for any of the judges, who're all appointed for life.


Unless we add term limits to them.

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Postby Eahland » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:11 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Gravlen wrote:Don't worry though, there will be zero repercussions for any of the judges, who're all appointed for life.


Unless we add term limits to them.

Lifetime terms have a pretty intrinsic term limit. You only live once.
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Postby Kilobugya » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:12 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:Unless we add term limits to them.


How would term limits change anything ? The honest judges will have the same term limits than the corrupt ones, so corruption/conflict of interests will not have any more repercussion. If anything it would make things worse, since they would not have their position for life, they would actually have even more incentive to rule in favor of the powerful so they'll more easily find new jobs after wards.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:15 am

Maricarland wrote:Who else thinks that DoorDash should be nationalized and put under the control of the United States Postal Service?

This way we don't have a middle man trying to make profit off of customers, businesses, and drivers. Customers and businesses can be assured that prices are not inflated by Door Dash keeping prices relatively lower and competitive, and drivers can be assured a decent pay (and since most people can sign up to be drivers, this could even serve as a semi, partial, or pseudo job guarantee, since we apparently are unwilling to establish a true job guarantee). We could also use this service as a way to provide healthy meals to people whom are elderly or disabled, or groceries for people in general during lockdowns due to pandemics or other emergencies.


I've never used their service, now that I think of it. I've solely used Uber Eats... and for grocery delivery, the market I go to has their own courier service for that. Using a service like DoorDash for grocery delivery in the event of an emergency doesn't sound bad at all. Maybe they can sub-contract with a government entity, like the USPS indeed.
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Postby Dylar » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:19 am

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:24 am

The ivory-billed woodpecker, Campephilus principalis, also known as Log Cock, Log God, Indian Hen, Kent, Kate, Poule de Bois, Tit-ka, and Holy Grail Bird, has been officially declared extinct. Rumours of sightings in southern states have lead to many surprising literal wild goose chases, but the Fish and Wildlife Service have finally given up any hope of finding these woodpeckers, along with 22 other species. Only 11 other species have ever been removed from America's endangered list due to extinction. The other extinct species are various birds, fish, and some molluscs:
Bachman's warbler
Bridled white-eye
Kauai akialoa
Kauai nukupuu
Kaua'I 'o'o
Large Kauai thrush
Maui akepa
Maui nukupu'u
Molokai creeper
Po'ouli
Little Mariana fruit bat
Southern acornshell
Stirrupshell
Tubercled-blossom pearly mussel
Turgid-blossom pearly mussel
Upland combshell
Yellow-blossom pearly mussel
Flat pigtoe
Green-blossom pearly mussel
San Marcos gambusia
Scioto madtom
Phyllostegia glabra var. lanaiensis


Tiresome though it may be to hear about "Grandpa, what were birds? What were fish?", we kind of are killing the world. Seems like a problem.

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:27 am

Ifreann wrote:The ivory-billed woodpecker, Campephilus principalis, also known as Log Cock, Log God, Indian Hen, Kent, Kate, Poule de Bois, Tit-ka, and Holy Grail Bird, has been officially declared extinct. Rumours of sightings in southern states have lead to many surprising literal wild goose chases, but the Fish and Wildlife Service have finally given up any hope of finding these woodpeckers, along with 22 other species. Only 11 other species have ever been removed from America's endangered list due to extinction. The other extinct species are various birds, fish, and some molluscs:
Bachman's warbler
Bridled white-eye
Kauai akialoa
Kauai nukupuu
Kaua'I 'o'o
Large Kauai thrush
Maui akepa
Maui nukupu'u
Molokai creeper
Po'ouli
Little Mariana fruit bat
Southern acornshell
Stirrupshell
Tubercled-blossom pearly mussel
Turgid-blossom pearly mussel
Upland combshell
Yellow-blossom pearly mussel
Flat pigtoe
Green-blossom pearly mussel
San Marcos gambusia
Scioto madtom
Phyllostegia glabra var. lanaiensis


Tiresome though it may be to hear about "Grandpa, what were birds? What were fish?", we kind of are killing the world. Seems like a problem.


We need to put an end to all deforestation, dumping and all pollution and overfishing ASAP Consequences be dammed.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:38 am

Kilobugya wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:Unless we add term limits to them.


