Coronavirus Thread VII: Jagged Little Pill (READ OP)

[Free Algerstonia]

Have you noticed how the media stopped going on and on and on about Covid, vaccines, supposed deaths and anti-vaxxers on an everyday basis ever since the ukraine crisis happened? At least where I live.

Huh. Crazy how a fresh new story can make a supposedly deadly pandemic become irrelevant.

it's because big pharma found new medicines to artifically price inflate. this time it is medicine to heal wounds

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

Have you noticed how the media stopped going on and on and on about Covid, vaccines, supposed deaths and anti-vaxxers on an everyday basis ever since the ukraine crisis happened? At least where I live.

Huh. Crazy how a fresh new story can make a supposedly deadly pandemic become irrelevant.

Maybe i don't read enough news, but i've seen very few coronavirus articles since like, the end of 2020.
Besides new variants and such.
I think everyone just got sick of it, I kinda did too.
I literally forgot there was a pandemic for a bit, or at least it just seems like a normal part of life now, IDK.

[The Alma Mater]

Have you noticed how the media stopped going on and on and on about Covid, vaccines, supposed deaths and anti-vaxxers on an everyday basis ever since the ukraine crisis happened? At least where I live.

Huh. Crazy how a fresh new story can make a supposedly deadly pandemic become irrelevant.

When the USA hits a million deaths later this month it will no doubt resurface.
But in most western countries the pandemic has been contained. Restrictions are lifted. Hospitals are still filled with covid patients; but it is a manageable 20 percent instead of 90.

[Caleonia]

Have you noticed how the media stopped going on and on and on about Covid, vaccines, supposed deaths and anti-vaxxers on an everyday basis ever since the ukraine crisis happened? At least where I live.

Huh. Crazy how a fresh new story can make a supposedly deadly pandemic become irrelevant.

When the USA hits a million deaths later this month it will no doubt resurface.
But in most western countries the pandemic has been contained. Restrictions are lifted. Hospitals are still filled with covid patients; but it is a manageable 20 percent instead of 90.

While I’m not as extreme as, say, Vassenor or Grave, I still think that number can be improved. However it is a good sign.

[Caleonia]

I quite like this take on masks and antimaskers. I've always thought that a lot of the Capitol stormers could have made it harder to identify them, and thus harder to prosecute, if they had just. worn. a. mask

Well, that, and if they hadn't been so liberal

Which is funnily enough exactly what they don’t want to be

[The Alma Mater]

The point of the vaccine was to ensure that any breakthrough infection would be significantly less likely to hospitalise or kill you. From the sounds of things it did its job perfectly.

Wrong. I died little over a month ago.

Be certain to submit "being able to communicate from the afterlife" to VAERS as a vaccine side-effect.

[Vassenor]

Covid can shrink brain and damage its tissue, finds research

The first major study to compare brain scans of people before and after they catch Covid has revealed shrinkage and tissue damage in regions linked to smell and mental capacities months after subjects tested positive.

It comes as the largest study to date of the genetics of Covid-19 identified 16 new genetic variants associated with severe illness, and named a number of existing drugs that could be repurposed to prevent patients from getting severely ill, some of which are already in clinical trials.

Together, these studies shed new light on the biological mechanisms that underpin the disease.

In the brain study, researchers at the University of Oxford studied 785 people aged between 51 and 81 who had received brain scans before and during the pandemic as part of the UK Biobank study. More than half of them tested positive for Covid between the two scans.

Compared with 384 uninfected control subjects, those who tested positive for Covid had greater overall brain shrinkage and more grey matter shrinkage, particularly in areas linked to smell. For example, those who had Covid lost an additional 1.8% of the parahippocampal gyrus, a key region for smell, and an additional 0.8% of the cerebellum, compared with control subjects.

Disrupted signal processing in such areas may contribute to symptoms such as smell loss. Those who were infected also typically scored lower on a mental skills test than uninfected individuals. Lower scores were associated with a greater loss of brain tissue in the parts of the cerebellum involved in mental ability.

The effects were more pronounced in older people and those hospitalised by the disease, but still evident in others whose infections were mild or asymptomatic, the research suggested, which was published in the journal Nature.

Further scans are needed to determine whether these brain changes are permanent or partially reversible.

