Coronavirus Thread VII: Jagged Little Pill (READ OP)

[Haganham]

Covid cases and hospitalisations in England are rising – and experts don’t know why

Funny how this is happening after the government ditched all restrictions and made it almost impossible to trace the spread.

Experts definitely know why.

Oh man, that sounds like a covid 19 conspiracy theory to me! you're going to get people sick saying that

[Grave_n_idle]

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/597841-vermont-priest-removed-after-balking-at-covid-19-precautions

Vermont priest removed after balking at COVID-19 precautions

So... don't balk at the precautions.

It's really not that hard.

[The Black Forrest]

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/597841-vermont-priest-removed-after-balking-at-covid-19-precautions

Vermont priest removed after balking at COVID-19 precautions

Good.

[Farnhamia]

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/597841-vermont-priest-removed-after-balking-at-covid-19-precautions

Vermont priest removed after balking at COVID-19 precautions

Good.

He should have been more careful. After all, you don't have to go very high up his management chain before you get to God. His ideas about his rights imply he's not really a devout believer.

[Forsher]

We've hit 100 deaths in NZ.

At this point I'm angry with most countries in the word for this fucking mess.

[Free Algerstonia]

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/597841-vermont-priest-removed-after-balking-at-covid-19-precautions

Vermont priest removed after balking at COVID-19 precautions

even the church has started pandering to the radical left

[Deblar]

We've hit 100 deaths in NZ.

At this point I'm angry with most countries in the word for this fucking mess.

You know what we call that in America? Rookie numbers. /j

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[New Visayan Islands]

Good.

He should have been more careful. After all, you don't have to go very high up his management chain before you get to God. His ideas about his rights imply he's not really a devout believer.

Considering that the bishop yanked him for failure to abide by COVID measures, I'm not surprised.

[The Alma Mater]

Two years into this epidemic and only today I learned that anti-vaxxers have been claiming "autism is caused by worms in the brain" for decades.

Well. Now I finally understand why they are in love with deworming medication.

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

We've hit 100 deaths in NZ.

At this point I'm angry with most countries in the word for this fucking mess.

You know what we call that in America? Rookie numbers. /j

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I was going to post this as well.

[The Sherpa Empire]

Two years into this epidemic and only today I learned that anti-vaxxers have been claiming "autism is caused by worms in the brain" for decades.

Well. Now I finally understand why they are in love with deworming medication.

That's a new one for me too.

[The Alma Mater]

The EMA has added cutane vasculitis to the list of possible side-effects from the Johnson/Janssen vaccine. 8 cases total are known.

[Celritannia]

The UK has seen an increase in infection rates.

Even my niece has COVID now.

It's almost as if lowering restrictions is bad.

[Grave_n_idle]

The EMA has added cutane vasculitis to the list of possible side-effects from the Johnson/Janssen vaccine. 8 cases total are known.

Just going to point out the usual things that should be obvious:

1) Possible/probable side-effects are listed whether or not there are any clear-cut cases definitively verifying a connection.
2) Cutaneous vasculitis is common - it can be triggered by all kinds of medications, health conditions, infections, etc.
3) Cutaneous vasculitis is generally mild. Complications are rare.
4) Even if all 8 cases were verifiably caused specifically by the vaccine, it's a minor side-effect - especially given the 2-3% case fatality rate for the virus it's vaccinating against.
5) Even if all 8 cases AND all the other 29 cases that are currently ruled out - even if they ALL turned out to be directly caused by the vaccine, that's 37 cases in 36 million shots. That means you're 4 times MORE LIKELY to get struck by a meteorite than you are to have this side-effect.
6) Even if it wasn't a one-in-a-million (literally) probability, cutaneous vasculitis is generally pretty easy to treat - it generally responds to corticosteroids.

[Kannap]

Covid deaths probably three times higher than records say

The brain shrinks after a coronavirus infection, according to a study.

We've hit 100 deaths in NZ.

At this point I'm angry with most countries in the word for this fucking mess.

You know what we call that in America? Rookie numbers. /j

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As much as I'd love to have a government that managed to do anything more than shrugging their shoulders and saying "if you die, you die," if Forsher lives in NZ and if what Lumen says about them recently giving up after managing the pandemic fairly well, then I can understand 100% why Forsher is angry.

