American Politics VII: Virginia Reel

[Meretica]

And when I can’t marry my boyfriend I will blame Republicans. Enjoy one party rule because there is no way Republicans certify a Democratic victory after a wave election next year.

The Supreme Court isn't overturning Obergefell vs. Hodges, and no other politician can overturn Supreme Court rulings. As per the rest of that, the Republicans had so many opportunities to do that in 2020... why didn't they?

Well... if a GOP-led Congress was to pass laws saying that citizens can now sue LGBT+ members for being themselves... the Supreme Court would just twiddle with its thumbs...

[Shrillland]

And when I can’t marry my boyfriend I will blame Republicans. Enjoy one party rule because there is no way Republicans certify a Democratic victory after a wave election next year.

The Supreme Court isn't overturning Obergefell vs. Hodges, and no other politician can overturn Supreme Court rulings. As per the rest of that, the Republicans had so many opportunities to do that in 2020... why didn't they?

The party's different, even in these last few months. They've been spending this year and a lot of next systematically purging anti-Trump officials in the party. Come '24, the state apparatai in many states will be dominated by Pro-Trumpists who will follow his instructions regardless. Hell, some of the states might have the majorities needed to do what he wanted last time and send alternate electors. And if THAT happens...January 6 will be a minor squabble by comparison.

[San Lumen]

And when I can’t marry my boyfriend I will blame Republicans. Enjoy one party rule because there is no way Republicans certify a Democratic victory after a wave election next year.

That requires a supermajority, not a simple majority

Since when?

[Existential Cats]

I didn't expect the Dems to win Virginia, but what the heck is going on in New Jersey?

[Arlenton]

And when I can’t marry my boyfriend I will blame Republicans. Enjoy one party rule because there is no way Republicans certify a Democratic victory after a wave election next year.

The Supreme Court isn't overturning Obergefell vs. Hodges, and no other politician can overturn Supreme Court rulings. As per the rest of that, the Republicans had so many opportunities to do that in 2020... why didn't they?

I never hear or see that much of Republicans complaining about same sex marriage anymore. In fact, I would say in a lot of red states it is actually supported by the majority of people, and a large chunk of actual Republicans myself included. I think that's a good thing, and I am glad that here in Texas one of the top Republicans, Speaker of the House Dade Phelan, is against using anti-gay rhetoric in elections anymore. But it's not an issue that I feel strong enough about to change my vote, regardless. And nowadays it's all about keeping trannies out of bathrooms or whatever anyway.

[San Lumen]

I didn't expect the Dems to win Virginia, but what the heck is going on in New Jersey?

The polling industry’s death kneel. They should pack it in.

[Shrillland]

I didn't expect the Dems to win Virginia, but what the heck is going on in New Jersey?

Mostly, the red counties all reported first as did a lot of today's totals. Most of the blue counties haven't got a lot of numbers in yet.

[Kowani]

Another HOD district flips R

1 more flip and chamber gets tied

[Arlenton]

And when I can’t marry my boyfriend I will blame Republicans. Enjoy one party rule because there is no way Republicans certify a Democratic victory after a wave election next year.

That requires a supermajority, not a simple majority

It requires just a plain majority on the Supreme Court tbh.

[Senkaku]

The Supreme Court isn't overturning Obergefell vs. Hodges, and no other politician can overturn Supreme Court rulings. As per the rest of that, the Republicans had so many opportunities to do that in 2020... why didn't they?

I never hear or see that much of Republicans complaining about same sex marriage anymore.

you don't see it, therefore it's not happening

But it's not an issue that I feel strong enough about to change my vote, regardless.

yeah, exactly

And nowadays it's all about keeping trannies out of bathrooms or whatever anyway.

Jesus, dude.

[Great Algerstonia]

The Supreme Court isn't overturning Obergefell vs. Hodges, and no other politician can overturn Supreme Court rulings. As per the rest of that, the Republicans had so many opportunities to do that in 2020... why didn't they?

Well... if a GOP-led Congress was to pass laws saying that citizens can now sue LGBT+ members for being themselves... the Supreme Court would just twiddle with its thumbs...

Gay rights largely ceased being a political issue in major elections after Obergefell vs. Hodges, and according to some polls I looked at, a slim majority of Republican members support gay marriage. It is not in the interests of their base to criminalize gay rights in the style of the Texas abortion law. The main thing I'd be worried about when it comes to Republicans and LGBTQ+ is trans rights, though transphobia seems to be fading away very slowly.

[Genivaria]

Young People Are Over Democrats — and Republicans — New Data Show: What That Means for 2022
New data from the California recall election suggest young voters are growing more frustrated with elected leaders. Some may be on the verge of ditching both political parties altogether.

They aren’t the numbers Democrats wanted to see heading into a vital midterm year.

New data obtained by NBCLX reveals turnout among voters aged 18-29 fell by nearly half for California’s September recall election, compared to the 2020 presidential election 10 months earlier. The share of ballots from those young adults fell to just 12% of the electorate, down from 17% last November, according to the secretary of state’s office.

