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Who do you think will win the Virginia Gubernatorial Race?

Terry McAuliffe(D)
57
57%
Glenn Youngkin(R)
43
43%
 
Total votes : 100

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Picairn
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Postby Picairn » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:07 pm

San Lumen wrote:Never saw it. Fine then I’ll go to Canada with you.

Might as well buy some land in the far north in anticipation of climate change, while you're there.
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San Lumen
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:08 pm

Picairn wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Never saw it. Fine then I’ll go to Canada with you.

Might as well buy some land in the far north in anticipation of climate change, while you're there.


Why not?

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Kowani
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:09 pm

Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




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San Lumen
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:09 pm

Shrillland wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Never saw it. Fine then I’ll go to Canada with you.


You are most fortunate. I've only seen some of the online reviews....and that was enough. You don't have to refuse Britain just because I don't think it's worth moving to. Maybe all their Brexit-related problems will disappear and the UK won't break up in 10 years....

At this point I consider the UK better than the US. If I could move to London I would.

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Kowani
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:18 pm

Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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The Lone Alliance
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Founded: May 25, 2005
Left-Leaning College State

Postby The Lone Alliance » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:20 pm

Corrian wrote:
Kowani wrote:going to note for everyone who wants to blame this just on mcauliffee being hot garbage: it's not just him
the national environment is very, very bad for dems rn

i'll fold that into my post mortem later ig when we get all the data in but the way the HoD went-and some of the state legislators in NJ, plus the demographic flip means that the campaign is only part of the problem


oh, the preview: we're fucked, again

Woooohooooo I want off this train.

One troubling thing I'm noticing is reports that several minority majority districts in the country also flipped Red, which according to the narrative that was generated against the Republicans, shouldn't be happening.
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Dresderstan
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Ex-Nation

Postby Dresderstan » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:21 pm


I'm hearing it has in fact flipped and is 51-49 to the GOP
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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:24 pm

Dresderstan wrote:

I'm hearing it has in fact flipped and is 51-49 to the GOP

it has, yes
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Immortan Khan
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Ex-Nation

Postby Immortan Khan » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:25 pm

Canada should seriously consider barring American immigrants.
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The Black Forrest
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:25 pm



So?…..this guy won because he promised to ban CRT even though it was not taught in their schools?

What is this guy going to accomplish?
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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The Alma Mater
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:26 pm

So how are the people waiting for JFK Jr doing?
And why did noone think to dress up as him with a reptilian mask?
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The Black Forrest
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:27 pm

Immortan Khan wrote:Canada should seriously consider barring American immigrants.


What about refugees?
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Kowani
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Founded: Apr 01, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:28 pm

Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Immortan Khan
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Founded: Mar 17, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Immortan Khan » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:29 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Immortan Khan wrote:Canada should seriously consider barring American immigrants.


What about refugees?

America isn't a failed state.
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Dresderstan
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Ex-Nation

Postby Dresderstan » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:29 pm

23 year old, PA male. Love sports like baseball, hockey and American football, enjoy video games and TV. Music chart nerd, can't live without it. I'm gay. Fuck neo-liberalism

Biden and Trump are traitors to America.
Imagine being shocked about the fact of greed, corruption, and abuse of power in government.
The media is a propaganda tool fueling the two parties hyperpartisanship and killing the country, it's time to end the "freedom of the press"
Violence against the government is and should be accepted by the people, especially when said government wants to and is actively stripping away your constitutional rights.
Remake the Free World, wipe the slate clean, a nation born and baptized in blood and fire shall be reborn again.

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The Lone Alliance
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby The Lone Alliance » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:32 pm

One good thing I'm seeing out of this is a lot of the Republicans are saying in response to this is "This is why we don't need Trump, we can fight without him" so arguably that's a good thing.
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." -Herman Goering
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War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it; -William Tecumseh Sherman
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Kowani
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Founded: Apr 01, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:33 pm

Dresderstan wrote:

Also Kevin Brobson wins the PA Supreme Court race.