[Kannap]

You should focus your effort for covid becoming endemic versus these political responses.

removing the mask mandate was a political move by the city council?

Are you suggesting it wasn't?

You have no "questions" that are not just incredibly annoying whinging.
So what is your endgame SL? 10k Americans drop dead in the streets every day so you can sit in a chair in some Broadway theatre?

Broadway is open and has been for several months now.

How do you feel about them continuing to require proof of vaccination and mask wearing?

Controlling the spread, duh. Just because it's been dropped everywhere else doesn't mean that masks should be dropped completely.

That doesn't justify not trying to limit the spread of COVID.

I dont see what point it serves when its only mandated on public transit.

It shouldn't be only mandated on public transit, it should be mandated pretty much everywhere to prevent cases from rising.

Then reinstate it elsewhere until cases, deaths, and hospitalizations are at a low and manageable level; you know, actually endemic.

Which isn't happening. Many places and countries have dropped it and are unlikely to bring it back but all those leaders are dumb to you.

They've eliminated the bare minimum common sense safety requirements in the midst of a pandemic where its proven that mask wearing seriously helps. If that isn't dumb, then I don't know what is.

Yes, because they're letting a virus with the ability to kill or permanently damage people run rampant for votes.

Or maybe they see you can't restrict society much longer over one virus. Support for mandates is no longer a majority.

why don't you run next time on this platform: years of social distancing and masks and call your opponents what you just said.

Will there ever be a day you see somebody complaining about government and do something other than waste their time with a recommendation that they run against the incumbent who has millions of dollars to throw at an election campaign?

dont worry about this my lad, once donald trump becomes potus in 2025 there will be no more efforts to do anything about covid19 and y'all soon be back at a "comfortable" 100,000 cases and two 9/11's a day.

Covid is unlikely to still be a pandemic in 2025. I have doubts Trump is even going to run.

I wouldn't be so sure. If you'd asked me in March 2020, I wouldn't have said COVID would still be a pandemic in March 2022, but here we are. It's going to continue being a pandemic for the foreseeable future if we continue on this path of not doing anything about it that our government seems hellbent on taking.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/597841-vermont-priest-removed-after-balking-at-covid-19-precautions

Vermont priest removed after balking at COVID-19 precautions

Not often I agree with something the Catholic church does, but bravo on this one.

[Kannap]

https://www.10tv.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/city-council-votes-end-mask-mandate-in-columbus/530-35a99e3d-5aef-40aa-aee2-92f91ab95705

Columbus, Ohio city council votes to end mask mandate.

Do we really need to hear about some city or town pulling the mask mandate?

We have to hear about every city, town, or post office that revokes its mask mandate because reasons.

[San Lumen]

removing the mask mandate was a political move by the city council?

Are you suggesting it wasn't?

Broadway is open and has been for several months now.

How do you feel about them continuing to require proof of vaccination and mask wearing?

I dont see what point it serves when its only mandated on public transit.

It shouldn't be only mandated on public transit, it should be mandated pretty much everywhere to prevent cases from rising.

Which isn't happening. Many places and countries have dropped it and are unlikely to bring it back but all those leaders are dumb to you.

They've eliminated the bare minimum common sense safety requirements in the midst of a pandemic where its proven that mask wearing seriously helps. If that isn't dumb, then I don't know what is.

Or maybe they see you can't restrict society much longer over one virus. Support for mandates is no longer a majority.

why don't you run next time on this platform: years of social distancing and masks and call your opponents what you just said.

Will there ever be a day you see somebody complaining about government and do something other than waste their time with a recommendation that they run against the incumbent who has millions of dollars to throw at an election campaign?

Covid is unlikely to still be a pandemic in 2025. I have doubts Trump is even going to run.

I wouldn't be so sure. If you'd asked me in March 2020, I wouldn't have said COVID would still be a pandemic in March 2022, but here we are. It's going to continue being a pandemic for the foreseeable future if we continue on this path of not doing anything about it that our government seems hellbent on taking.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/597841-vermont-priest-removed-after-balking-at-covid-19-precautions

Vermont priest removed after balking at COVID-19 precautions

Not often I agree with something the Catholic church does, but bravo on this one.

I don’t see how it was political. People are fatigued and want to move on with their lives.

So just about every executive worldwide is stupid to you?

