Coronavirus Thread VII: Jagged Little Pill (READ OP)

[Kannap]

Very early doors, on March 15, 2020, Lumen said we were overreacted. Looking at New York's response, the only things that had happened before that day? State of emergency was declared March 7th, Cuomo ordered a containment zone in New Rochelle, NY on March 10th, all SUNY campuses ordered to close on March 12th, all gatherings of less than 500 ordered to cut capacity in half on March 12th while all gatherings over 500 people ordered to cancel. All NYC schools ordered to close until April 20th on March 15th.

New York has had 2.3 million cases and just over 54,000 deaths. 1.04 million/33,895 of those being in New York City. And that's despite the measures to stop the spread of the virus and keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed.

Just for reference, a pile of 54,000 human skulls would be approximately 12m tall, about 40ft. Just an interesting visualisation people might want to consider.

Ah, but surely we overreacted. I mean, who wants to save lives?

[Ifreann]

New York has had 2.3 million cases and just over 54,000 deaths. 1.04 million/33,895 of those being in New York City. And that's despite the measures to stop the spread of the virus and keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed.

Just for reference, a pile of 54,000 human skulls would be approximately 12m tall, about 40ft. Just an interesting visualisation people might want to consider.

Ah, but surely we overreacted. I mean, who wants to save lives?

Has anyone even counted how many Broadway shows were cancelled? That's the real casualty list.

[Kannap]

Same. I wasn't wearing a mask beforehand but I'm going to start wearing a mask again. I'm scared of COVID-19 now because my county has hit record number of cases.

That's the sort of risk-benefit analysis governments should be encouraging. It's a personal health decision, and the people who are arsey with people for deciding differently to them, on both sides of the fence, are the problem.

Except when those people who aren't vaccinated/aren't wearing masks/aren't social distancing are out and about spreading the virus to other people - who may be following guidelines and being safe as possible in public when they need to go out - it becomes a public health issue, not a personal one.

[Great Algerstonia]

Same. I wasn't wearing a mask beforehand but I'm going to start wearing a mask again. I'm scared of COVID-19 now because my county has hit record number of cases.

That's the sort of risk-benefit analysis governments should be encouraging. It's a personal health decision, and the people who are arsey with people for deciding differently to them, on both sides of the fence, are the problem.

Indeed, all health decisions related to COVID-19 should be a personal choice. It is truly up to the individual, and the government has no right to keep me locked inside my home or show proof of vaccinations to businesses (the business themselves do though).

[Kannap]

Ah, but surely we overreacted. I mean, who wants to save lives?

Has anyone even counted how many Broadway shows were cancelled? That's the real casualty list.

As of January 2021, turns out yes.

The [probably not exhaustive] list:

- Hangmen, closed: Set to open March 19, 2020; played 13 preview performances and was announced on March 20th it would not reopen.

- Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?, closed: Set to open April 9, 2020; played 9 preview performances and was announced closed on march 21st.

- Flying Over Sunset, postponed: Set to open April 16, 2020, it was announced March 24th that it would be pushed back to Fall 2020, then it got pushed to Spring 2021, currently it's scheduled to open December 13th, 2021.

- Birthday Candles, postponed: Set to open April 2020, it was announced in March that it would be pushed back to fall 2021, it's currently scheduled for an April 10, 2022 opening.

- Caroline, or Change, postponed: The April 7, 2020 opening was shelved. Currently scheduled to open October 8, 2021

- How I Learned to Drive, postponed: Was set to open April 22, 2020 but on April 7th, it was announced postponed. It is currently scheduled to open April 19. 2022.

- Beetlejuice, closed: Opened in 2019 and performed 366 shows before it's last show on March 10, 2020 due to COVID. Was due to close in June 2020 anyway, so not sure we can entirely contribute the closure of this one to COVID. A national tour is planned for fall 2021.

- Plaza Suite, postponed: Set to open April 2020, was postponed to March 2021. Currently scheduled for a February 2022 opening.

- MJ: The Musical, postponed: Set to open August 2020, postponed to spring 2021. Currently scheduled for a December 2021 opening.

- Frozen, closed: Opened in 2018, Frozen was the first long-running Broadway production to close due to the pandemic after 825 performances. In May 2020, Disney announced Frozen would not return to Broadway until the pandemic ends. A Tokyo production opened on June 24, 2021. The West End production began showing previews August 27 and is set to open September 8, 2021. A Hamburg production is scheduled to open November 2021. A national U.S. tour is scheduled for 2022.