How would term limits change anything ? The honest judges will have the same term limits than the corrupt ones, so corruption/conflict of interests will not have any more repercussion. If anything it would make things worse, since they would not have their position for life, they would actually have even more incentive to rule in favor of the powerful so they'll more easily find new jobs after wards.


Better than an life time of corruption. 10 or even 18 years is better than a lifetime.

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Postby Kilobugya » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:53 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Kilobugya wrote:
How would term limits change anything ? The honest judges will have the same term limits than the corrupt ones, so corruption/conflict of interests will not have any more repercussion. If anything it would make things worse, since they would not have their position for life, they would actually have even more incentive to rule in favor of the powerful so they'll more easily find new jobs after wards.


Better than an life time of corruption. 10 or even 18 years is better than a lifetime.


You'll get more judges in total, with the same (or even higher, due to the reason I explained) ratio of corruption, so you'll get as many (or more) corrupt judges serving at any time. It really doesn't change anything at all, there is no reason to believe the judges that will replace the ones term-limited will be less corrupt.

The only good thing term limits in judges could bring is less "inertia", less "out of phase with the values of modern people" but it won't change anything about corruption.
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Postby Rusozak » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:53 am

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The ivory-billed woodpecker, Campephilus principalis, also known as Log Cock, Log God, Indian Hen, Kent, Kate, Poule de Bois, Tit-ka, and Holy Grail Bird, has been officially declared extinct. Rumours of sightings in southern states have lead to many surprising literal wild goose chases, but the Fish and Wildlife Service have finally given up any hope of finding these woodpeckers, along with 22 other species. Only 11 other species have ever been removed from America's endangered list due to extinction. The other extinct species are various birds, fish, and some molluscs:
Bachman's warbler
Bridled white-eye
Kauai akialoa
Kauai nukupuu
Kaua'I 'o'o
Large Kauai thrush
Maui akepa
Maui nukupu'u
Molokai creeper
Po'ouli
Little Mariana fruit bat
Southern acornshell
Stirrupshell
Tubercled-blossom pearly mussel
Turgid-blossom pearly mussel
Upland combshell
Yellow-blossom pearly mussel
Flat pigtoe
Green-blossom pearly mussel
San Marcos gambusia
Scioto madtom
Phyllostegia glabra var. lanaiensis


Tiresome though it may be to hear about "Grandpa, what were birds? What were fish?", we kind of are killing the world. Seems like a problem.


We need to put an end to all deforestation, dumping and all pollution and overfishing ASAP Consequences be dammed.


But what about all the lumberjacks, waste disposal workers, and fishermen?
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:56 am

Rusozak wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
We need to put an end to all deforestation, dumping and all pollution and overfishing ASAP Consequences be dammed.


But what about all the lumberjacks, waste disposal workers, and fishermen?

I meant dumping waste into the ocean and into the environment.

We can also do sustainable logging.

I’d rather we stop fishing for a little while then have no fish at all.

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Postby Kowani » Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:03 am

Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Postby Senkaku » Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:05 am


mhmm

Rusozak wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
We need to put an end to all deforestation, dumping and all pollution and overfishing ASAP Consequences be dammed.


But what about all the lumberjacks, waste disposal workers, and fishermen?

Lumberjacks and fishermen rely on the survival of forests and fisheries, and any “waste disposal worker” who’s reliant on illegal dumping may have a certain family connection worth investigating lol
agreed honey. send bees

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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:50 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:Fact: There are millions of American Patriot Citizens of the USA with Pride and Honor. who strongly agree with me, they are not imaginary Persons as a certain leftist posted too me and a few certain Persons agreed with him on. They are real Persons, American Patriot Citizens of the USA, with Pride and Honor. I strongly respect your Freedom of Speech and Democratic Rights to strongly disagree with me and us. I don't tell any Persons I am right and they are wrong on any issues, world leaders and VIPs. I just strongly and respectfully agree or disagree with them. Peace over and out. GMS.


And again. Nobody can explain MAGA nor can they even list out five great things he has done. The funny thing. There have been Presidents in the past people did not like and yet they can point out good if not great things they have done.

So again a simple test. List out five great things he has done.

I could name 1 if I was conservative, and that would be conservative judges.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:56 am

Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Postby Corrian » Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:00 am


Well fuck Schumer then.

