American Politics VII: Virginia Reel

[North Washington Republic]

I'm very active too. My job is very demanding, and I go to the gym every day anyway.

But the prospect of complications don't worry me, because the statistics are on my side.

The only thing that would make me consider getting the vaccine is if I was routinely around elderly people, or if I were already unhealthy.

The statistics you keep quoting wihtout citation.

That’s because anti-vaxxers only sources are they see on social media from their friends and fellow anti-vaxxers. All of the actually creditable sources such as the CDC and the WHO are “corrupt“, the reason vary on why they believe the vast majority of individual doctors and health organizations recommend getting the vaccine. From “it’s just a money racket for big pharma” to “It’s the mark of the beast from the satanic baby eating DEMONcrats”.

This is the modern day right-wing in America. And you Europeans wonder why I’m so jelly over your center-right parties.

[Thermodolia]

No statistics aren’t on your side. The complications happen to anyone. I know a guy who’s younger than me and an athlete. He got covid and now has heart problems.

The complications don’t care if your young or old

Yeah, that may be.

But you're more likely to suffer complications if you're older, rather than younger.

Nope. It’s the same all around. My mom and sister can’t taste and smell.

[Vassenor]

The statistics you keep quoting wihtout citation.

That’s because anti-vaxxers only sources are they see on social media from their friends and fellow anti-vaxxers. All of the actually creditable sources such as the CDC and the WHO are “corrupt“, the reason vary on why they believe the vast majority of individual doctors and health organizations recommend getting the vaccine. From “it’s just a money racket for big pharma” to “It’s the mark of the beast from the satanic baby eating DEMONcrats”.

This is the modern day right-wing in America. And you Europeans wonder why I’m so jelly over your center-right parties.

-looks at how roundly our "center-right" government roundly botched our response to the pandemic-

[Relden]

Show us the statistics that prove that. If you even can.

No, I'm not going to. You find them, if you want.

It's basic logic. Older people are obviously less healthy. Illnesses will affect them in ways worse than it would younger people.

[The Reformed American Republic]

No statistics aren’t on your side. The complications happen to anyone. I know a guy who’s younger than me and an athlete. He got covid and now has heart problems.

The complications don’t care if your young or old

Yeah, that may be.

But you're more likely to suffer complications if you're older, rather than younger.

Severe complications resulting in death, sure, but being young is not as much of a bullet proof shield you think it is.

[The Reformed American Republic]

That’s because anti-vaxxers only sources are they see on social media from their friends and fellow anti-vaxxers. All of the actually creditable sources such as the CDC and the WHO are “corrupt“, the reason vary on why they believe the vast majority of individual doctors and health organizations recommend getting the vaccine. From “it’s just a money racket for big pharma” to “It’s the mark of the beast from the satanic baby eating DEMONcrats”.

This is the modern day right-wing in America. And you Europeans wonder why I’m so jelly over your center-right parties.

-looks at how roundly our "center-right" government roundly botched our response to the pandemic-

I'm not going to pretend to like your conservative parties, but having a conservative party that isn't batshit would be pleasant for many people here. Here, Covid-19 is a hoax, Democrats are pedophiles, the election was rigged against Trump, and other such falsehoods are believed and promoted by many in the GOP.

[Thermodolia]

Show us the statistics that prove that. If you even can.

No, I'm not going to. You find them, if you want.

It's basic logic. Older people are obviously less healthy. Illnesses will affect them in ways worse than it would younger people.

That’s not how it works. You make the point you prove it

[North Washington Republic]

Show us the statistics that prove that. If you even can.

No, I'm not going to. You find them, if you want.

It's basic logic. Older people are obviously less healthy. Illnesses will affect them in ways worse than it would younger people.

Of course you would say that.

[San Lumen]

Show us the statistics that prove that. If you even can.

No, I'm not going to. You find them, if you want.

It's basic logic. Older people are obviously less healthy. Illnesses will affect them in ways worse than it would younger people.

Just like your point about demographic homicide. How about attempting to prove your points instead of dodging direct answers.

[North Washington Republic]

No, I'm not going to. You find them, if you want.

It's basic logic. Older people are obviously less healthy. Illnesses will affect them in ways worse than it would younger people.