- The Music Man, postponed: Set for an October 2020 opening. Currently scheduled to open February 2022.

- Mean Girls, closed: Opened in 2018, the pandemic closed it after 805 performances. On January 7, 2021, producers announced the show would not reopen.

- Hamilton, postponed: Shows stopped because of the pandemic, presently performances are scheduled to begin on September 14, 2021.

- The Tony Awards, postponed indefinitely

[Kannap]

That's the sort of risk-benefit analysis governments should be encouraging. It's a personal health decision, and the people who are arsey with people for deciding differently to them, on both sides of the fence, are the problem.

Indeed, all health decisions related to COVID-19 should be a personal choice. It is truly up to the individual, and the government has no right to keep me locked inside my home or show proof of vaccinations to businesses (the business themselves do though).

The decision to drink and drive should be a personal choice. It is truly up to the individual, and law enforcement representatives of the government have no right to stop me or lock me up for driving while drunk.

At least, I imagine some people probably said that when the government started introducing DUI laws.

[Celritannia]

Its like we have said this countless times.

Until 99% of the population have been vaccinated.

Anyway, why is wearing a mask so bad? You have not given any real answer for it.

It’s unlikely you’ll reach that number anywhere. Facial communication is part of being human.

We'll reach it.

I've provided links to masks with transparent parts on them.
That's not a problem.
So again, no real answer.

[Celritannia]

Its like we have said this countless times.

Until 99% of the population have been vaccinated.

Anyway, why is wearing a mask so bad? You have not given any real answer for it.

I'm not sure we're ever going to see 99 % vaccination rates, even if it becomes very difficult to live life well without a vaccine.

99? Ah, it was supposed to be 90%

[Ifreann]

Has anyone even counted how many Broadway shows were cancelled? That's the real casualty list.

As of January 2021, turns out yes.

The [probably not exhaustive] list:

- Hangmen, closed: Set to open March 19, 2020; played 13 preview performances and was announced on March 20th it would not reopen.

- Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?, closed: Set to open April 9, 2020; played 9 preview performances and was announced closed on march 21st.

- Flying Over Sunset, postponed: Set to open April 16, 2020, it was announced March 24th that it would be pushed back to Fall 2020, then it got pushed to Spring 2021, currently it's scheduled to open December 13th, 2021.

- Birthday Candles, postponed: Set to open April 2020, it was announced in March that it would be pushed back to fall 2021, it's currently scheduled for an April 10, 2022 opening.

- Caroline, or Change, postponed: The April 7, 2020 opening was shelved. Currently scheduled to open October 8, 2021

- How I Learned to Drive, postponed: Was set to open April 22, 2020 but on April 7th, it was announced postponed. It is currently scheduled to open April 19. 2022.

- Beetlejuice, closed: Opened in 2019 and performed 366 shows before it's last show on March 10, 2020 due to COVID. Was due to close in June 2020 anyway, so not sure we can entirely contribute the closure of this one to COVID. A national tour is planned for fall 2021.

- Plaza Suite, postponed: Set to open April 2020, was postponed to March 2021. Currently scheduled for a February 2022 opening.

- MJ: The Musical, postponed: Set to open August 2020, postponed to spring 2021. Currently scheduled for a December 2021 opening.

- Frozen, closed: Opened in 2018, Frozen was the first long-running Broadway production to close due to the pandemic after 825 performances. In May 2020, Disney announced Frozen would not return to Broadway until the pandemic ends. A Tokyo production opened on June 24, 2021. The West End production began showing previews August 27 and is set to open September 8, 2021. A Hamburg production is scheduled to open November 2021. A national U.S. tour is scheduled for 2022.

- The Music Man, postponed: Set for an October 2020 opening. Currently scheduled to open February 2022.

- Mean Girls, closed: Opened in 2018, the pandemic closed it after 805 performances. On January 7, 2021, producers announced the show would not reopen.

- Hamilton, postponed: Shows stopped because of the pandemic, presently performances are scheduled to begin on September 14, 2021.

- The Tony Awards, postponed indefinitely

Someone gotta put these together into one of those black and white In Memoriam videos.

[Dylar]

As of January 2021, turns out yes.

The [probably not exhaustive] list:

- Hangmen, closed: Set to open March 19, 2020; played 13 preview performances and was announced on March 20th it would not reopen.

- Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?, closed: Set to open April 9, 2020; played 9 preview performances and was announced closed on march 21st.