“The brain is plastic, which means that it can re-organise and heal itself to some extent, even in older people,” said Prof Gwenaëlle Douaud at the University of Oxford.

In separate research also published in Nature, researchers led by Dr Kenneth Baillie, a consultant in critical care medicine at the University of Edinburgh, sequenced the genomes of 7,491 Covid patients admitted to intensive care units in the UK. Researchers compared their DNA with that of 48,400 people who had not been infected, plus the DNA of a further 1,630 people who experienced mild Covid.

The study identified 16 new genetic variants associated with admission to intensive care, including genes implicated in blood clotting, the immune system and the intensity of inflammation.

It also confirmed the involvement of seven other genes that the team identified in earlier studies, and which contributed to the rheumatoid arthritis drug baricitinib being tested on Covid patients. Data published last week showed that it reduced the risk of death from severe Covid by about a fifth, demonstrating “proof of principle that we can find new treatments using genetics”, Baillie said.

Among the new variants identified is a small change in GM-CSF, a protein that helps to activate immune cells in the lungs after infection. A drug targeting this gene, otilimab, is being tested in people with Covid. “To have a genetic signal close to this gene gives us more confidence that this is a valid target,” said Baillie.

Others included variations in genes that control the levels of a central component of blood clotting – known as Factor VIII – which is disrupted in the most common type of the inherited bleeding disorder haemophilia. Abnormal clotting in response to Covid could result in reduced oxygen supply to critical organs, Baillie explained.

“These results explain why some people develop life-threatening Covid-19, while others get no symptoms at all. But more importantly, this gives us a deep understanding of the process of disease and is a big step forward in finding more effective treatments,” he added.

“It is now true to say that we understand the mechanisms of Covid better than the other syndromes we treat in intensive care in normal times – sepsis, flu, and other forms of critical illness. Covid-19 is showing us the way to tackle those problems in the future.”

But remember, it was all just a flu with no long term consequences.

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Vass, you are being completely disingenuous by leaving out the context that basically every disease in the universe, including the regular flu and including the common cold, occasionally inflicts permanent damage on an unlucky few.

You're making it sound like in all the history of the Earth, disease worked like you either survive it unscathed or you die, but suddenly for the first time ever, there's a brand new disease that causes lasting damage to survivors.

Also, what is your point? The virus is here, it's part of the ecosystem. All the countries of the world could implement total martial law for the next 2 months and use flamethrowers and drones to kill anyone who walks out their front door, and guess what, next year, there will be millions and millions of infections anyway! You may as well post a new study about skin cancer and whine that no one even wants to try moving the whole human species underground.

[Grave_n_idle]

Vass, you are being completely disingenuous by leaving out the context that basically every disease in the universe, including the regular flu and including the common cold, occasionally inflicts permanent damage on an unlucky few.

You're making it sound like in all the history of the Earth, disease worked like you either survive it unscathed or you die, but suddenly for the first time ever, there's a brand new disease that causes lasting damage to survivors.

Honestly, that sounds like baggage you're bringing to it.

Remember back to the beginning of the pandemic, and people saying that covid wasn't serious because it 'only' killed about 3% of the people that got it, and it was a really hard push for the medical community to MAKE people understand that just because you didn't DIE from covid, didn't mean you suddenly got BETTER.

First, it came out that covid was permanently screwing people's lungs up - that's when we first collectively got to understand that there even WAS such a thing as 'long covid'. Then it was confirmed that covid was destroying heart tissue. Then some minor stuff - extended brain fog lasting months (maybe years, now) after infection, extended loss of smell and taste, or apparently permanently altered sense of smell and taste. Now it's being confirmed that covid can damage brain tissue.

This virus that was being trivialized at the start has turned out to not only be quite deadly, but also to be doing a number on patients that DO survive it. That's the take-home knowledge, here.

[Ifreann]

Vass, you are being completely disingenuous by leaving out the context that basically every disease in the universe, including the regular flu and including the common cold, occasionally inflicts permanent damage on an unlucky few.

You're making it sound like in all the history of the Earth, disease worked like you either survive it unscathed or you die, but suddenly for the first time ever, there's a brand new disease that causes lasting damage to survivors.

Honestly, that sounds like baggage you're bringing to it.

Remember back to the beginning of the pandemic, and people saying that covid wasn't serious because it 'only' killed about 3% of the people that got it, and it was a really hard push for the medical community to MAKE people understand that just because you didn't DIE from covid, didn't mean you suddenly got BETTER.

