Coronavirus Thread VII: Jagged Little Pill (READ OP)

[Rusozak]

Mom's been sick this week and got tested for COVID on Monday. Lab results came back today: Negative.

Relieved for sure, but now we're wondering what she's sick with. Doc didn't tell her/didn't give her anything for the chance it isn't COVID.

My sister had a similar experience. Hospital staff seemed single minded on Covid so once they got a negative test they didn't really investigate further or do anything else. We suspect it was the actual flu given the symptoms.

[CoraSpia]

Mom's been sick this week and got tested for COVID on Monday. Lab results came back today: Negative.

Relieved for sure, but now we're wondering what she's sick with. Doc didn't tell her/didn't give her anything for the chance it isn't COVID.

My sister had a similar experience. Hospital staff seemed single minded on Covid so once they got a negative test they didn't really investigate further or do anything else. We suspect it was the actual flu given the symptoms.

my Mum got two negative covid tests and they insisted it was covid, which is weird. Although covid is the most popular virus at the moment other options are still available and doctors need to remember that.

[Kannap]

My county officials one time, during drought conditions and the threat of forest fire (no actual forest fire - at least not that season) banned outdoor fires entirely. Couldn't even have a bonfire in your backyard. Absolutely tyrannical I was in the mood for burnt marshmallows as soon as I read the ban.

Even if there is a nearby forest fire I wouldn't support that. Apparently Australia loves rules like that.

Aren't you the same person who advocated here for reintroducing the rabies virus to the UK?

Haha, yeah, I don't bother taking you too seriously on matters such as this.

[Vassenor]

Time to commit more sins against the Free Marketplace of Ideas by saying a miracle COVID cure is bull.

Snorting and Gargling Iodine to Fight Covid-19 Is a Really Bad Idea

Iodine was once a popular treatment for your typical cut and scratch, and now anti-vaxx circles are claiming that gargling or snorting it works as a preventive for Covid-19.

Povidone iodine, known commercially as Betadine, is typically used on the skin as a first aid treatment or a disinfectant for surgery prep. The brand has also introduced a 0.5% mouth rinse meant to treat a mild sore throat, not prevent Covid.

On Sept. 8th, a Twitter user claiming to be an ER doctor tweeted "Don’t get Covid. Prophylaxis is not that hard. Also nasal spray with a couple of drops [betadine] in it," alongside an image of assorted vitamins. "And gargle with original Listerine," they added, garnering over 270 retweets and plenty of questions.

Several Facebook and Twitter users have also touted Betadine as gargle or nasal spray additive as a means of preventing COVID, one claiming to use it "every time they've been exposed," citing a 2020 study co-authored by a plastic surgeon.

"Iodine is a disinfectant," says William Schaffner, M.D., professor of preventive medicine at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. "Its use has [slowed down] because even on scratches and cuts, its effectiveness has been debated. There's no data that this would be effective for Covid."

Avrio Health, the makers of Betadine, has also intervened in the online conversation around the use of its product as an alternative Covid treatment, stating "Betadine Antiseptic Sore Throat Gargle is only for the temporary relief of occasional sore throat. Betadine Antiseptic products have not been demonstrated to be effective for the treatment or prevention of COVID- 19 or any other viruses."

Dr. Schaffner's biggest fear is the ingestion of the product, whether accidentally or intentionally, in one's attempt to mitigate a Covid infection. "You can really get intestinal upset with nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea [with iodine]," says Dr. Schaffner. "And nobody wants that." In short, save the iodine for a paper cut, not Covid.

[The Alma Mater]

Time to commit more sins against the Free Marketplace of Ideas by saying a miracle COVID cure is bull.

Snorting and Gargling Iodine to Fight Covid-19 Is a Really Bad Idea

Iodine was once a popular treatment for your typical cut and scratch, and now anti-vaxx circles are claiming that gargling or snorting it works as a preventive for Covid-19.

Povidone iodine, known commercially as Betadine, is typically used on the skin as a first aid treatment or a disinfectant for surgery prep. The brand has also introduced a 0.5% mouth rinse meant to treat a mild sore throat, not prevent Covid.

On Sept. 8th, a Twitter user claiming to be an ER doctor tweeted "Don’t get Covid. Prophylaxis is not that hard. Also nasal spray with a couple of drops [betadine] in it," alongside an image of assorted vitamins. "And gargle with original Listerine," they added, garnering over 270 retweets and plenty of questions.