That’s not how it works. You make the point you prove it

I think they don’t want to share their sources because any source they would provide would justifiably mocked and ridiculed.

[The Reformed American Republic]

No, I'm not going to. You find them, if you want.

It's basic logic. Older people are obviously less healthy. Illnesses will affect them in ways worse than it would younger people.

That’s not how it works. You make the point you prove it

It doesn't matter. Facts do not matter in our post-truth, post-modern world. You can disprove what he says until you pass out from exhaustion; it won't do anything good in the end.

We're not going to get over this pandemic. That is obvious, thanks in significant part to people like him. And it is mostly people like him who are the most stringently anti-vaxx.

[North Washington Republic]

-looks at how roundly our "center-right" government roundly botched our response to the pandemic-

I'm not going to pretend to like your conservative parties, but having a conservative party that isn't batshit would be pleasant for many people here. Here, Covid-19 is a hoax, Democrats are pedophiles, the election was rigged against Trump, and other such falsehoods are believed and promoted by many in the GOP.

Since a lot of European countries already have a solid welfare state established, I would most likely be on the center-right because I LOVE NATO.

[San Lumen]

That’s not how it works. You make the point you prove it

It doesn't matter. Facts do not matter in our post-truth, post-modern world. You can disprove what he says until you pass out from exhaustion; it won't do anything good in the end.

We're not going to get over this pandemic. That is obvious, thanks in significant part to people like him. And it is mostly people like him who are the most stringently anti-vaxx.

Yes we will. All pandemics end. I wish people would stop repeating this line.

[Ifreann]

It doesn't matter. Facts do not matter in our post-truth, post-modern world. You can disprove what he says until you pass out from exhaustion; it won't do anything good in the end.

We're not going to get over this pandemic. That is obvious, thanks in significant part to people like him. And it is mostly people like him who are the most stringently anti-vaxx.

Yes we will. All pandemics end. I wish people would stop repeating this line.

When did the AIDS pandemic end?

[Thermodolia]

That’s not how it works. You make the point you prove it

It doesn't matter. Facts do not matter in our post-truth, post-modern world. You can disprove what he says until you pass out from exhaustion; it won't do anything good in the end.

We're not going to get over this pandemic. That is obvious, thanks in significant part to people like him.

Actually I’d say that the light at the end of the tunnel is near.

The vaccine mandates are working, over 90% compliance. Seems that when you threaten people with losing their jobs they comply. So with that combined with the fact that people who have gotten COVID also have antibodies means we are closer to getting it under control.

So Biden should have mandated the vaccine nationally on day one instead of faffing about

[Corrian]

Are you seriously scared of a vaccine? Jesus you’re not very macho if your scared of a little vaccine

No, I just don't want it at all.

I could say the exact same for people who desperately rushed to get the vaccine for a disease with generally mild symptoms and an extremely high survival rate.

I "rushed to get the vaccine" because I have an immunocompromised mom, and I worked in retail the entire pandemic which makes me more easily exposed to COVID in general because I'm in the public. Not to mention my multiple anti-vax coworkers.

[Relden]

I "rushed to get the vaccine" because I have an immunocompromised mom, and I worked in retail the entire pandemic which makes me more easily exposed to COVID in general because I'm in the public. Not to mention my multiple anti-vax coworkers.

I haven't criticized people like you. I even said that I would get the vaccine if I were in contact with someone who is elderly or unhealthy.

I worked pretty much the entire pandemic, too.

[Corrian]

It doesn't matter. Facts do not matter in our post-truth, post-modern world. You can disprove what he says until you pass out from exhaustion; it won't do anything good in the end.

We're not going to get over this pandemic. That is obvious, thanks in significant part to people like him.

Actually I’d say that the light at the end of the tunnel is near.

The vaccine mandates are working, over 90% compliance. Seems that when you threaten people with losing their jobs they comply. So with that combined with the fact that people who have gotten COVID also have antibodies means we are closer to getting it under control.

So Biden should have mandated the vaccine nationally on day one instead of faffing about

When does the vaccine mandate/weekly testing in companies with over 100 people start? They announced it like a month ago and I can't wait until that drama starts at work.