First, it came out that covid was permanently screwing people's lungs up - that's when we first collectively got to understand that there even WAS such a thing as 'long covid'. Then it was confirmed that covid was destroying heart tissue. Then some minor stuff - extended brain fog lasting months (maybe years, now) after infection, extended loss of smell and taste, or apparently permanently altered sense of smell and taste. Now it's being confirmed that covid can damage brain tissue.

This virus that was being trivialized at the start has turned out to not only be quite deadly, but also to be doing a number on patients that DO survive it. That's the take-home knowledge, here.

Quick google tells me that some 448 million people have contracted covid. Less that 6 million who died, that's a lot of people who could be facing series health problems.

[Grave_n_idle]

Honestly, that sounds like baggage you're bringing to it.

Remember back to the beginning of the pandemic, and people saying that covid wasn't serious because it 'only' killed about 3% of the people that got it, and it was a really hard push for the medical community to MAKE people understand that just because you didn't DIE from covid, didn't mean you suddenly got BETTER.

First, it came out that covid was permanently screwing people's lungs up - that's when we first collectively got to understand that there even WAS such a thing as 'long covid'. Then it was confirmed that covid was destroying heart tissue. Then some minor stuff - extended brain fog lasting months (maybe years, now) after infection, extended loss of smell and taste, or apparently permanently altered sense of smell and taste. Now it's being confirmed that covid can damage brain tissue.

This virus that was being trivialized at the start has turned out to not only be quite deadly, but also to be doing a number on patients that DO survive it. That's the take-home knowledge, here.

Quick google tells me that some 448 million people have contracted covid. Less that 6 million who died, that's a lot of people who could be facing series health problems.

Indeed. We really have no idea what the long-term consequences of this pandemic are going to be, not least because our decisions have largely been made by career politicians and laypersons.

[The Black Forrest]

Vass, you are being completely disingenuous by leaving out the context that basically every disease in the universe, including the regular flu and including the common cold, occasionally inflicts permanent damage on an unlucky few.

You're making it sound like in all the history of the Earth, disease worked like you either survive it unscathed or you die, but suddenly for the first time ever, there's a brand new disease that causes lasting damage to survivors.

Also, what is your point? The virus is here, it's part of the ecosystem. All the countries of the world could implement total martial law for the next 2 months and use flamethrowers and drones to kill anyone who walks out their front door, and guess what, next year, there will be millions and millions of infections anyway! You may as well post a new study about skin cancer and whine that no one even wants to try moving the whole human species underground.

Is she? “It’s Just a bad flu/cold” has been a common refrain of the anti-vax.

You really going to compare covid to the common cold?

Seriously dude, you joining the anti-vax crowd and tell everybody it’s not that bad. Deal with it?

[Prima Scriptura]

Has it been mentioned on this thread that the surgeon general in Florida has officially recommended that healthy children do not get vaccinated for COVID-19?

This man needs to have his license revoked and I would go far to say that he deserves prison time for encouraging reckless behavior and endangering the health of Floridians. This man is not a doctor, he’s a fucking politician.

[Izandai]

Has it been mentioned on this thread that the surgeon general in Florida has officially recommended that healthy children do not get vaccinated for COVID-19?

This man needs to have his license revoked and I would go far to say that he deserves prison time for encouraging reckless behavior and endangering the health of Floridians. This man is not a doctor, he’s a fucking politician.

Agreed. Fuck this state so hard.

[Deblar]

Has it been mentioned on this thread that the surgeon general in Florida has officially recommended that healthy children do not get vaccinated for COVID-19?

This man needs to have his license revoked and I would go far to say that he deserves prison time for encouraging reckless behavior and endangering the health of Floridians. This man is not a doctor, he’s a fucking politician.

Sinking them into the Caribbean is still on the table here, folks.

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Has it been mentioned on this thread that the surgeon general in Florida has officially recommended that healthy children do not get vaccinated for COVID-19?

This man needs to have his license revoked and I would go far to say that he deserves prison time for encouraging reckless behavior and endangering the health of Floridians. This man is not a doctor, he’s a fucking politician.

Agreed. Fuck this state so hard.