Several Facebook and Twitter users have also touted Betadine as gargle or nasal spray additive as a means of preventing COVID, one claiming to use it "every time they've been exposed," citing a 2020 study co-authored by a plastic surgeon.

"Iodine is a disinfectant," says William Schaffner, M.D., professor of preventive medicine at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. "Its use has [slowed down] because even on scratches and cuts, its effectiveness has been debated. There's no data that this would be effective for Covid."

Avrio Health, the makers of Betadine, has also intervened in the online conversation around the use of its product as an alternative Covid treatment, stating "Betadine Antiseptic Sore Throat Gargle is only for the temporary relief of occasional sore throat. Betadine Antiseptic products have not been demonstrated to be effective for the treatment or prevention of COVID- 19 or any other viruses."

Dr. Schaffner's biggest fear is the ingestion of the product, whether accidentally or intentionally, in one's attempt to mitigate a Covid infection. "You can really get intestinal upset with nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea [with iodine]," says Dr. Schaffner. "And nobody wants that." In short, save the iodine for a paper cut, not Covid.

Everything to not get a vaccine ... damn.

[CoraSpia]

Time to commit more sins against the Free Marketplace of Ideas by saying a miracle COVID cure is bull.

Snorting and Gargling Iodine to Fight Covid-19 Is a Really Bad Idea

Iodine was once a popular treatment for your typical cut and scratch, and now anti-vaxx circles are claiming that gargling or snorting it works as a preventive for Covid-19.

Povidone iodine, known commercially as Betadine, is typically used on the skin as a first aid treatment or a disinfectant for surgery prep. The brand has also introduced a 0.5% mouth rinse meant to treat a mild sore throat, not prevent Covid.

On Sept. 8th, a Twitter user claiming to be an ER doctor tweeted "Don’t get Covid. Prophylaxis is not that hard. Also nasal spray with a couple of drops [betadine] in it," alongside an image of assorted vitamins. "And gargle with original Listerine," they added, garnering over 270 retweets and plenty of questions.

Several Facebook and Twitter users have also touted Betadine as gargle or nasal spray additive as a means of preventing COVID, one claiming to use it "every time they've been exposed," citing a 2020 study co-authored by a plastic surgeon.

"Iodine is a disinfectant," says William Schaffner, M.D., professor of preventive medicine at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. "Its use has [slowed down] because even on scratches and cuts, its effectiveness has been debated. There's no data that this would be effective for Covid."

Avrio Health, the makers of Betadine, has also intervened in the online conversation around the use of its product as an alternative Covid treatment, stating "Betadine Antiseptic Sore Throat Gargle is only for the temporary relief of occasional sore throat. Betadine Antiseptic products have not been demonstrated to be effective for the treatment or prevention of COVID- 19 or any other viruses."

Dr. Schaffner's biggest fear is the ingestion of the product, whether accidentally or intentionally, in one's attempt to mitigate a Covid infection. "You can really get intestinal upset with nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea [with iodine]," says Dr. Schaffner. "And nobody wants that." In short, save the iodine for a paper cut, not Covid.

That's not a sin against the free market of ideas, that's a stall in it.

[Ifreann]

Time to commit more sins against the Free Marketplace of Ideas by saying a miracle COVID cure is bull.

Snorting and Gargling Iodine to Fight Covid-19 Is a Really Bad Idea

Iodine was once a popular treatment for your typical cut and scratch, and now anti-vaxx circles are claiming that gargling or snorting it works as a preventive for Covid-19.

Povidone iodine, known commercially as Betadine, is typically used on the skin as a first aid treatment or a disinfectant for surgery prep. The brand has also introduced a 0.5% mouth rinse meant to treat a mild sore throat, not prevent Covid.

On Sept. 8th, a Twitter user claiming to be an ER doctor tweeted "Don’t get Covid. Prophylaxis is not that hard. Also nasal spray with a couple of drops [betadine] in it," alongside an image of assorted vitamins. "And gargle with original Listerine," they added, garnering over 270 retweets and plenty of questions.

Several Facebook and Twitter users have also touted Betadine as gargle or nasal spray additive as a means of preventing COVID, one claiming to use it "every time they've been exposed," citing a 2020 study co-authored by a plastic surgeon.