By the way, that has already worked, too. I know multiple people who aren't necessarily anti-vax but dragged their feet who are now getting it because of the mandate. At least 3 or 4 coworkers. And another one that apparently did the "I will never get the shot" who got it. It'll be fun when they start getting tested weekly or get the vaccine how many people can't even do the bare minimum decency of being tested and quit. Because what's doing the bare minimum to protect yourself and your fellow coworkers anyway? Honestly exactly why I don't care if they leave, even if it will be a mess. Its not like it isn't already so.

I "rushed to get the vaccine" because I have an immunocompromised mom, and I worked in retail the entire pandemic which makes me more easily exposed to COVID in general because I'm in the public. Not to mention my multiple anti-vax coworkers.

I haven't criticized people like you. I even said that I would get the vaccine if I were in contact with someone who is elderly or unhealthy.

I worked pretty much the entire pandemic, too.

Yeah I saw that post after I made this one, sorry.

[The Reformed American Republic]

It doesn't matter. Facts do not matter in our post-truth, post-modern world. You can disprove what he says until you pass out from exhaustion; it won't do anything good in the end.

We're not going to get over this pandemic. That is obvious, thanks in significant part to people like him.

Actually I’d say that the light at the end of the tunnel is near.

The vaccine mandates are working, over 90% compliance. Seems that when you threaten people with losing their jobs they comply. So with that combined with the fact that people who have gotten COVID also have antibodies means we are closer to getting it under control.

So Biden should have mandated the vaccine nationally on day one instead of faffing about

Biden's approval rating is falling. In the next three years we can have a new president who overturns them, and local and midterm elections will come even sooner. Both can throw a roadblock into what Biden is doing.

[Corrian]

Actually I’d say that the light at the end of the tunnel is near.

The vaccine mandates are working, over 90% compliance. Seems that when you threaten people with losing their jobs they comply. So with that combined with the fact that people who have gotten COVID also have antibodies means we are closer to getting it under control.

So Biden should have mandated the vaccine nationally on day one instead of faffing about

Biden's approval rating is falling. In the next three years we can have a new president who overturns them, and local and midterm elections will come even sooner. Both can throw a roadblock into what Biden is doing.

That's the only poll saying his approval is that low. Two others show its going back up slowly, so I don't know what's with Quinnipiac.

[Relden]

Biden's approval rating is falling.

Pog day!

[The Reformed American Republic]

Biden's approval rating is falling. In the next three years we can have a new president who overturns them, and local and midterm elections will come even sooner. Both can throw a roadblock into what Biden is doing.

That's the only poll saying his approval is that low. Two others show its going back up slowly, so I don't know what's with Quinnipiac.

It's not the only poll: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wh ... o-quickly/
Biden is not popular.

[Corrian]

That's the only poll saying his approval is that low. Two others show its going back up slowly, so I don't know what's with Quinnipiac.

It's not the only poll: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wh ... o-quickly/
Biden is not popular.

That's still the only one at 38 percent. Other new ones were at 48 and 50. Its not good, but its possible signs of a recovery. But I don't really expect it to be perfect in the current situation. With nothing getting passed in his agenda and the pandemic running rampant again, it makes sense.

[The Reformed American Republic]

It's not the only poll: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wh ... o-quickly/
Biden is not popular.

That's still the only one at 38 percent. Other new ones were at 48 and 50. Its not good, but its possible signs of a recovery. But I don't really expect it to be perfect in the current situation. With nothing getting passed in his agenda and the pandemic running rampant again, it makes sense.

Since we only have two parties, a low Biden approval rating will only help Republicans, even if they wouldn't manage the situation any better.

[Corrian]

That's still the only one at 38 percent. Other new ones were at 48 and 50. Its not good, but its possible signs of a recovery. But I don't really expect it to be perfect in the current situation. With nothing getting passed in his agenda and the pandemic running rampant again, it makes sense.

Since we only have two parties, a low Biden approval rating will only help Republicans, even if they wouldn't manage the situation any better.

Don't worry, Americans just LOVE flip flopping back and forth as if that'll accomplish something. Because obviously the party who did nothing for the pandemic is the good one to put into power next, that'll fix everything. Oh, when it doesn't again? Welp, time to flip back to the other party who didn't actually pass anything. So on and so forth forever.