- Flying Over Sunset, postponed: Set to open April 16, 2020, it was announced March 24th that it would be pushed back to Fall 2020, then it got pushed to Spring 2021, currently it's scheduled to open December 13th, 2021.

- Birthday Candles, postponed: Set to open April 2020, it was announced in March that it would be pushed back to fall 2021, it's currently scheduled for an April 10, 2022 opening.

- Caroline, or Change, postponed: The April 7, 2020 opening was shelved. Currently scheduled to open October 8, 2021

- How I Learned to Drive, postponed: Was set to open April 22, 2020 but on April 7th, it was announced postponed. It is currently scheduled to open April 19. 2022.

- Beetlejuice, closed: Opened in 2019 and performed 366 shows before it's last show on March 10, 2020 due to COVID. Was due to close in June 2020 anyway, so not sure we can entirely contribute the closure of this one to COVID. A national tour is planned for fall 2021.

- Plaza Suite, postponed: Set to open April 2020, was postponed to March 2021. Currently scheduled for a February 2022 opening.

- MJ: The Musical, postponed: Set to open August 2020, postponed to spring 2021. Currently scheduled for a December 2021 opening.

- Frozen, closed: Opened in 2018, Frozen was the first long-running Broadway production to close due to the pandemic after 825 performances. In May 2020, Disney announced Frozen would not return to Broadway until the pandemic ends. A Tokyo production opened on June 24, 2021. The West End production began showing previews August 27 and is set to open September 8, 2021. A Hamburg production is scheduled to open November 2021. A national U.S. tour is scheduled for 2022.

- The Music Man, postponed: Set for an October 2020 opening. Currently scheduled to open February 2022.

- Mean Girls, closed: Opened in 2018, the pandemic closed it after 805 performances. On January 7, 2021, producers announced the show would not reopen.

- Hamilton, postponed: Shows stopped because of the pandemic, presently performances are scheduled to begin on September 14, 2021.

- The Tony Awards, postponed indefinitely

Someone gotta put these together into one of those black and white In Memoriam videos.

Well, I did a picture, so hopefully that suffices

[Ifreann]

Big mood. Alexa, play Despacito.

[CoraSpia]

Do I? It's a pain in the arse, especially when meeting new people.

What's a little arse pain to keep the skull pile under 15m?

There are far better reasons to develop arse pain.

[New Visayan Islands]

Someone gotta put these together into one of those black and white In Memoriam videos.

Well, I did a picture, so hopefully that suffices

Point of order: it's Requiescant (note the underlined n) for multiples.

Anyway, more Coof-related political drama here.

[Ethel mermania]

Has anyone even counted how many Broadway shows were cancelled? That's the real casualty list.

As of January 2021, turns out yes.

The [probably not exhaustive] list:

- Hangmen, closed: Set to open March 19, 2020; played 13 preview performances and was announced on March 20th it would not reopen.

- Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?, closed: Set to open April 9, 2020; played 9 preview performances and was announced closed on march 21st.

- Flying Over Sunset, postponed: Set to open April 16, 2020, it was announced March 24th that it would be pushed back to Fall 2020, then it got pushed to Spring 2021, currently it's scheduled to open December 13th, 2021.

- Birthday Candles, postponed: Set to open April 2020, it was announced in March that it would be pushed back to fall 2021, it's currently scheduled for an April 10, 2022 opening.

- Caroline, or Change, postponed: The April 7, 2020 opening was shelved. Currently scheduled to open October 8, 2021

- How I Learned to Drive, postponed: Was set to open April 22, 2020 but on April 7th, it was announced postponed. It is currently scheduled to open April 19. 2022.

- Beetlejuice, closed: Opened in 2019 and performed 366 shows before it's last show on March 10, 2020 due to COVID. Was due to close in June 2020 anyway, so not sure we can entirely contribute the closure of this one to COVID. A national tour is planned for fall 2021.

- Plaza Suite, postponed: Set to open April 2020, was postponed to March 2021. Currently scheduled for a February 2022 opening.

- MJ: The Musical, postponed: Set to open August 2020, postponed to spring 2021. Currently scheduled for a December 2021 opening.

- Frozen, closed: Opened in 2018, Frozen was the first long-running Broadway production to close due to the pandemic after 825 performances. In May 2020, Disney announced Frozen would not return to Broadway until the pandemic ends. A Tokyo production opened on June 24, 2021. The West End production began showing previews August 27 and is set to open September 8, 2021. A Hamburg production is scheduled to open November 2021. A national U.S. tour is scheduled for 2022.