"Iodine is a disinfectant," says William Schaffner, M.D., professor of preventive medicine at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. "Its use has [slowed down] because even on scratches and cuts, its effectiveness has been debated. There's no data that this would be effective for Covid."

Avrio Health, the makers of Betadine, has also intervened in the online conversation around the use of its product as an alternative Covid treatment, stating "Betadine Antiseptic Sore Throat Gargle is only for the temporary relief of occasional sore throat. Betadine Antiseptic products have not been demonstrated to be effective for the treatment or prevention of COVID- 19 or any other viruses."

Dr. Schaffner's biggest fear is the ingestion of the product, whether accidentally or intentionally, in one's attempt to mitigate a Covid infection. "You can really get intestinal upset with nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea [with iodine]," says Dr. Schaffner. "And nobody wants that." In short, save the iodine for a paper cut, not Covid.

Getting the iodine shits to own the libs.

[Spirit of Hope]

Time to commit more sins against the Free Marketplace of Ideas by saying a miracle COVID cure is bull.

Snorting and Gargling Iodine to Fight Covid-19 Is a Really Bad Idea

That's not a sin against the free market of ideas, that's a stall in it.

Yay! Let's celebrate people spreading dangerous misinformation that not only doesn't fight the current deadly pandemic but can also endanger their health!

[The Alma Mater]

Time to commit more sins against the Free Marketplace of Ideas by saying a miracle COVID cure is bull.

Snorting and Gargling Iodine to Fight Covid-19 Is a Really Bad Idea

Getting the iodine shits to own the libs.

To return to the previous "wondercure": it appears that some ladies had the brilliant idea to not ingest ivermectin paste orally; but instead rub it on a tampon and inserting that.

That also is not a good idea people.

[Ifreann]

Getting the iodine shits to own the libs.

To return to the previous "wondercure": it appears that some ladies had the brilliant idea to not ingest ivermectin paste orally; but instead rub it on a tampon and inserting that.

That also is not a good idea people.

I did hear that some people were experimenting with taking it rectally, supposedly the taste really is that bad. I suppose taking it vaginally is the next logical step.

"Logical" step.

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Getting the iodine shits to own the libs.

To return to the previous "wondercure": it appears that some ladies had the brilliant idea to not ingest ivermectin paste orally; but instead rub it on a tampon and inserting that.

That also is not a good idea people.

Stupid even by stupid standards. Vaginal absorption of drugs is extremely inefficient. Whatever your sex, the rectum is preferable. But people should be boofing MDMA, not horse dewormer.

[Deblar]

Time to commit more sins against the Free Marketplace of Ideas by saying a miracle COVID cure is bull.

Snorting and Gargling Iodine to Fight Covid-19 Is a Really Bad Idea

Iodine was once a popular treatment for your typical cut and scratch, and now anti-vaxx circles are claiming that gargling or snorting it works as a preventive for Covid-19.

Povidone iodine, known commercially as Betadine, is typically used on the skin as a first aid treatment or a disinfectant for surgery prep. The brand has also introduced a 0.5% mouth rinse meant to treat a mild sore throat, not prevent Covid.

On Sept. 8th, a Twitter user claiming to be an ER doctor tweeted "Don’t get Covid. Prophylaxis is not that hard. Also nasal spray with a couple of drops [betadine] in it," alongside an image of assorted vitamins. "And gargle with original Listerine," they added, garnering over 270 retweets and plenty of questions.

Several Facebook and Twitter users have also touted Betadine as gargle or nasal spray additive as a means of preventing COVID, one claiming to use it "every time they've been exposed," citing a 2020 study co-authored by a plastic surgeon.

"Iodine is a disinfectant," says William Schaffner, M.D., professor of preventive medicine at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. "Its use has [slowed down] because even on scratches and cuts, its effectiveness has been debated. There's no data that this would be effective for Covid."

Avrio Health, the makers of Betadine, has also intervened in the online conversation around the use of its product as an alternative Covid treatment, stating "Betadine Antiseptic Sore Throat Gargle is only for the temporary relief of occasional sore throat. Betadine Antiseptic products have not been demonstrated to be effective for the treatment or prevention of COVID- 19 or any other viruses."

