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by Dresderstan » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:41 pm

by Diahon » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:41 pm
The Lone Alliance wrote:One good thing I'm seeing out of this is a lot of the Republicans are saying in response to this is "This is why we don't need Trump, we can fight without him" so arguably that's a good thing.

by The Lone Alliance » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:43 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:The Lone Alliance wrote:One good thing I'm seeing out of this is a lot of the Republicans are saying in response to this is "This is why we don't need Trump, we can fight without him" so arguably that's a good thing.
Is it? He seemed to do a tap dance to keep ahold of the trump followers.
That endorsement may have a price tag.

by Kowani » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:43 pm
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.

by Diahon » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:45 pm
The Lone Alliance wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
Is it? He seemed to do a tap dance to keep ahold of the trump followers.
That endorsement may have a price tag.
You mean the thing that had the entire media use simply as a method of attack that apparently didn't work?
That's part of the problem, I'm seeing the responses from Democrats and it's all "JAN 6 COVID DEATHS TRUMP" stuff that Youngkin has literally nothing to do with.
The Democrats are going to need to have a better strategy than screaming Trump at the top of their lungs for eternity, like delivering on promises, ultimately if Youngkin won it's because the Democrats haven't delivered and like I said before, let's hope this convinces Democrats that it's time to deliver.
If they deliver, I think the pain in the midterms will be weakened.

by Galactic Transylvania » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:45 pm
The Lone Alliance wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
Is it? He seemed to do a tap dance to keep ahold of the trump followers.
That endorsement may have a price tag.
You mean the thing that had the entire media use simply as a method of attack that apparently didn't work?
That's part of the problem, I'm seeing the responses from Democrats and it's all "JAN 6 COVID DEATHS TRUMP" stuff that Youngkin has literally nothing to do with.
The Democrats are going to need to have a better strategy than screaming Trump at the top of their lungs for eternity, like delivering on promises, ultimately if Youngkin won it's because the Democrats haven't delivered and like I said before, let's hope this convinces Democrats that it's time to deliver.
If they deliver, I think the pain in the midterms will be weakened.
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by Galactic Transylvania » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:46 pm
Diahon wrote:The Lone Alliance wrote:You mean the thing that had the entire media use simply as a method of attack that apparently didn't work?
That's part of the problem, I'm seeing the responses from Democrats and it's all "JAN 6 COVID DEATHS TRUMP" stuff that Youngkin has literally nothing to do with.
The Democrats are going to need to have a better strategy than screaming Trump at the top of their lungs for eternity, like delivering on promises, ultimately if Youngkin won it's because the Democrats haven't delivered and like I said before, let's hope this convinces Democrats that it's time to deliver.
If they deliver, I think the pain in the midterms will be weakened.
youngkin and his ilk have everything to do with that shit, they're fucking republicans
the blood trump spilt is all in their fucking heads
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by Arlenton » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:46 pm
Diahon wrote:The Lone Alliance wrote:You mean the thing that had the entire media use simply as a method of attack that apparently didn't work?
That's part of the problem, I'm seeing the responses from Democrats and it's all "JAN 6 COVID DEATHS TRUMP" stuff that Youngkin has literally nothing to do with.
The Democrats are going to need to have a better strategy than screaming Trump at the top of their lungs for eternity, like delivering on promises, ultimately if Youngkin won it's because the Democrats haven't delivered and like I said before, let's hope this convinces Democrats that it's time to deliver.
If they deliver, I think the pain in the midterms will be weakened.
youngkin and his ilk have everything to do with that shit, they're fucking republicans
the blood trump spilt is all in their fucking heads

by Diahon » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:46 pm
Galactic Transylvania wrote:The Lone Alliance wrote:You mean the thing that had the entire media use simply as a method of attack that apparently didn't work?
That's part of the problem, I'm seeing the responses from Democrats and it's all "JAN 6 COVID DEATHS TRUMP" stuff that Youngkin has literally nothing to do with.
The Democrats are going to need to have a better strategy than screaming Trump at the top of their lungs for eternity, like delivering on promises, ultimately if Youngkin won it's because the Democrats haven't delivered and like I said before, let's hope this convinces Democrats that it's time to deliver.
If they deliver, I think the pain in the midterms will be weakened.
This is the big takeaway.
The messaging against Trump worked because he's Trump.
Throwing that messaging against candidates that are not Trump, do not look or act like Trump, and are not indelibly tied at the hip to Trump is not going to make for a functional campaign.

by Dresderstan » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:47 pm
Diahon wrote:Galactic Transylvania wrote:
This is the big takeaway.
The messaging against Trump worked because he's Trump.
Throwing that messaging against candidates that are not Trump, do not look or act like Trump, and are not indelibly tied at the hip to Trump is not going to make for a functional campaign.
bullshit
they'll trump the fuck away as soon as they gain power

by Kowani » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:48 pm
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.

by Dresderstan » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:51 pm

by Kowani » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:53 pm
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.

by Comerciante » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:53 pm
Arlenton wrote:Guess voters just don't care. We can literally attempt a coup, have people die in the process, then go on to win in a state that Biden won by 10%. Really doesn't seem to be much of a penalty.

by Arlenton » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:55 pm
Comerciante wrote:Arlenton wrote:Guess voters just don't care. We can literally attempt a coup, have people die in the process, then go on to win in a state that Biden won by 10%. Really doesn't seem to be much of a penalty.
If political violence bears no real consequences...
Then I guess we just wait for parties to start forming private "security" groups and the like.

by Dresderstan » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:55 pm

by Diahon » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:57 pm
Comerciante wrote:Arlenton wrote:Guess voters just don't care. We can literally attempt a coup, have people die in the process, then go on to win in a state that Biden won by 10%. Really doesn't seem to be much of a penalty.
If political violence bears no real consequences...
Then I guess we just wait for parties to start forming private "security" groups and the like.

by The Two Jerseys » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:57 pm
Dresderstan wrote:Shrillland wrote:Well, a lot more votes just came in, and Essex and Camden Counties still have some more votes in, but I'm not convinced it's enough...so I have to call it.
Jack Ciattarelli is elected NJ Governor.
Unless all those absentee votes somehow go the other way, I just don't see any other outcome.
Yeah and Salem county counted all their votes already... 64-35 to Ciattarelli, that shocks me, like legit shocks me.

by Dresderstan » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:58 pm

by Picairn » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:58 pm
Comerciante wrote:If political violence bears no real consequences...
Then I guess we just wait for parties to start forming private "security" groups and the like.

by Arlenton » Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:01 pm
Diahon wrote:Comerciante wrote:If political violence bears no real consequences...
Then I guess we just wait for parties to start forming private "security" groups and the like.
or one can be proactive (in the "you could've done this as soon as january 20" sort) and uproot the gop, root and branch, leaving no elected or appointed official behind

by The Lone Alliance » Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:02 pm

by North Washington Republic » Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:04 pm
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