- The Music Man, postponed: Set for an October 2020 opening. Currently scheduled to open February 2022.

- Mean Girls, closed: Opened in 2018, the pandemic closed it after 805 performances. On January 7, 2021, producers announced the show would not reopen.

- Hamilton, postponed: Shows stopped because of the pandemic, presently performances are scheduled to begin on September 14, 2021.

- The Tony Awards, postponed indefinitely

Its not.

In theory b way is officially opening next week. ( there are shows that opened earlier).

We will not be going back for a while.

[CoraSpia]

That's the sort of risk-benefit analysis governments should be encouraging. It's a personal health decision, and the people who are arsey with people for deciding differently to them, on both sides of the fence, are the problem.

Indeed, all health decisions related to COVID-19 should be a personal choice. It is truly up to the individual, and the government has no right to keep me locked inside my home or show proof of vaccinations to businesses (the business themselves do though).

OMG! Common sense?

[CoraSpia]

Indeed, all health decisions related to COVID-19 should be a personal choice. It is truly up to the individual, and the government has no right to keep me locked inside my home or show proof of vaccinations to businesses (the business themselves do though).

The decision to drink and drive should be a personal choice. It is truly up to the individual, and law enforcement representatives of the government have no right to stop me or lock me up for driving while drunk.

At least, I imagine some people probably said that when the government started introducing DUI laws.

This but unironically.

[Vassenor]

Indeed, all health decisions related to COVID-19 should be a personal choice. It is truly up to the individual, and the government has no right to keep me locked inside my home or show proof of vaccinations to businesses (the business themselves do though).

OMG! Common sense?

Remember, being Typhoid Mary is common sense.

[Celritannia]

The decision to drink and drive should be a personal choice. It is truly up to the individual, and law enforcement representatives of the government have no right to stop me or lock me up for driving while drunk.

At least, I imagine some people probably said that when the government started introducing DUI laws.

This but unironically.

Yeah, because who doesn't want to allow a drunk behind the wheel and ends up killing people?

[San Lumen]

Indeed, all health decisions related to COVID-19 should be a personal choice. It is truly up to the individual, and the government has no right to keep me locked inside my home or show proof of vaccinations to businesses (the business themselves do though).

OMG! Common sense?

This is what will happen in every country eventually.

[Vassenor]

OMG! Common sense?

This is what will happen in every country eventually.

I hope not. Even if that gets in the way of you going to the theater and indulging in your creepy obsession with staring at strangers' mouths.

[Ifreann]

OMG! Common sense?

This is what will happen in every country eventually.

This is what you wanted to happen in March.

[Vassenor]

This is what will happen in every country eventually.

This is what you wanted to happen in March.

In August last year.

[Esalia]

Its like we have said this countless times.

Until 99% of the population have been vaccinated.

Anyway, why is wearing a mask so bad? You have not given any real answer for it.

It’s unlikely you’ll reach that number anywhere. Facial communication is part of being human.

Guess I'm an alien then, since I've gotten on perfectly fine without having to see people's mouths.

Guess pretty much everyone on the internet are part-alien too. No facial communication there unless you're on a video call.

For something that's "part of being human", it's quite odd that we developed entire systems of communication that fundamentally can't have facial communication and used them fairly well for years and years, even before we decided to bring in masks. For something supposedly fundamental to being human, we've done awfully well without it and have made an awful number of ways to communicate without it.

OMG! Common sense?

This is what will happen in every country eventually.

And if it happens it will ironically not be because of the efforts of people like you, but despite the efforts of people like you.

[The Alma Mater]

That's the sort of risk-benefit analysis governments should be encouraging. It's a personal health decision, and the people who are arsey with people for deciding differently to them, on both sides of the fence, are the problem.

Indeed, all health decisions related to COVID-19 should be a personal choice. It is truly up to the individual, and the government has no right to keep me locked inside my home or show proof of vaccinations to businesses (the business themselves do though).

Why ? What is the point of a society if it is not allowed to protect its members ?

[Vassenor]

Indeed, all health decisions related to COVID-19 should be a personal choice. It is truly up to the individual, and the government has no right to keep me locked inside my home or show proof of vaccinations to businesses (the business themselves do though).

Why ? What is the point of a society if it is not allowed to protect its members ?

Because selfish people hate the idea of having to give a shit about other people.