Doesn't matter. Progressives won't let it pass in the House without both, and the 3.5 trillion. So good luck with that.

So annoying that one stupid man can ruin progress for 300 million people.
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Postby Corrian » Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:04 am

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Postby Kowani » Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:10 am

Corrian wrote:

Well fuck Schumer then.

Doesn't matter. Progressives won't let it pass in the House without both, and the 3.5 trillion. So good luck with that.

So annoying that one stupid man can ruin progress for 300 million people.

today's prediction: CR passes senate/house, BIF fails, Biden's agenda tanks
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:11 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:Fact: There are millions of American Patriot Citizens of the USA with Pride and Honor. who strongly agree with me, they are not imaginary Persons as a certain leftist posted too me and a few certain Persons agreed with him on. They are real Persons, American Patriot Citizens of the USA, with Pride and Honor. I strongly respect your Freedom of Speech and Democratic Rights to strongly disagree with me and us. I don't tell any Persons I am right and they are wrong on any issues, world leaders and VIPs. I just strongly and respectfully agree or disagree with them. Peace over and out. GMS.


And again. Nobody can explain MAGA


I actually enjoy the doublethink of people both saying "maga" and "if you do not like it here, leave".
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Postby Kowani » Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:15 am

Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:40 am

Neutraligon wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
And again. Nobody can explain MAGA nor can they even list out five great things he has done. The funny thing. There have been Presidents in the past people did not like and yet they can point out good if not great things they have done.

So again a simple test. List out five great things he has done.

I could name 1 if I was conservative, and that would be conservative judges.


Shush you! :p

My only concern would be if they are qualified. Anything 45 does has to be reviewed.

SCOTUS unfortunately seems to be controlled by ideologues these days. Sure on minor things they do vote for non-conservative stances. I get the impression on the big issues; there are three votes for the conservative stance even before the arguments have begun.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:41 am

Kowani wrote:I am not DeJoyful

Americans who have been frustrated with the slow service of the U.S. Postal Service since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic probably won’t be thrilled to hear this:

The service is about to get even slower.

Starting Friday, the Postal Service will “implement new service standards for First Class Mail and Periodicals,” spokeswoman Kim Frum said in an email to USA TODAY.

The changes mean an increased time-in-transit for mail traveling long distances, such as from New York to California. Frum said that “most first class mail (61%) and periodicals (93%) will be unaffected” by the changes. Single-piece first-class mail traveling within the same region will still have a delivery time of two days.

The Postal Service defines first-class mail as “standard sized letters and flats,” Frum said. That’s different from first-class packages, which are typically used for shipping smaller, lightweight packages. Currently, first-class mail and first-class packages have the same delivery standards, but that will change beginning Friday. The changes to service standard times are part of the Postal Service's 10-year strategic plan, which was announced by Postmaster General Louis DeJoy in March. The plan has drawn heavy criticism from elected officials.

DeJoy took his position in June 2020 despite no previous Postal Service experience. The position of postmaster general is not appointed or nominated by a president but rather appointed by the independent Postal Service Board of Governors. The Postal Service has been riddled by financial problems for years, and the coronavirus pandemic has only worsened the situation.

By making this change, Frum said, “the Postal Service can entrust its ground network to deliver more First-Class Mail, which will lead to great consistency, reliability and efficiency that benefits its customers … whether it’s 300 miles or 3,000 miles, the current standard for (first-class packages) require 3-day service for any destination within the contiguous U.S. with a drive time greater than six hours. This is unattainable and forces us to rely on air transportation, yielding unreliable service. With this change, we will improve service reliability and predictability for customers while also driving efficiencies across the Postal Service network.”

Additionally, starting Oct. 3 through Dec. 26, the Postal Service will temporarily increase prices on all commercial and retail domestic packages because of the holiday season and its increase in mail volume. Those price increases will not affect international products, Frum said.



I am shocked someone installed by 45 is incompetent and probably corrupt.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:43 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
And again. Nobody can explain MAGA


I actually enjoy the doublethink of people both saying "maga" and "if you do not like it here, leave".


Indeed. Even my trumpist relatives catch themselves when they hear people saying things that goes against their…well…delusion.

They are good follows. Can’t explain it and yet will defend it on to death.

At times I wonder how many families has 45 broken up.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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