American Politics VII: Virginia Reel

[Diahon]

"or whatever the correct legal remedy is"

this fucking abyss

[Antipatros]

I’m almost certain there is no mechanism for that and is unconstitutional.

No, but it could provide thin justification for a coup, whether there is a provision in the constitution that allows them to do that or not.

At this point, I don't know if these guys need actual justifications for anything that they do. They just do stuff and then fabricate the justification ex post facto.

[Duvniask]

Meanwhile, Trump asks Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R) to decertify the election (no you have not gone back in time)

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What does it take for a man to have a good, readable signature, jeez.

[San Lumen]

No, but it could provide thin justification for a coup, whether there is a provision in the constitution that allows them to do that or not.

At this point, I don't know if these guys need actual justifications for anything that they do. They just do stuff and then fabricate the justification ex post facto.

It would not shock me if Republicans attempt to overturn elections they lose next year.

[Immortan Khan]

Meanwhile, Trump asks Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R) to decertify the election (no you have not gone back in time)

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What does it take for a man to have a good, readable signature, jeez.

The art of writing is increasingly lost among many Americans, regardless of social class. Even Obama's signature was pretty bad.

[The Reformed American Republic]

No, but it could provide thin justification for a coup, whether there is a provision in the constitution that allows them to do that or not.

At this point, I don't know if these guys need actual justifications for anything that they do. They just do stuff and then fabricate the justification ex post facto.

I know, but no one is going to outright say "I'm taking power and destroying democracy because we did not win." They need to sugar coat it with a thin veneer of respectability.

[Kowani]

there is a "Justice for January 6th Political Prisoners" rally going on at the capitol right now and though i don't expect anything big to happen i'll keep an eye on it so we're not blindsided like we were on the actual january 6th

official portion over
maybe 50 or so actual attendees, outnumbered by cops and press

[Genivaria]

At this point, I don't know if these guys need actual justifications for anything that they do. They just do stuff and then fabricate the justification ex post facto.

I know, but no one is going to outright say "I'm taking power and destroying democracy because we did not win." They need to sugar coat it with a thin veneer of respectability.

I mean neither Augustus or Hitler ever actually declared their republics to be dead, so it would seem that going the Palpatine route isn't very smart.

[San Lumen]

At this point, I don't know if these guys need actual justifications for anything that they do. They just do stuff and then fabricate the justification ex post facto.

I know, but no one is going to outright say "I'm taking power and destroying democracy because we did not win." They need to sugar coat it with a thin veneer of respectability.

At this point I would not put it past Republicans to do exactly that.

[The Reformed American Republic]

I know, but no one is going to outright say "I'm taking power and destroying democracy because we did not win." They need to sugar coat it with a thin veneer of respectability.

I mean neither Augustus or Hitler ever actually declared their republics to be dead, so it would seem that going the Palpatine route isn't very smart.

Indeed. Hitler would pretend that the public almost unanimously supported him and that the referendums that put him in power were fair. The truth was buried not broadcasted.

[Kowani]

In the SCOTUS challenge to Mississippi's 15-week abortion ban (the case where the state explicitly asks for the court to overturn Roe v. Wade), Jonathan Mitchell, the guy behind Texas' SB 8, has filed an amicus brief on behalf of Texas Right to Life which invites the Court to overrule Roe v. Wade, Casey v. Planned Parenthood, as well as Lawrence v. Texas and Obergefell v. Hodges


if you don't know those cases, in order:
Roe: abortion rights
Casey: abortion rights (undue burden standard)
Lawrence: decriminalization of same-sex intercourse
Obergefell: legalization of same-sex marriage

[The Jamesian Republic]

At this point, I don't know if these guys need actual justifications for anything that they do. They just do stuff and then fabricate the justification ex post facto.

It would not shock me if Republicans attempt to overturn elections they lose next year.

I live in Alabama and supposedly Mike Lindell was able to access the Alabama voting records and my mom’s name was on that. That’s very scary.

[Great Algerstonia]

Meanwhile, Trump asks Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R) to decertify the election (no you have not gone back in time)

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I’m almost certain there is no mechanism for that and is unconstitutional.

Who cares, just let the patriots win for one day

[Kowani]

It would not shock me if Republicans attempt to overturn elections they lose next year.

I live in Alabama and supposedly Mike Lindell was able to access the Alabama voting records and my mom’s name was on that. That’s very scary.