Don't expect things to change any time soon. Florida has received a massive population influx of upper-middle class and affluent Americans who moved both for lower taxes (there being no state income tax in Florida) and to escape long-term pandemic restrictions of their home states. My aunt and uncle from New Jersey moved to my hometown last year for that very reason. My mom who works at a Catholic school says she has gotten calls for enrollment from parents who had bought a house in Florida without ever even seeing it. Florida, simply put, isn't purple anymore.

[Nioya]

Today I saw my doctor and talked to him about my post Covid symptoms including depression. I lost 25 pounds apparently. Was not expecting that. He thinks I have some allergy and possibly pneumonia in my lungs. Still crying regularly about not getting my booster. He asked me about my depression symptoms and prescribed me Zoloft. I asked him if there's any consolation he could give as a medical professional. He said "it's like spilled milk...you can't change it...I talk to a lot of people who ask me about the booster and I tell them to get it because there's a lot of evidence after 4 months the antibodies in your system go down....now you will know to follow the cdc reminders... and to get the fourth shot they're talking about in a few months.....there was a lot of confusing information about boosters....at least you were vaccinated. Just imagine how bad things would be if you didn't have the two shots." Parts I found consoling.

[Hamidiye]

Has it been mentioned on this thread that the surgeon general in Florida has officially recommended that healthy children do not get vaccinated for COVID-19?

This man needs to have his license revoked and I would go far to say that he deserves prison time for encouraging reckless behavior and endangering the health of Floridians. This man is not a doctor, he’s a fucking politician.

Does this man not understand what a vaccination is? Or even remotely how it works? Or is he such a corrupt b*** that he wilfully exchanges death for popularity? The f**k is wrong with your country?!

[Vassenor]

Has it been mentioned on this thread that the surgeon general in Florida has officially recommended that healthy children do not get vaccinated for COVID-19?

This man needs to have his license revoked and I would go far to say that he deserves prison time for encouraging reckless behavior and endangering the health of Floridians. This man is not a doctor, he’s a fucking politician.

Does this man not understand what a vaccination is? Or even remotely how it works? Or is he such a corrupt b*** that he wilfully exchanges death for popularity? The f**k is wrong with your country?!

This is what happens when you make a position that should be filled by an impartial SME subject to political whims.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Has it been mentioned on this thread that the surgeon general in Florida has officially recommended that healthy children do not get vaccinated for COVID-19?

This man needs to have his license revoked and I would go far to say that he deserves prison time for encouraging reckless behavior and endangering the health of Floridians. This man is not a doctor, he’s a fucking politician.

Yet another oligarch...

[The Alma Mater]

Has it been mentioned on this thread that the surgeon general in Florida has officially recommended that healthy children do not get vaccinated for COVID-19?

This man needs to have his license revoked and I would go far to say that he deserves prison time for encouraging reckless behavior and endangering the health of Floridians. This man is not a doctor, he’s a fucking politician.

Does this man not understand what a vaccination is? Or even remotely how it works? Or is he such a corrupt b*** that he wilfully exchanges death for popularity? The f**k is wrong with your country?!

The man IS a board certified medical doctor who has also worked for the FDA. So the b** option.

[Vassenor]

Does this man not understand what a vaccination is? Or even remotely how it works? Or is he such a corrupt b*** that he wilfully exchanges death for popularity? The f**k is wrong with your country?!

The man IS a board certified medical doctor who has also worked for the FDA. So the b** option.

Yeah this feels like a “toe the party line or lose your job” bit.

[San Lumen]

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/03/08/us/h ... index.html

Hawaii will drop its mask mandate this month, the last state in the nation to do so

[Holy Tedalonia]

Has it been mentioned on this thread that the surgeon general in Florida has officially recommended that healthy children do not get vaccinated for COVID-19?

This man needs to have his license revoked and I would go far to say that he deserves prison time for encouraging reckless behavior and endangering the health of Floridians. This man is not a doctor, he’s a fucking politician.

Does this man not understand what a vaccination is? Or even remotely how it works? Or is he such a corrupt b*** that he wilfully exchanges death for popularity? The f**k is wrong with your country?!

It's Florida. The people get drunk down there and wrestle alligators. If those people don't take shit from nature, you sure as hell have people who won't take shit from the government. Unless its welfare.

[Tinhampton]

Austria's coronavirus vaccine mandate has been consigned to the recycle bin of history. Recycle bin.