And even though overall turnout for the recall election was down 28% from 2020’s presidential race, the drop-off among voters under 30 (48%) was four times higher than the drop-off among voters over 60 (12%).

It’s a warning sign, as well as a bit of a paradox, for Democrats.

Gen Z-ers, voters more likely than any other generation to support Democratic candidates, according to Pew, are also now the voters most likely to say they no longer support the job performance of President Joe Biden and other established Democrat leaders.

California’s turnout numbers, as well as recent polling, suggest Democrats may be suffering due to young progressives’ frustrations over the glacial pace of progress in fulfilling Biden campaign promises on social programs, climate change and civil rights.

While the young voter drop-off didn’t stop Newsom from surviving his recall election by a 24-point margin, Democrats trying to preserve their narrow eight-seat House majority don’t feel like they have any room for error in 2022.

“Democrats are going to face devastating consequences in the midterm elections if we do not deliver for the people,” said Rep. Mondaire Jones (D-NY), one of the youngest members of Congress at 34 years old. “Most people intuitively believe that when a party has unified control of the federal government, including majorities in both chambers of Congress, that they should be able to act swiftly, especially on the priorities that they campaigned on.”

Only 43% of Gen-Z voters approve of President Biden’s job performance, compared to 51% of Millennials, 46% of Generation X and 45% of Baby Boomers, according to an October poll from Morning Consult and Politico.

For Gen Z, that represents a nearly 20-point drop in approval from June, when 62% of adults 18-24 gave Biden the thumbs-up, compared to 59% of Millennials and 51% of both Gen X-ers and Baby Boomers. Polls ahead of the California recall election showed similar dissatisfaction among young voters for Gov. Newsom, despite him frequently being painted as too liberal by conservatives in other parts of the country.

And a recent poll from The Economist and YouGov revealed only 36% of voters under 30 said they considered President Biden “liberal,” the lowest of any age group polled. Only 24% considered him “honest and trustworthy,” also the lowest of any age group.

It may have been one of the factors that reportedly led the president to tell Congressional Democrats that “the House and Senate majorities and my presidency will be determined” by the party’s ability to end the stalemates over his bipartisan infrastructure and Build Back Better plans.

Slow progress is nothing new in Washington
Young voters are also dissatisfied with leading Democrats, such as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a San Francisco native also painted for decades by conservatives as too liberal, but who’s recently been criticized by progressives for not doing enough to forcefully pass Democratic priorities. Her approval rating among Gen-Z voters (23%) was far lower than among any other generation, according to the Morning Consult/Politico poll.

But progress has often been slow in Washington, even for presidents attempting a less ambitious agenda than President Biden.

“Some of the significant issues that we saw change in the 20th century, [like] the voting age lowered to 18, that took decades to happen,” said Abby Keisa, deputy director of the nonpartisan Center for Information and Research on Civic Learning & Engagement (CIRCLE) at Tufts University. “Part of making important structural changes towards more equitable democracy and stronger communities means staying in the fight.”

Researchers say young voter impatience shouldn’t be confused with apathy.

“[Gen Z] cares very deeply about these issues,” said Carolyn DeWitt, president and executive director of the nonpartisan advocacy group Rock the Vote. “[They’re] starting to reach this tipping point of no turning back, and they're the ones who are inheriting these messes. They want bold action on them, and they want that fast.”

But a Senate majority that needs 50 votes can only move as fast as the 50th-most-progressive member wants it to move. And in this Senate, where there are only 50 Democrats, that often makes moderate Joe Manchin (D-WV) from deep-red Appalachia the fulcrum for any spending bill.

Other legislation that proposes to change policies, such as voting rights and energy regulation bills, require 60 out of 100 Senate votes to break the infamous filibuster, a reform-busting mechanism that can be used to delay a bill indefinitely with only a 41-member minority supporting it.

A small number of moderate Democrats, much like Republicans in previous sessions, have vowed to protect the filibuster, despite increasing pressure from progressive Democrats who say it’s hurting American families, as well as democracy.

Progressives also push back against claims their party needs to protect the filibuster for the future when they may be in the minority again.

“We've got two senators on the Democratic side who are refusing to support reforms to the filibuster,” said Jones. “It is a slap in the face to young people who worked hard, who came out in unprecedented numbers to deliver majorities in Congress to Democrats, and of course, deliver the presidency to Joe Biden.”

It’s not that Biden’s resume is devoid of fulfilled progressive promises:

He brought the U.S. back into the Paris Climate Accord, as well as the World Health Organization.
He reversed a number of President Trump’s policies, including the transgender military ban.
He ended family separation policies at the border.
He rushed money out to families and small businesses with the American Rescue Plan.
It’s just that those accomplishments aren’t enough for some young progressives who believe the window is closing on a rare opportunity to pass once-in-a-generation transformational legislation.

Gen Z activated but disengaging from major parties
A Harvard Kennedy School survey earlier this year found 36% of Americans under 30 say they’re politically active, compared to just 24% immediately after President Obama’s first election in 2008.

