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Who do you think will win the Virginia Gubernatorial Race?

Terry McAuliffe(D)
57
57%
Glenn Youngkin(R)
43
43%
 
Total votes : 100

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Arlenton
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:26 pm

Corrian wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Yeah, and Politico as well. If this is correct, this thing is done. And Youngkin is probably winning by a bit more than most people thought he would.

Yeah, I actually thought Youngkin was going to underperform and it was going to be literally down to 1% either way. Its not good (for Dems)

I thought McAuliffe was going to win up until yesterday. Then I was hopeful that Youngkin could nab a narrow victory, but I felt that the odds were pretty 50-50. No way did I think Youngkin was going to win by anything over like 1.5% max.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:26 pm

Corrian wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I am. I’m talking a break from politics. People get what they vote for. I hope Virginians enjoy Republican rule and all the evil that comes with it.

Just remember to vote. We got to at least be the ones who continue to vote in every election.


I will but from now I will simply expect to lose.
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Postby Meretica » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:26 pm

Corrian wrote:
Meretica wrote:Only 50% of the vote in, tho. More to count.

I can't find a good map of the counties but I assume there's a lot of blue counties that haven't been called in much.

THis is what I'm using for NJ:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jerseys ... 3#governor
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:27 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Corrian wrote:You might just want to take a break. I am really trying to start doing that because the politics in this country are driving me bonkers.


I am. I’m talking a break from politics. People get what they vote for. I hope Virginians enjoy Republican rule and all the evil that comes with it.

Oh for crying out loud, Republicans aren't evil and my daily life is hardly affected by any sort of policy any politician makes. You're making this into too big of a deal.
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:27 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Corrian wrote:You might just want to take a break. I am really trying to start doing that because the politics in this country are driving me bonkers.


I am. I’m talking a break from politics. People get what they vote for. I hope Virginians enjoy Republican rule and all the evil that comes with it.

We will happily enjoy the evils of our gun rights very much!

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:27 pm

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Cannot think of a name wrote:Why would they keep chasing a fickle voter block who doesn't show up even when they have the options on the table? Total waste of time for them to alienate a reliable voter base chasing a group that thinks sitting on their hands is a political virtue. Hell, I'm in that category, they managed to get me to vote Democrat exactly once...why the fuck should they care about what I say when they can court a group that will give their candidates some of their NPR money and reliably show up as long as the policy doesn't scare them too much?

If this snitty progressive block was as powerful and big as they imagined they could be coalescing around a third party option or elect local party officials working their way up to shape the party and actually become a block worth courting But they'd rather complain on the internet and spout privileged bullshit like abandoning any progress no matter how small to spite literally just themselves but prevent any relief coming to vulnerable people at all and get smug when someone who will work actively against them gets in office like that's accomplishing their goals somehow.

The progressives are at fault because they refuse to exert their power and when they do they don't have the balls to push it to the finish line, instead taking the first setback they can find to justify doomposting. They squandered the change in national conversation that came with Occupy, they squandered the movement from last year. Meanwhile the moderates remain reliable as the sunrise.

If two senators is enough to make you want to take your ball and go home, you're not worth courting. Every election night it's the same shit, people falling all over themselves to put on their "End is Nigh" sandwich boards and wonder why they didn't court the voters who spent the campaign throwing venom and insisting that voting for them is a waste of time.

People need to stop treating their vote like a wish and remember that collect action gets the goods.

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Postby Corrian » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:28 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Corrian wrote:Yeah, I actually thought Youngkin was going to underperform and it was going to be literally down to 1% either way. Its not good (for Dems)

I thought McAuliffe was going to win up until yesterday. Then I was hopeful that Youngkin could nab a narrow victory, but I felt that the odds were pretty 50-50. No way did I think Youngkin was going to win by anything over like 1.5% max.

Yeah, exactly.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:29 pm

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Postby Immortan Khan » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:30 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Corrian wrote:I'm really tired of this country honestly. I seriously, seriously wish it was easier to get out.

I wonder if Europe and Canada will be accepting large numbers of political refugees after we take over and establish permanent far right rule?