Broadway still requiring masks and vaccination proof is silly when almost everywhere else has dropped it.

When if ever do we drop masks in your view? Cases will go up and down. It’s what a virus does.

I say for people to run on mask mandates or lockdowns and other measures because it’s a losing position now. People are done with mandates and want to live their lives.

[Hurdergaryp]

Do we really need to hear about some city or town pulling the mask mandate?

We have to hear about every city, town, or post office that revokes its mask mandate because reasons.

The best of reasons, even. Top quality reasons.

[Grave_n_idle]

We have to hear about every city, town, or post office that revokes its mask mandate because reasons.

The best of reasons, even. Top quality reasons.

People ask me about those reasons all the time. They come up to me, they say, sir, what are those reasons.

[Ifreann]

Are you suggesting it wasn't?



How do you feel about them continuing to require proof of vaccination and mask wearing?



It shouldn't be only mandated on public transit, it should be mandated pretty much everywhere to prevent cases from rising.



They've eliminated the bare minimum common sense safety requirements in the midst of a pandemic where its proven that mask wearing seriously helps. If that isn't dumb, then I don't know what is.



Will there ever be a day you see somebody complaining about government and do something other than waste their time with a recommendation that they run against the incumbent who has millions of dollars to throw at an election campaign?



I wouldn't be so sure. If you'd asked me in March 2020, I wouldn't have said COVID would still be a pandemic in March 2022, but here we are. It's going to continue being a pandemic for the foreseeable future if we continue on this path of not doing anything about it that our government seems hellbent on taking.



Not often I agree with something the Catholic church does, but bravo on this one.

I don’t see how it was political. People are fatigued and want to move on with their lives.

The politicians in government changed the law so as appeal to popular sentiment among their constituents, but it's not political!

[Vassenor]

Are you suggesting it wasn't?



How do you feel about them continuing to require proof of vaccination and mask wearing?



It shouldn't be only mandated on public transit, it should be mandated pretty much everywhere to prevent cases from rising.



They've eliminated the bare minimum common sense safety requirements in the midst of a pandemic where its proven that mask wearing seriously helps. If that isn't dumb, then I don't know what is.



Will there ever be a day you see somebody complaining about government and do something other than waste their time with a recommendation that they run against the incumbent who has millions of dollars to throw at an election campaign?



I wouldn't be so sure. If you'd asked me in March 2020, I wouldn't have said COVID would still be a pandemic in March 2022, but here we are. It's going to continue being a pandemic for the foreseeable future if we continue on this path of not doing anything about it that our government seems hellbent on taking.



Not often I agree with something the Catholic church does, but bravo on this one.

I don’t see how it was political. People are fatigued and want to move on with their lives.

So just about every executive worldwide is stupid to you?

Broadway still requiring masks and vaccination proof is silly when almost everywhere else has dropped it.

When if ever do we drop masks in your view? Cases will go up and down. It’s what a virus does.

I say for people to run on mask mandates or lockdowns and other measures because it’s a losing position now. People are done with mandates and want to live their lives.

Remember, just saying we're tired and want to move on will magically make the virus go away and promise very very nicely to never infect anyone ever again.

[San Lumen]

I don’t see how it was political. People are fatigued and want to move on with their lives.

So just about every executive worldwide is stupid to you?

Broadway still requiring masks and vaccination proof is silly when almost everywhere else has dropped it.

When if ever do we drop masks in your view? Cases will go up and down. It’s what a virus does.

I say for people to run on mask mandates or lockdowns and other measures because it’s a losing position now. People are done with mandates and want to live their lives.

Remember, just saying we're tired and want to move on will magically make the virus go away and promise very very nicely to never infect anyone ever again.

It’s never going away. It’s here to stay and we have to learn to live with it like every other pathogen in existence.

[Ifreann]

Remember, just saying we're tired and want to move on will magically make the virus go away and promise very very nicely to never infect anyone ever again.

It’s never going away. It’s here to stay and we have to learn to live with it like every other pathogen in existence.

Like polio and smallpox.

[San Lumen]

It’s never going away. It’s here to stay and we have to learn to live with it like every other pathogen in existence.

Like polio and smallpox.

Polio and smallpox don’t mutate the same way. Smallpox took hundreds of years to eradicate.