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Should those wilfully unvaccinated against COVID-19 receive a lower priority for hospital treatment?

YES, ALWAYS - vaccination should be a basic precaution to protect your health and that of society
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YES, BUT JUST FOR COVID-19 - you shouldn't get COVID treatment if you don't want to be safe from it
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NO, NEVER - healthcare should be based on the patient's need, not their circumstances
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Postby Canada CA » Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:54 am

PALEOCONSERVATIVE BEAST MODE

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Postby Diahon » Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:57 am



yes, sending an employee out to the hospital for doing their job when they could've complained to people higher up the totem pole

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Postby Canada CA » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:00 am

Diahon wrote:
Canada CA wrote:Talk about beast mode.


yes, sending an employee out to the hospital for doing their job when they could've complained to people higher up the totem pole

At my job, its the opposite.

Sometimes, a member of the public will whine to us that we aren't wearing masks.

To which I'll tell them where to go, of course.
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St Robin
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Postby St Robin » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:01 am


I wouldn't call assault "beast mode."

There is no reason to harm another human being because of their opinions.

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:01 am



So apparently it's good to beat the shit out of a minimum wage worker for having the temerity to ask you to put cloth over your face. I swear the anti-maskers are getting more and more fragile as time goes on.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:02 am

Canada CA wrote:
Diahon wrote:
yes, sending an employee out to the hospital for doing their job when they could've complained to people higher up the totem pole

At my job, its the opposite.

Sometimes, a member of the public will whine to us that we aren't wearing masks.

To which I'll tell them where to go, of course.

This bragging is fairly immoral. Esp. in the current context.
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Postby Diahon » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:03 am

Canada CA wrote:
Diahon wrote:
yes, sending an employee out to the hospital for doing their job when they could've complained to people higher up the totem pole

At my job, its the opposite.

Sometimes, a member of the public will whine to us that we aren't wearing masks.

To which I'll tell them where to go, of course.

at some place where management cares enough about its clientele to put up an effort to acknowledge the severity this ongoing pandemic can put them through, assuredly

or are you advocating "beast mode" for staff in response to customer concerns?
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Postby Canada CA » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:07 am

Diahon wrote:
Canada CA wrote:At my job, its the opposite.

Sometimes, a member of the public will whine to us that we aren't wearing masks.

To which I'll tell them where to go, of course.

at some place where management cares enough about its clientele to put up an effort to acknowledge the severity this ongoing pandemic can put them through, assuredly

or are you advocating "beast mode" for staff in response to customer concerns?

I am indeed advocating beast mode.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:09 am

Canada CA wrote:
Diahon wrote:at some place where management cares enough about its clientele to put up an effort to acknowledge the severity this ongoing pandemic can put them through, assuredly

or are you advocating "beast mode" for staff in response to customer concerns?

I am indeed advocating beast mode.



Being so against COVID hysteria that you want people to get hysterical and violent over being asked to put cloth over their face.
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Postby Dakini » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:09 am

Canada CA wrote:
Diahon wrote:at some place where management cares enough about its clientele to put up an effort to acknowledge the severity this ongoing pandemic can put them through, assuredly

or are you advocating "beast mode" for staff in response to customer concerns?

I am indeed advocating beast mode.

Gross.

But also not surprising from someone who started posting three days ago.

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Postby Diahon » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:11 am

Canada CA wrote:
Diahon wrote:at some place where management cares enough about its clientele to put up an effort to acknowledge the severity this ongoing pandemic can put them through, assuredly

or are you advocating "beast mode" for staff in response to customer concerns?

I am indeed advocating beast mode.

so lucky to wish for death without actually seeing people die before you

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Postby St Robin » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:12 am

Dakini wrote:
Canada CA wrote:I am indeed advocating beast mode.

Gross.

But also not surprising from someone who started posting three days ago.

Their posts do look a bit baity to me, and I did notice they were founded 3 days ago.

Though this is coming from someone who just founded their country a couple hours ago, but I intend to use this forum for respectful and beneficial discussion, unlike this individual.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:12 am

Canada CA wrote:
Diahon wrote:at some place where management cares enough about its clientele to put up an effort to acknowledge the severity this ongoing pandemic can put them through, assuredly

or are you advocating "beast mode" for staff in response to customer concerns?

