American Politics VII: Virginia Reel

[Corrian]

The Arizona Democrat party threatened Kyrsten Sinema with a No-Confidence vote if she doesn't vote to at least reform the filibuster.

[Diahon]

at least? no, fucking lockstep

[Bombadil]

Faux News is leading with the search for Brian Laundrie; the WSJ Editorial Report was all about Hunter Biden's emails (really). Outside the Trump unreality bubble folks are moving on.

That's by design. You don't want full coverage. Full coverage would reveal that not only have these been increasingly pointless, expensive, and hapazard but at best...at best they have exposed levels of petty fraud by Repbulicans like fake ballot boxes and paying a candidate to run that has the same name as your opponent. Real actual things done in the election.

You keep a thing like this on simmer and let people move on while still stewing it. The people outside partisan bubbles cease caring, but when it comes around again and they have to engage for half a second for another election that low boil is still there. A bunch of contradicting headlines are all there in the hopes that they read it as an actual controversy that has had developments when the reality is it's been one long sustained dry hump.

Also, 'blond white girl dies' is all FOX really ever want to talk about..

EDIT:.. although even I didn't expect this to be the lead story..

Dog the Bounty Hunter reveals 'hottest' area authorities need to search to find Brian Laundrie

Link

[Outer Sparta]

That's by design. You don't want full coverage. Full coverage would reveal that not only have these been increasingly pointless, expensive, and hapazard but at best...at best they have exposed levels of petty fraud by Repbulicans like fake ballot boxes and paying a candidate to run that has the same name as your opponent. Real actual things done in the election.

You keep a thing like this on simmer and let people move on while still stewing it. The people outside partisan bubbles cease caring, but when it comes around again and they have to engage for half a second for another election that low boil is still there. A bunch of contradicting headlines are all there in the hopes that they read it as an actual controversy that has had developments when the reality is it's been one long sustained dry hump.

Also, 'blond white girl dies' is all FOX really ever want to talk about..

EDIT:.. although even I didn't expect this to be the lead story..

Dog the Bounty Hunter reveals 'hottest' area authorities need to search to find Brian Laundrie

Link

Dog the Bounty Hunter? Do they have better priorities or is this how Fox will get more views because that's how all cable media and 24/7 cable news operate?

[Diahon]

yes

[Bombadil]

Also, 'blond white girl dies' is all FOX really ever want to talk about..

EDIT:.. although even I didn't expect this to be the lead story..

Dog the Bounty Hunter reveals 'hottest' area authorities need to search to find Brian Laundrie

Link

Dog the Bounty Hunter? Do they have better priorities or is this how Fox will get more views because that's how all cable media and 24/7 cable news operate?

With no sense of irony at all, the 5th story is.. Left-wing media lives up to reputation and completely leaves out major news

[Outer Sparta]

Dog the Bounty Hunter? Do they have better priorities or is this how Fox will get more views because that's how all cable media and 24/7 cable news operate?

With no sense of irony at all, the 5th story is.. Left-wing media lives up to reputation and completely leaves out major news

Now that is an astonishingly lack of self-awareness right there, but totally expected from Fox News.

[Ifreann]

we literally just had an entire summer of this

When you overturn an election and then break up those protests the unrest and demonstrations that will follow will make the Floyd protests look like nothing.

How many cops do you plan to chokeslam to get your vote back?

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"We cannot allow corporations to put profit over people."
You must be new here.

In case there was a danger of corporations putting people over profit, Marco Rubio has now introduced a bill which allows shareholders to sue the companies if they do anything of the sort.

That seems redundant. Surely corporate executives are already legally bound to provide value to shareholders. I understood that to be the basis of their employment. The shareholders hire you to be CEO to make their money line go up.

I mean, not you you. You're a penguin with a chainsaw, you can't be a CEO. You can be a general, but not a CEO.

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basic self-preservation demands, nay, pleads that he save his malevolence for the private sphere, but i guess all laws are suspended before him

The dude and his most devoted followers are mentally ill*. He hasn’t been charged for any of the bullshit he tried to pull, and thus he believes he is going get away with it.

*I say this as a person that has multiple diagnosed mental illnesses, so people can save the “you’re weaponizing mental illness”.