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Postby Corrian » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:30 pm

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:33 pm

Arlenton wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I am. I’m talking a break from politics. People get what they vote for. I hope Virginians enjoy Republican rule and all the evil that comes with it.

We will happily enjoy the evils of our gun rights very much!

And when I can’t marry my boyfriend I will blame Republicans. Enjoy one party rule because there is no way Republicans certify a Democratic victory after a wave election next year.

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Postby Arlenton » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:33 pm


That is very good news for Dems. PA Reps need to be paying attention and vote.

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Postby Neuer California » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:33 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I am. I’m talking a break from politics. People get what they vote for. I hope Virginians enjoy Republican rule and all the evil that comes with it.

Oh for crying out loud, Republicans aren't evil and my daily life is hardly affected by any sort of policy any politician makes. You're making this into too big of a deal.


Says the person who said:

Great Algerstonia wrote:The Democratic Party needs to be banned
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:34 pm

Nora Xent wrote:

I have a question:
Why is the democratic party of Virginia giving him free ads?

Because the dumbasses don't have enough sense to realize that "Youngkin=Trump, vote McAuliffe!" was already at peak level and that their false flag operation was only going to appeal to the "Youngkin isn't MAGA enough" voters.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:34 pm

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Postby Nora Xent » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:34 pm

Neuer California wrote:
Great Algerstonia wrote:Oh for crying out loud, Republicans aren't evil and my daily life is hardly affected by any sort of policy any politician makes. You're making this into too big of a deal.


Says the person who said:

Great Algerstonia wrote:The Democratic Party needs to be banned

iirc, Great Algerstonia is parodying trumpist republicans, it's not a very good parody, but still a parody.

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Postby Great Algerstonia » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:34 pm

Neuer California wrote:
Great Algerstonia wrote:Oh for crying out loud, Republicans aren't evil and my daily life is hardly affected by any sort of policy any politician makes. You're making this into too big of a deal.


Says the person who said:

Great Algerstonia wrote:The Democratic Party needs to be banned

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Postby Arlenton » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:36 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Arlenton wrote:We will happily enjoy the evils of our gun rights very much!

And when I can’t marry my boyfriend I will blame Republicans. Enjoy one party rule because there is no way Republicans certify a Democratic victory after a wave election next year.

All elections will be run like South Carolina circa 1910 after we take control. :p

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:36 pm

Dresderstan wrote:Uhhh, Ciattarelli just increased his lead in NJ and flipped Warren County and his lead is increasing.

I'm surprised...

...that at some point Murphy was actually in the lead in Warren County.
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:36 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:my daily life is hardly affected by any sort of policy any politician makes

I can never tell when you're doing a bit and when you're serious and it's a real problem for my enjoyment of your actual bits
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:36 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Arlenton wrote:We will happily enjoy the evils of our gun rights very much!

And when I can’t marry my boyfriend I will blame Republicans. Enjoy one party rule because there is no way Republicans certify a Democratic victory after a wave election next year.

The Supreme Court isn't overturning Obergefell vs. Hodges, and no other politician can overturn Supreme Court rulings. As per the rest of that, the Republicans had so many opportunities to do that in 2020... why didn't they?
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Postby Meretica » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:37 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Arlenton wrote:We will happily enjoy the evils of our gun rights very much!

And when I can’t marry my boyfriend I will blame Republicans. Enjoy one party rule because there is no way Republicans certify a Democratic victory after a wave election next year.

That requires a supermajority, not a simple majority
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Postby Corrian » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:38 pm

Arlenton wrote:

That is very good news for Dems. PA Reps need to be paying attention and vote.

Yeah, its interesting that Virginia, a Dem 10+ state, is going red, but in the same weird time something like that flips in such a swingy state as Pennsylvania.
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:38 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:And when I can’t marry my boyfriend I will blame Republicans. Enjoy one party rule because there is no way Republicans certify a Democratic victory after a wave election next year.

The Supreme Court isn't overturning Obergefell vs. Hodges, and no other politician can overturn Supreme Court rulings.

I mean, not this year, anyways, but never say never.
As per the rest of that, the Republicans had so many opportunities to do that in 2020... why didn't they?

they literally tried where have u been
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:38 pm


How, the race hasn't been called and she's still losing to Brobson by 40K votes.
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