American Politics VII: Virginia Reel

[Corrian]

Jack Citarellii says he will declare victory real soon

Isn't that a bit premature?

[Galactic Transylvania]

There definitely is.

2010 was not a good midterm for Democrats.

That being said Biden +10 to Youngkin+1.5 is a much smaller swing than Obama +6 to McDonnell +17.

Also trends are just that - trends. There's a lot of things that happened this time around in VA. We'll have to do a proper post mortem with clear heads at a later date when more data is in. Right now it could be anything from "The Democrats are all going to die in 2022" to "Terry McAuliffe ran a surprisingly bad campaign."

If anything, that's the biggest problem he had. McAuliffe ran a surprisingly bad campaign combined with his statement on parents dictating to school boards. On the other hand, Youngkin ran an equally surprisingly good campaign, managing to carefully play to both sides of the Trump fence, keeping his distance early on and slowly coming to Trumpist embraces in the closing weeks, using CRT rhetoric as his membership card and plucking away a lot of ostensibly centrist voters with nonetheless clear Culture War positions.

Yeah if anyone wants an optimistic takeaway that's it:

1. McAuliffe ran an absolutely horrible campaign and only lost by about 1.5 points.

2. Youngkin ran a surprisingly good campaign for his platform and only won by about 1.5 points.

[Galactic Transylvania]

Jack Citarellii says he will declare victory real soon

Isn't that a bit premature?

He's a republican.

See: Trump, Donald; November 3rd 2020.

[San Lumen]

Jack Citarellii says he will declare victory real soon

I guess having high approval ratings means nothing.

[Corrian]

If anything, that's the biggest problem he had. McAuliffe ran a surprisingly bad campaign combined with his statement on parents dictating to school boards, which lead to a lacklustre turnout on the Democatic side alongside the general glumness over Biden. On the other hand, Youngkin ran an equally surprisingly good campaign, managing to carefully play to both sides of the Trump fence, keeping his distance early on and slowly coming to Trumpist embraces in the closing weeks, using CRT rhetoric as his membership card and plucking away a lot of ostensibly centrist voters with nonetheless clear Culture War positions.

McAuliffe's campaign basically seemed to be "Trump bad vote for me even though we're not even running against Trump". Democrats need a better strategy.

[Dresderstan]

Jack Citarellii says he will declare victory real soon

Isn't that a bit premature?

Here's a NYT quote literally just now.

Phil Murphy, New Jersey’s Democratic governor, and his Republican challenger, Jack Ciattarelli, addressed supporters almost simultaneously early Wednesday. Both said it will take more time to count all the vote-by-mail and provisional ballots.

[San Lumen]

After tonight’s results I have little faith.

Drown your sorrows, get some rest and get up tomorrow ready to go to work again at whatever you're doing to resist Republican white supremacist authoritarianism. That's the way this works. Me, I helped keep a fascist off a city council tonite so I'm content.

Republicans swept my hometown and county. My efforts made no difference. How I miss NYC and Can’t wait to go back. I wish everywhere voted like they do but I’ll never get that wish.

[Shrillland]

If anything, that's the biggest problem he had. McAuliffe ran a surprisingly bad campaign combined with his statement on parents dictating to school boards, which lead to a lacklustre turnout on the Democatic side alongside the general glumness over Biden. On the other hand, Youngkin ran an equally surprisingly good campaign, managing to carefully play to both sides of the Trump fence, keeping his distance early on and slowly coming to Trumpist embraces in the closing weeks, using CRT rhetoric as his membership card and plucking away a lot of ostensibly centrist voters with nonetheless clear Culture War positions.

McAuliffe's campaign basically seemed to be "Trump bad vote for me even though we're not even running against Trump". Democrats need a better strategy.

True. McAuliffe's stance was, in some ways, accurate, but negativity and fear will only get you so far among voters that don't use them as part of their identity before people dismiss you as a Cassandra, even if your prophecies come out true.

[Dresderstan]

Drown your sorrows, get some rest and get up tomorrow ready to go to work again at whatever you're doing to resist Republican white supremacist authoritarianism. That's the way this works. Me, I helped keep a fascist off a city council tonite so I'm content.

Republicans swept my hometown and county. My efforts made no difference. How I miss NYC and Can’t wait to go back. I wish everywhere voted like they do but I’ll never get that wish.

You keep saying you're done with politics, surely doesn't sound like it from how much you continue to bitch whine and moan about it.

[Shrillland]

Drown your sorrows, get some rest and get up tomorrow ready to go to work again at whatever you're doing to resist Republican white supremacist authoritarianism. That's the way this works. Me, I helped keep a fascist off a city council tonite so I'm content.

Republicans swept my hometown and county. My efforts made no difference. How I miss NYC and Can’t wait to go back. I wish everywhere voted like they do but I’ll never get that wish.

Only because turnout was so low. It happens to all of us.

[San Lumen]

Republicans swept my hometown and county. My efforts made no difference. How I miss NYC and Can’t wait to go back. I wish everywhere voted like they do but I’ll never get that wish.

You keep saying you're done with politics, surely doesn't sound like it from how much you continue to bitch whine and moan about it.

I am. I’m finished working on campaigns. It’s pointless. You may very well get some of the things you’ve wished for here.