See, the thing about the Trump people is, they know it's a con. Only, they think they're in on the con. The way Trump fools them is by acting like he's letting them in on how he's fooling everyone else.

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The Arizona Democrat party threatened Kyrsten Sinema with a No-Confidence vote if she doesn't vote to at least reform the filibuster.

Do it

[Eahland]

The Arizona Democrat party threatened Kyrsten Sinema with a No-Confidence vote if she doesn't vote to at least reform the filibuster.

I do not get Sinema's deal. Manchin I understand. He's basically not a Democrat by any current standard, is only aligned with them for historical reasons, and actively opposes most of the Democratic agenda. And if he were actually a Democrat, he couldn't get elected in West Virginia.

But Sinema is from a purple state, and is now, to all appearances, gleefully burning down her own career in order to stymie Democratic efforts to implement things that she campaigned on. I'm seriously wondering if she's been bought off.

[Bombadil]

That seems redundant. Surely corporate executives are already legally bound to provide value to shareholders. I understood that to be the basis of their employment. The shareholders hire you to be CEO to make their money line go up.

I mean, not you you. You're a penguin with a chainsaw, you can't be a CEO. You can be a general, but not a CEO.

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Next up, Marco Rubio wants to sue horses that don’t win when he bet on them.

[Forsher]

The Arizona Democrat party threatened Kyrsten Sinema with a No-Confidence vote if she doesn't vote to at least reform the filibuster.

What does this mean, though? If they did it and no confidence won?

[Galloism]

The Arizona Democrat party threatened Kyrsten Sinema with a No-Confidence vote if she doesn't vote to at least reform the filibuster.

What does this mean, though? If they did it and no confidence won?

I'm pretty sure that means Palpatine gets her seat. That's how I remember it working.

[Shrillland]

The Arizona Democrat party threatened Kyrsten Sinema with a No-Confidence vote if she doesn't vote to at least reform the filibuster.

I do not get Sinema's deal. Manchin I understand. He's basically not a Democrat by any current standard, is only aligned with them for historical reasons, and actively opposes most of the Democratic agenda. And if he were actually a Democrat, he couldn't get elected in West Virginia.

But Sinema is from a purple state, and is now, to all appearances, gleefully burning down her own career in order to stymie Democratic efforts to implement things that she campaigned on. I'm seriously wondering if she's been bought off.

I don't think that's it, she wasn't quite as centrist in the House, she's just changed her views because she thinks she has to to win the more conservative Phoenix suburbs and rural voters in the north.

[Ifreann]

The Arizona Democrat party threatened Kyrsten Sinema with a No-Confidence vote if she doesn't vote to at least reform the filibuster.

I do not get Sinema's deal. Manchin I understand. He's basically not a Democrat by any current standard, is only aligned with them for historical reasons, and actively opposes most of the Democratic agenda. And if he were actually a Democrat, he couldn't get elected in West Virginia.

But Sinema is from a purple state, and is now, to all appearances, gleefully burning down her own career in order to stymie Democratic efforts to implement things that she campaigned on. I'm seriously wondering if she's been bought off.

When Sinema went to make that big show of voting against a minimum wage increase, she first tried to get Mitch McConnell's attention. Like, she was tapping him on the shoulder walking by like "Hey Mitch, watch me, watch me". I'd consider it possible that she's planning to full on jump ship. Waiting for a good moment to craft the perfect "The Democrats got too woke so I changed all my social and economic beliefs" narrative.

[Corrian]

The Arizona Democrat party threatened Kyrsten Sinema with a No-Confidence vote if she doesn't vote to at least reform the filibuster.

I do not get Sinema's deal. Manchin I understand. He's basically not a Democrat by any current standard, is only aligned with them for historical reasons, and actively opposes most of the Democratic agenda. And if he were actually a Democrat, he couldn't get elected in West Virginia.

But Sinema is from a purple state, and is now, to all appearances, gleefully burning down her own career in order to stymie Democratic efforts to implement things that she campaigned on. I'm seriously wondering if she's been bought off.

She's had some oil and pharmaceutical money thrown her way.

[Shrillland]

The Arizona Democrat party threatened Kyrsten Sinema with a No-Confidence vote if she doesn't vote to at least reform the filibuster.