Dr. Schaffner's biggest fear is the ingestion of the product, whether accidentally or intentionally, in one's attempt to mitigate a Covid infection. "You can really get intestinal upset with nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea [with iodine]," says Dr. Schaffner. "And nobody wants that." In short, save the iodine for a paper cut, not Covid.

Iodine?

Wh…what the fu-

[Kerwa]

It’s the US. People squirt coffee up their arses to “cure” cancer. Why anyone is surprised by anything at this point is beyond me.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Time to commit more sins against the Free Marketplace of Ideas by saying a miracle COVID cure is bull.

Snorting and Gargling Iodine to Fight Covid-19 Is a Really Bad Idea

Getting the iodine shits to own the libs.

Oh look. Some in the US doing something idiotic and unproven to ''cure'' CoVID19. Again. News at 11.

[The Alma Mater]

Getting the iodine shits to own the libs.

Oh look. Some in the US doing something idiotic and unproven to ''cure'' CoVID19. Again. News at 11.

I wonder if, deep down, they know they are being silly.
I assume subconciously at least. That is probably why they make up all the magnetism and 5g and trackers etc. up - just saying "I do not want 2 10 second jabs" sounds too.. whiny and pathetic.

[Necroghastia]

hot fucking take: "vaccine choice" is the cowardly, weasel-words way of being antivax.

anyone who feels even the slightest degree of responsibility toward their community and fellow man and isn't one of the poor saps being taken advantage of by people they trust for whatever reason wouldn't play such games with life

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Oh look. Some in the US doing something idiotic and unproven to ''cure'' CoVID19. Again. News at 11.

I wonder if, deep down, they know they are being silly.
I assume subconciously at least. That is probably why they make up all the magnetism and 5g and trackers etc. up - just saying "I do not want 2 10 second jabs" sounds too.. whiny and pathetic.

I don't know anymore. At one point I tried to see what the actual logic was regarding their stupidity. I realized early on there's no point in trying. They're just desperate idiots and I'd rather not get a headache trying to reason the why they do what they do.

[CoraSpia]

hot fucking take: "vaccine choice" is the cowardly, weasel-words way of being antivax.

anyone who feels even the slightest degree of responsibility toward their community and fellow man and isn't one of the poor saps being taken advantage of by people they trust for whatever reason wouldn't play such games with life

I'm a fan of freedom.

Get the vaccine, the vaccine might save your life and the life of someone you love. If you don't want to get the vaccine though, don't get the vaccine. It's your call because I assume you to be a living and thinking human being rather than someone who is incapable of making medical decisions on their own.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Time to commit more sins against the Free Marketplace of Ideas by saying a miracle COVID cure is bull.

Snorting and Gargling Iodine to Fight Covid-19 Is a Really Bad Idea

Iodine?

Wh…what the fu-

We're in the world of alt-truth and alt-medicine, so don't try to make sense of it.

[North Washington Republic]

Iodine?

Wh…what the fu-

We're in the world of alt-truth and alt-medicine, so don't try to make sense of it.

I call it medical populism.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

We're in the world of alt-truth and alt-medicine, so don't try to make sense of it.

I call it medical populism.

Don't attach ''medical'' to it, because it isn't. At best, it's plain populism quackery. At worst, it's plain populism quackery.

[The Reformed American Republic]

We're in the world of alt-truth and alt-medicine, so don't try to make sense of it.

I call it medical populism.

It's anti-intellectualism. Most populists don't entertain such stupidity.

[North Washington Republic]

I call it medical populism.

It's anti-intellectualism. Most populists don't entertain such stupidity.

Populism, especially right-wing populism has a long history of anti-intellectualism. I would say that in the United States, they cannot be separated.

[The Reformed American Republic]

I call it medical populism.

Don't attach ''medical'' to it, because it isn't. At best, it's plain populism quackery. At worst, it's plain populism quackery.

While it may be populist, I think it's much more of a partisan identity and just part of their solidarity. Part of their identity is that they're anti-science and anti-public health.

A far cry from the populists fighting for universal healthcare for example.

[North Washington Republic]

Here is a hot take: Paid trolls paid by hostile states and regimes are telling Americans to take dangerous “alternative medicine”. telling them to not wear masks, not get vaccinated and to purposely disobey public health guidelines.

I’m willing to listen to Putin apologists try to convince me either wise.