I am indeed advocating beast mode.

You understand that assault and battery are crimes right?
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Postby North Washington Republic » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:13 am

Canada CA wrote:
Diahon wrote:at some place where management cares enough about its clientele to put up an effort to acknowledge the severity this ongoing pandemic can put them through, assuredly

or are you advocating "beast mode" for staff in response to customer concerns?

I am indeed advocating beast mode.


I hope they treat you nice and gentle when they remove you from their property. ;)
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Postby St Robin » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:14 am

Vassenor wrote:Being so against COVID hysteria that you want people to get hysterical and violent over being asked to put cloth over their face.

This is something I've noticed is incredibly ironic. Those who claim to be against the hysteria and panic caused by the COVID-19 Pandemic are the same people who throw temper tantrums, assault people, and constantly freak out about conspiracies regarding masks, vaccinations, and anything remotely sensible.

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Postby North Washington Republic » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:15 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Canada CA wrote:I am indeed advocating beast mode.

You understand that assault and battery are crimes right?


Don’t you get it? It’s only a crime when the left does it. :roll:
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:15 am

So, hypothetical question: If these people come with the intention of assaulting others is it ok to shoot them until the threat ceases?
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Postby Canada CA » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:16 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So, hypothetical question: If these people come with the intention of assaulting others is it ok to shoot them until the threat ceases?

Normally, you'd say no.

But because the perpetrator is evil anti-maskeur, you'll be fine with it.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:17 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So, hypothetical question: If these people come with the intention of assaulting others is it ok to shoot them until the threat ceases?


Some states has stand your ground laws, so if employee of a private business feels threaten by a customer who refuses to wear a mask or confirm their vaccination status….it’s bang bang!
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Postby Diahon » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:17 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So, hypothetical question: If these people come with the intention of assaulting others is it ok to shoot them until the threat ceases?

legally, it should be in some states
morally, use a gun as a last resort
you owe it to your customers to not shed blood unless absolutely necessary, and you owe it to humanity to see them not die over lies fostered by others on the take
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:17 am

Canada CA wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So, hypothetical question: If these people come with the intention of assaulting others is it ok to shoot them until the threat ceases?

Normally, you'd say no.

But because the perpetrator is evil anti-maskeur, you'll be fine with it.

I'm pretty ok with putting 9 mm PB in attackers for self defence actually.
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Postby Canada CA » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:20 am

North Washington Republic wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So, hypothetical question: If these people come with the intention of assaulting others is it ok to shoot them until the threat ceases?


Some states has stand your ground laws, so if employee of a private business feels threaten by a customer who refuses to wear a mask or confirm their vaccination status….it’s bang bang!

Hardly hiding your elation at being able to murder the evil anti-maskers.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Canada CA wrote:Normally, you'd say no.

But because the perpetrator is evil anti-maskeur, you'll be fine with it.

I'm pretty ok with putting 9 mm PB in attackers for self defence actually.

9 mm PB? Wow! You know your firearms.

Either way, I don't think you would be. You'd likely be the first to start protesting if a police officer shoots dead a guy running around with a machete.
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Postby St Robin » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:20 am

Canada CA wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So, hypothetical question: If these people come with the intention of assaulting others is it ok to shoot them until the threat ceases?

Normally, you'd say no.

But because the perpetrator is evil anti-maskeur, you'll be fine with it.

I'm not sure what you're talking about, it seems like you're just putting words in their mouth.

The hypothetical is not specific enough to determine the legality of shooting the individuals intending to assault you. In the terms of an ethical or moral question, legality can be quite important. I would prefer not to take the life of another person, which is also ironically why I wear a mask and am fully vaccinated.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:20 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So, hypothetical question: If these people come with the intention of assaulting others is it ok to shoot them until the threat ceases?


Good question. What was the verdict on mr Rittenhouse ?
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:20 am

People assuming things about others is just about the most uncouth thing possible.
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