[Kowani]

going to note for everyone who wants to blame this just on mcauliffee being hot garbage: it's not just him
the national environment is very, very bad for dems rn

i'll fold that into my post mortem later ig when we get all the data in but the way the HoD went-and some of the state legislators in NJ, plus the demographic flip means that the campaign is only part of the problem


oh, the preview: we're fucked, again

[Shrillland]

going to note for everyone who wants to blame this just on mcauliffee being hot garbage: it's not just him
the national environment is very, very bad for dems rn

i'll fold that into my post mortem later ig when we get all the data in but the way the HoD went-and some of the state legislators in NJ, plus the demographic flip means that the campaign is only part of the problem


oh, the preview: we're fucked, again

Like the rest of your excellent effortposts. Got it.

[Dresderstan]

You keep saying you're done with politics, surely doesn't sound like it from how much you continue to bitch whine and moan about it.

I am. I’m finished working on campaigns. It’s pointless. You may very well get some of the things you’ve wished for here.

Then please leave.

PFFFFFF NO I FUCKING WON'T!

[Corrian]

going to note for everyone who wants to blame this just on mcauliffee being hot garbage: it's not just him
the national environment is very, very bad for dems rn

i'll fold that into my post mortem later ig when we get all the data in but the way the HoD went-and some of the state legislators in NJ, plus the demographic flip means that the campaign is only part of the problem


oh, the preview: we're fucked, again

Woooohooooo I want off this train.

[San Lumen]

going to note for everyone who wants to blame this just on mcauliffee being hot garbage: it's not just him
the national environment is very, very bad for dems rn

i'll fold that into my post mortem later ig when we get all the data in but the way the HoD went-and some of the state legislators in NJ, plus the demographic flip means that the campaign is only part of the problem


oh, the preview: we're fucked, again

If only people weren’t so gullible and fall for stupid nonsense but this is a right wing country at heart. Democratic victories are upsets at this point. There is no reason Murphy should be losing unless people lied to pollsters. 2022 will be a disaster no point denying it.

[Shrillland]

going to note for everyone who wants to blame this just on mcauliffee being hot garbage: it's not just him
the national environment is very, very bad for dems rn

i'll fold that into my post mortem later ig when we get all the data in but the way the HoD went-and some of the state legislators in NJ, plus the demographic flip means that the campaign is only part of the problem


oh, the preview: we're fucked, again

Woooohooooo I want off this train.

So do I, but I don't have the $800,000 to effectively buy Canadian permanent residency, otherwise I'd learn French and move to Quebec.

[Kowani]

And we're now getting calls for Jay Jacobs to resign as head of the NY Democrats (and also the nassau county dems)

[San Lumen]

Woooohooooo I want off this train.

So do I, but I don't have the $800,000 to effectively buy Canadian permanent residency, otherwise I'd learn French and move to Quebec.

I’d move to London if I could.

[Dresderstan]

going to note for everyone who wants to blame this just on mcauliffee being hot garbage: it's not just him
the national environment is very, very bad for dems rn

i'll fold that into my post mortem later ig when we get all the data in but the way the HoD went-and some of the state legislators in NJ, plus the demographic flip means that the campaign is only part of the problem


oh, the preview: we're fucked, again

If only people weren’t so gullible and fall for stupid nonsense but this is a right wing country at heart. Democratic victories are upsets at this point. There is no reason Murphy should be losing unless people lied to pollsters. 2022 will be a disaster no point denying it.

Okay doomer, we get it.

[Corrian]

Woooohooooo I want off this train.

So do I, but I don't have the $800,000 to effectively buy Canadian permanent residency, otherwise I'd learn French and move to Quebec.

Saaaame. Feel like a prisoner.

I'mma stop whining as well though and go watch YouTube or something.

[Shrillland]

So do I, but I don't have the $800,000 to effectively buy Canadian permanent residency, otherwise I'd learn French and move to Quebec.

I’d move to London if I could.

No thanks. Britain's a sinking ship that's also on fire, it's like Titanic 2. Both the ship and the godawful movie.

[Kowani]

going to note for everyone who wants to blame this just on mcauliffee being hot garbage: it's not just him
the national environment is very, very bad for dems rn

i'll fold that into my post mortem later ig when we get all the data in but the way the HoD went-and some of the state legislators in NJ, plus the demographic flip means that the campaign is only part of the problem


oh, the preview: we're fucked, again

as an example:NJ Senate President Steve Sweeney is narrowly trailing right now to an opponent whose entire slate spent reported spending $153 as of 11 days before the election

[San Lumen]

I’d move to London if I could.

No thanks. Britain's a sinking ship that's also on fire, it's like Titanic 2. Both the ship and the godawful movie.

Never saw it. Fine then I’ll go to Canada with you.

[Shrillland]

No thanks. Britain's a sinking ship that's also on fire, it's like Titanic 2. Both the ship and the godawful movie.

Never saw it. Fine then I’ll go to Canada with you.

You are most fortunate. I've only seen some of the online reviews....and that was enough. You don't have to refuse Britain just because I don't think it's worth moving to. Maybe all their Brexit-related problems will disappear and the UK won't break up in 10 years....