Yep, 52-47
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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The Black Forrest
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:33 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:One good thing I'm seeing out of this is a lot of the Republicans are saying in response to this is "This is why we don't need Trump, we can fight without him" so arguably that's a good thing.


Is it? He seemed to do a tap dance to keep ahold of the trump followers.

That endorsement may have a price tag.
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Shrillland
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Founded: Apr 12, 2010
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Shrillland » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:35 pm

Well, a lot more votes just came in, and Essex and Camden Counties still have some more votes in, but I'm not convinced it's enough...so I have to call it.

Jack Ciattarelli is elected NJ Governor.

Unless all those absentee votes somehow go the other way, I just don't see any other outcome.
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Dresderstan
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:36 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:One good thing I'm seeing out of this is a lot of the Republicans are saying in response to this is "This is why we don't need Trump, we can fight without him" so arguably that's a good thing.

Here's my proviso, wait until the midterms.
23 year old, PA male. Love sports like baseball, hockey and American football, enjoy video games and TV. Music chart nerd, can't live without it. I'm gay. Fuck neo-liberalism

Biden and Trump are traitors to America.
Imagine being shocked about the fact of greed, corruption, and abuse of power in government.
The media is a propaganda tool fueling the two parties hyperpartisanship and killing the country, it's time to end the "freedom of the press"
Violence against the government is and should be accepted by the people, especially when said government wants to and is actively stripping away your constitutional rights.
Remake the Free World, wipe the slate clean, a nation born and baptized in blood and fire shall be reborn again.

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Dresderstan
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Founded: Jan 18, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Dresderstan » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:37 pm

Shrillland wrote:Well, a lot more votes just came in, and Essex and Camden Counties still have some more votes in, but I'm not convinced it's enough...so I have to call it.

Jack Ciattarelli is elected NJ Governor.

Unless all those absentee votes somehow go the other way, I just don't see any other outcome.

Yeah and Salem county counted all their votes already... 64-35 to Ciattarelli, that shocks me, like legit shocks me.
23 year old, PA male. Love sports like baseball, hockey and American football, enjoy video games and TV. Music chart nerd, can't live without it. I'm gay. Fuck neo-liberalism

Biden and Trump are traitors to America.
Imagine being shocked about the fact of greed, corruption, and abuse of power in government.
The media is a propaganda tool fueling the two parties hyperpartisanship and killing the country, it's time to end the "freedom of the press"
Violence against the government is and should be accepted by the people, especially when said government wants to and is actively stripping away your constitutional rights.
Remake the Free World, wipe the slate clean, a nation born and baptized in blood and fire shall be reborn again.

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Kowani
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Founded: Apr 01, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:39 pm

Last edited by Kowani on Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:39 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Shrillland
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Founded: Apr 12, 2010
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Shrillland » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:39 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Well, a lot more votes just came in, and Essex and Camden Counties still have some more votes in, but I'm not convinced it's enough...so I have to call it.

Jack Ciattarelli is elected NJ Governor.

Unless all those absentee votes somehow go the other way, I just don't see any other outcome.

Yeah and Salem county counted all their votes already... 64-35 to Ciattarelli, that shocks me, like legit shocks me.


As to why, Zurk says it's just property taxes. Which is fair enough given how notoriously high New Jersey's property taxes are.
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Confused by the names I use for House districts? Here's a primer!
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Diahon
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Ex-Nation

Postby Diahon » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:39 pm


"we will not be told that america has been horrible! therefore, we choose death!"

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Shrillland
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:41 pm



Well, then, I'll retract my call...
How America Came to This, by Kowani: Racialised Politics, Ideological Media Gaslighting, and What It All Means For The Future
Plebiscite Plaza 2023
Confused by the names I use for House districts? Here's a primer!
In 1963, Doctor Who taught us all we need to know about politics when a cave woman said, "Old men see no further than tomorrow's meat".

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