What does this mean, though? If they did it and no confidence won?

Nothing whatsoever. Sinema's still in until '24, and I don't see their memories lasting long enough to try to primary her out.

[Corrian]

I do not get Sinema's deal. Manchin I understand. He's basically not a Democrat by any current standard, is only aligned with them for historical reasons, and actively opposes most of the Democratic agenda. And if he were actually a Democrat, he couldn't get elected in West Virginia.

But Sinema is from a purple state, and is now, to all appearances, gleefully burning down her own career in order to stymie Democratic efforts to implement things that she campaigned on. I'm seriously wondering if she's been bought off.

I don't think that's it, she wasn't quite as centrist in the House, she's just changed her views because she thinks she has to to win the more conservative Phoenix suburbs and rural voters in the north.

When all she is doing is alienating everyone.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

I don't think that's it, she wasn't quite as centrist in the House, she's just changed her views because she thinks she has to to win the more conservative Phoenix suburbs and rural voters in the north.

When all she is doing is alienating everyone.

If she changed her views for political reasons, personal reasons or both, she is alienating those who supported her and might get support from those who opposed her.

[Eahland]

I do not get Sinema's deal. Manchin I understand. He's basically not a Democrat by any current standard, is only aligned with them for historical reasons, and actively opposes most of the Democratic agenda. And if he were actually a Democrat, he couldn't get elected in West Virginia.

But Sinema is from a purple state, and is now, to all appearances, gleefully burning down her own career in order to stymie Democratic efforts to implement things that she campaigned on. I'm seriously wondering if she's been bought off.

I don't think that's it, she wasn't quite as centrist in the House, she's just changed her views because she thinks she has to to win the more conservative Phoenix suburbs and rural voters in the north.

It doesn't help if she alienates everyone who voted for her in the first place.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

trump
he just
he admitted to everything
he's complaining about not getting what he wants
out
fucking
loud

lol, Trump did not admit to anything. I watched the Trump Georgia Rally live on Newsmax. I now have this awesome link for my post records.
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1441919 ... 96450?s=20
Republican President Trump of the USA for emphasis.

[Dresderstan]

What does this mean, though? If they did it and no confidence won?

Nothing whatsoever. Sinema's still in until '24, and I don't see their memories lasting long enough to try to primary her out.

So nothing, no special election, no removal from the party AKA forced so sit as an independent no nothing, so what is the fucking point?

[Ngelmish]

I do not get Sinema's deal. Manchin I understand. He's basically not a Democrat by any current standard, is only aligned with them for historical reasons, and actively opposes most of the Democratic agenda. And if he were actually a Democrat, he couldn't get elected in West Virginia.

But Sinema is from a purple state, and is now, to all appearances, gleefully burning down her own career in order to stymie Democratic efforts to implement things that she campaigned on. I'm seriously wondering if she's been bought off.

I don't think that's it, she wasn't quite as centrist in the House, she's just changed her views because she thinks she has to to win the more conservative Phoenix suburbs and rural voters in the north.

That, or her experience in the minority, most of her elected career, has led her to conclude that she's uniquely brilliant at cutting deals with Republicans and now she's just cosplaying as the one indispensable senator in the room. Ego is often an accurate explanation for why otherwise talented politicos act bafflingly inept at politics.

[Lord Dominator]

Nothing whatsoever. Sinema's still in until '24, and I don't see their memories lasting long enough to try to primary her out.

So nothing, no special election, no removal from the party AKA forced so sit as an independent no nothing, so what is the fucking point?

Expressing disapproval in a manner designed to catch attention

[San Lumen]

Nothing whatsoever. Sinema's still in until '24, and I don't see their memories lasting long enough to try to primary her out.

So nothing, no special election, no removal from the party AKA forced so sit as an independent no nothing, so what is the fucking point?

You can’t force an election before the term is up and kicking her out of the party means McConnell gets the majority leader position and nothing gets done.

[Shrillland]

So nothing, no special election, no removal from the party AKA forced so sit as an independent no nothing, so what is the fucking point?

You can’t force an election before the term is up and kicking her out of the party means McConnell gets the majority leader position and nothing gets done.

It may have escaped your notice, but with Manchin and Sinema, nothing's getting done already.