That includes organizing on TikTok, Twitter and alongside presidential motorcades.

“Youth organizations are thinking about elections and voting as one of many strategies, not [putting] all of their hopes for significant change on one tactic for affecting ... the traditional political system.”

Keisa and DeWitt both said the shift in tactics coincides with a shift away from both the Republican and Democratic establishments and more toward specific policy priorities.

“In some of the recent research that we released ... showing that you're making progress matters a lot,” Keisa said. “The White House needs to make that argument.

“This particular White House was helped significantly by young voters in the 2020 election ... and they cannot wait every two years or four years to be speaking with young people. This has to be an ongoing conversation about issues, especially on issues ... young people are experiencing that [affect] every single day.”

The research suggests the Democrats’ threats aren’t necessarily Republican gains; the GOP is also failing to connect with young voters.

Even though a third of all voters under 30 cast ballots for former President Trump last year, CIRCLE found the Republican Party and Republican candidates were significantly less likely to try and reach out to young voters than the Democratic Party and Democratic candidates.

If there’s any constant in American politics, it’s that voters tend to have short memories. Democrats hope that fact — and the passage of the president’s Build Back Better plan — will together reengage young voters ahead of the 2022 midterms and turn unfavorable polling numbers into favorables.

https://www.lx.com/politics/young-voter ... _lx_twt_mn

[Meretica]

That requires a supermajority, not a simple majority

Since when?

It was my understanding, per Jake Tapper & 538 in January 2021, that one member of each Congressional chamber would submit a statement saying that they objected to the results of a state election and then make Congress vote on it. If a supermajority in each chamber approves, then the state election is overturned.

[Kowani]

Michelle Wu takes the Boston mayoral election

[Shrillland]

Another call to make:

Buffalo, NY Mayor: Byron Brown

[Senkaku]

Well... if a GOP-led Congress was to pass laws saying that citizens can now sue LGBT+ members for being themselves... the Supreme Court would just twiddle with its thumbs...

Gay rights largely ceased being a political issue in major elections after Obergefell vs. Hodges, and according to some polls I looked at, a slim majority of Republican members support gay marriage. It is not in the interests of their base to criminalize gay rights in the style of the Texas abortion law.

the christian right is still as anti-gay as ever, the "moderate" Republicans who've decided they're fine with it are mostly like Arlenton-- they're not gonna change their votes if the extremists see a resurgence, they've just accepted it's not worth fighting about right now

The main thing I'd be worried about when it comes to Republicans and LGBTQ+ is trans rights, though transphobia seems to be fading away.

"seems to be fading away" what are you taaaalking about

[San Lumen]

Another HOD district flips R

1 more flip and chamber gets tied

I’m officially done with politics. From now on I will consider a Democratic victory an upset.

[Corrian]

Maria McLaughlin wins Pennsylvania Supreme Court race, flipping the seat and the court to the Dems

How, the race hasn't been called and she's still losing to Brobson by 40K votes.

Huh, they deleted the tweet.

[Kowani]

Virginia House of Delegates flipped

[Ispravlennaja Tsekovija]

Another HOD district flips R

1 more flip and chamber gets tied

I’m officially done with politics. From now on I will consider a Democratic victory an upset.

jeez even i'm less dramatic and huffy than this. chill

wait sorry i wasn't fully thinking about that. actually you're on the right track you should be done with politics it's hopeless . be done with politics

[Shrillland]

Another HOD district flips R

1 more flip and chamber gets tied

I’m officially done with politics. From now on I will consider a Democratic victory an upset.

And it's officially flipped.

[Corrian]

Virginia House of Delegates flipped

Virginia House of Delegates and Virginia Senate about to be real gridlocked.

[Great Algerstonia]

Gay rights largely ceased being a political issue in major elections after Obergefell vs. Hodges, and according to some polls I looked at, a slim majority of Republican members support gay marriage. It is not in the interests of their base to criminalize gay rights in the style of the Texas abortion law.

the christian right is still as anti-gay as ever, the "moderate" Republicans who've decided they're fine with it are mostly like Arlenton-- they're not gonna change their votes if the extremists see a resurgence, they've just accepted it's not worth fighting about right now

The main thing I'd be worried about when it comes to Republicans and LGBTQ+ is trans rights, though transphobia seems to be fading away.

"seems to be fading away" what are you taaaalking about

The Christian Right as a whole has seen fading relevance when it comes to politicking for votes, simply due to the general decline of the Christian faith in the US and there simply being less people identifying as evangelicals. The rhetoric of the Christian Right has also drove more left-leaning Americans away from Christianity because of the loud voices they have. Trans Rights has seen a consistent increase in support throughout America.

[Corrian]

Also not remotely surprised young people are increasingly just...unhappy with everything. Why wouldn't they be?

[Major-Tom]

Huh. I figured VA would flip narrowly, but NJ, shit. I figured Murphy would cut it way closer than expected, but a potential loss or even a 1-2pp win in NJ after Biden won it by 16-17? Jesus.