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Postby Central World Alliance » Sat May 15, 2010 9:58 am

I would rather live my life beliveing that their is a God and dieing only to find out their isn't than believing that their isn't and dieing to find out thier is
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Postby Kantria » Sat May 15, 2010 10:00 am

Pascal's Wager has been argued, debunked, re-argued and re-debunked so many times here that you could probably find all major points for and against on a single page of threads.
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Postby Hydesland » Sat May 15, 2010 10:00 am

I, as an atheist have no problem with that. Others do (which I find problematic).

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Postby South Lorenya » Sat May 15, 2010 10:00 am

And if it turns out that there IS a deity, but they're NOT the christian one?
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Postby The Galirandi » Sat May 15, 2010 10:01 am

Heard it before. Not interested. Also, logical fallacy (of the "If X, then Y. Y is beneficial. Therefore, X is true" fashion).

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Postby Maurepas » Sat May 15, 2010 10:01 am

Kantria wrote:Pascal's Wager has been argued, debunked, re-argued and re-debunked so many times here that you could probably find all major points for and against on a single page of threads.

This^^^, I'm hedging my bets on the one that doesn't have the possibility of eternal torment, ;)

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Postby IHaveNoImagination » Sat May 15, 2010 10:02 am

I'd rather live in reality.
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Postby Hydesland » Sat May 15, 2010 10:02 am

The Galirandi wrote:Heard it before. Not interested. Also, logical fallacy (of the "If X, then Y. Y is beneficial. Therefore, X is true" fashion).


Funny how you immediately assume that this person is attempting to make an argument for the existence of God, despite not doing so at all. He is merely stating that he is happier doing so.

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Postby Big Jim P » Sat May 15, 2010 10:03 am

I prefer living my life knowing that if I am wrong and it turns out there IS a god, then I will be able to look it in the eye and face its judgment with a clear conscience.
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Postby Chrobalta » Sat May 15, 2010 10:04 am

I enjoy not going through life being deluded.
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Postby Call to power » Sat May 15, 2010 10:04 am

I'd rather spend my life stupendously wealthy tbh and deal with trying to get past the bouncers later
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Postby Our L Lawliet » Sat May 15, 2010 10:05 am

I'm dying with a fish in my hands just in case there's really an Abrahamic god so I can slap them for not making any sense.

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Postby Ranasse » Sat May 15, 2010 10:15 am

Our L Lawliet wrote:I'm dying with a fish in my hands just in case there's really an Abrahamic god so I can slap them for not making any sense.


LOL nice one :D

Also, to the OP: Is God going to be happy I wonder, that you believed in him because you considered it to be 'the safest bet'?
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Postby The Galirandi » Sat May 15, 2010 10:19 am

Hydesland wrote:
The Galirandi wrote:Heard it before. Not interested. Also, logical fallacy (of the "If X, then Y. Y is beneficial. Therefore, X is true" fashion).


Funny how you immediately assume that this person is attempting to make an argument for the existence of God, despite not doing so at all. He is merely stating that he is happier doing so.

It seems like they're making an argument for belief in God. Of course, the subjectivity of religious belief is such that an atheist would not be convinced by even a completely logical reason for doing so, making such arguments pointless. (Those who choose religious belief after growing up atheist don't do so because it's more logical, but usually to fulfill some inner need or due to a purely personal revelation or epiphany of some kind.)

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Postby Rambhutan » Sat May 15, 2010 10:20 am

Is an athesist a PhD student with a problem?
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Postby Self--Esteem » Sat May 15, 2010 10:20 am

Central World Alliance wrote:I would rather live my life beliveing that their is a God and dieing only to find out their isn't than believing that their isn't and dieing to find out thier is


That's just you then.

The rest of us tries to make sense.

And I can asure you. It is much worse to believe in something that is proven wrong than believe in nothing and see that there is something.

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Postby Ranasse » Sat May 15, 2010 10:22 am

And I can asure you. It is much worse to believe in something that is proven wrong than believe in nothing and see that there is something.


Unless of course, that something will punish you for eternity for not irrationally believing in it in life.... which I presume is that the OP thinks god will do! Being the merciful and just god that he is ;)

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Postby The shee species » Sat May 15, 2010 10:22 am

Our L Lawliet wrote:I'm dying with a fish loaded gun in my hands just in case there's really an Abrahamic god so I can slap them for not making any sense. pull off the largest corp ever

Me :p
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Postby Auremena » Sat May 15, 2010 10:23 am

Self--Esteem wrote:
Central World Alliance wrote:I would rather live my life beliveing that their is a God and dieing only to find out their isn't than believing that their isn't and dieing to find out thier is


That's just you then.

The rest of us tries to make sense.

And I can asure you. It is much worse to believe in something that is proven wrong than believe in nothing and see that there is something.


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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat May 15, 2010 10:25 am

When I die, I won't care when I find out, presumably. Live how you want to, it's not going to change what I believe.
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Sat May 15, 2010 10:27 am

Central World Alliance wrote:I would rather live my life beliveing that their is a God and dieing only to find out their isn't than believing that their isn't and dieing to find out thier is


Or you could have the best of both worlds by being Agnostic- Living your life believing that there might be a god (or that there is a god of no description) and finding out when you die.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Sat May 15, 2010 10:34 am

Central World Alliance wrote:I would rather live my life beliveing that their is a God and dieing only to find out their isn't than believing that their isn't and dieing to find out thier is


What do I have to say to that?

Um... okay?

I can see a number of reasons why your attempt at logic is unconvincing to me, but, if it works for you... more power to you!
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Postby Maurepas » Sat May 15, 2010 10:36 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Central World Alliance wrote:I would rather live my life beliveing that their is a God and dieing only to find out their isn't than believing that their isn't and dieing to find out thier is


What do I have to say to that?

Um... okay?

I can see a number of reasons why your attempt at logic is unconvincing to me, but, if it works for you... more power to you!

Now thats Ungeneralite...

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Postby Otagia » Sat May 15, 2010 10:42 am

Central World Alliance wrote:I would rather live my life beliveing that their is a God and dieing only to find out their isn't than believing that their isn't and dieing to find out thier is

So it turns out Hades is real and boy is he pissed. Really should catch up on the old animal sacrifice, ne?

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Postby SD_Film Artists » Sat May 15, 2010 10:44 am

Otagia wrote:
Central World Alliance wrote:I would rather live my life beliveing that their is a God and dieing only to find out their isn't than believing that their isn't and dieing to find out thier is

So it turns out Hades is real and boy is he pissed. Really should catch up on the old animal sacrifice, ne?


Indeed. The question does depend on which god exists and how unforgiving said god would be when the unbelievers arrive in purgatory.
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