Not really
voter records are very easily accessible public info in most states

[The Jamesian Republic]

I live in Alabama and supposedly Mike Lindell was able to access the Alabama voting records and my mom’s name was on that. That’s very scary.

Not really
voter records are very easily accessible public info in most states

I know that but they really shouldn’t be.

[Vassenor]

Meanwhile, Trump asks Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R) to decertify the election (no you have not gone back in time)

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What was it Trump and co spent four years saying to us?

"YOU LOST GET OVER IT."

They need to take their own advice.

[The Alma Mater]

I know, but no one is going to outright say "I'm taking power and destroying democracy because we did not win." They need to sugar coat it with a thin veneer of respectability.

At this point I would not put it past Republicans to do exactly that.

Republicans have openly stated they oppose making voting easy and accessible to all who are eligible. It really does not get much more clear.

[Eahland]

At this point, I don't know if these guys need actual justifications for anything that they do. They just do stuff and then fabricate the justification ex post facto.

It would not shock me if Republicans attempt to overturn elections they lose next year.

Yes, I would also be unsurprised if they were to attempt to do something that they have been actively attempting to do for the last year.

[San Lumen]

In the SCOTUS challenge to Mississippi's 15-week abortion ban (the case where the state explicitly asks for the court to overturn Roe v. Wade), Jonathan Mitchell, the guy behind Texas' SB 8, has filed an amicus brief on behalf of Texas Right to Life which invites the Court to overrule Roe v. Wade, Casey v. Planned Parenthood, as well as Lawrence v. Texas and Obergefell v. Hodges


if you don't know those cases, in order:
Roe: abortion rights
Casey: abortion rights (undue burden standard)
Lawrence: decriminalization of same-sex intercourse
Obergefell: legalization of same-sex marriage

I can’t see them doing that. They would be so wildly out of step with public opinion the court would lose all legitimacy.

[Kilobugya]

I can’t see them doing that. They would be so wildly out of step with public opinion the court would lose all legitimacy.

It feels like a case of "ask for the impossible to get the merely outrageous", they know they won't get the SCOTUS to overthrow all those, but they give cover for the Justice to uphold most of them, but poke giant holes in other (especially abortion) and appear to have a balanced, impartial ruling. Disgusting strategy for a disgusting purpose...

[Genivaria]

In the SCOTUS challenge to Mississippi's 15-week abortion ban (the case where the state explicitly asks for the court to overturn Roe v. Wade), Jonathan Mitchell, the guy behind Texas' SB 8, has filed an amicus brief on behalf of Texas Right to Life which invites the Court to overrule Roe v. Wade, Casey v. Planned Parenthood, as well as Lawrence v. Texas and Obergefell v. Hodges


if you don't know those cases, in order:
Roe: abortion rights
Casey: abortion rights (undue burden standard)
Lawrence: decriminalization of same-sex intercourse
Obergefell: legalization of same-sex marriage

I can’t see them doing that. They would be so wildly out of step with public opinion the court would lose all legitimacy.

Let's say they overturn all of them, the consequences for SCOTUS would be...what exactly?

[Kilobugya]

Let's say they overturn all of them, the consequences for SCOTUS would be...what exactly?

Lots of cover for the Democrats to extend the size of SCOTUS to 13 or 15 next time they can, or to significantly nerf their power (since Constitution leaves lot of control to Congress on what exactly SCOTUS can do). Or even do a "SCOTUS have made their ruling, now let them enforce it" and start ignoring it, triggering a major constitutional crisis with no clear outcome.

[The Reformed American Republic]

At this point I would not put it past Republicans to do exactly that.

Republicans have openly stated they oppose making voting easy and accessible to all who are eligible. It really does not get much more clear.

Yes, but they disguise the maliciousness of that under the guise of the possibility of voter fraud. They're not going to say "Look, we're going to do a bunch of bad things!" They are going to try to make (admittedly terrible) arguments to make themselves look good.

[Proctopeo]

Has this been posted yet? Say what you want about the January 6th incident or its participants, this shit is inexcusable. Unless, of course, you're somehow in favor of inhumane prison conditions and jailer brutality.

[Antipatros]

Has this been posted yet? Say what you want about the January 6th incident or its participants, this shit is inexcusable. Unless, of course, you're somehow in favor of inhumane prison conditions and jailer brutality.

Sandlin said one of the guards declared, “I hate all white people and your honky religion.”

Press x to doubt.

Despite my skepticism, I will say that if those claims are substantiated, whoever was involved with that should lose their job at a minimum or perhaps even face criminal prosecution.