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Could the USA hold Mexico long term?

Yes
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No
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The Two Jerseys
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:56 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
The Mexicans are the French of the Americas :)


Yet they managed to kick the French out.

That's because they weren't being led by the Mussolini of the Americas like they were when they picked a fight against the US.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:11 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Yet they managed to kick the French out.

That's because they weren't being led by the Mussolini of the Americas like they were when they picked a fight against the US.

And we had old fuss and feathers. Tough to beat him.
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Ayytaly
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Postby Ayytaly » Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:04 pm

USA annexes Mexico

Ethnic Mexicans immediately outnumber white USers, join the US Army, and increase in population

Soccer's popularity explodes and is rechristened as "football." Meanwhile, gridiron is relegated to the Special Olympics

Basketball and hockey lose popularity

Pro wrestling becomes a legitimate sport

Catholicism skyrockets

First POTUS of Indigenous American origin is elected

Se habla español; el íngles se convierte en lengua minoritaria

All forms of infrastructure are repaired and maintained in record time, as Mexicans aren't lazy nor hold out for more money

Environmental policies are enforced by militaries

The military absorbed the IRS, and there's a reward to hunt down Jeff Bezos

Drug cartels no longer exist, as they were funded by Anglo-American agencies

Welfare is abolished and abortions outlawed

Miscegination is only allowed between Mexican men and foreign women, as men are the backbone of culture. The inverse results in statelessness.

It is illegal to NOT own guns

And yet, ironically, if you thought an Anglocentric USA was iron-fisted in regards to immigration, the Mexican-led USA upgraded that fist into titanium

All in all, a perfect nation.
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Postby Rio Cana » Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:51 pm

Gonswanza wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Would the USA underestimate the determination of the Mexican people to free their country in the aftermath of occupation?

Yeap. No doubt about it. In fact, the common view over here in the states is that the common Mexican is just a meek and soft-skinned farmer looking to take up work in the north. A pacifist, really. Not the type to dig their heels into the ground and resist to the very last drop of blood.

Hell, their view can't be farther from the truth... Unironically.



This really short recreation of the Battle of Puebla plays - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQLWsA7tsVk

Edit - You do know that there are many Mexican companies which have subsidiaries in the US.

This is one for example - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grupo_Mexico

and this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grupo_Bimbo

and this - https://www.cemexusa.com
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:27 pm

They'd probably need to reinstate the draft just to be able to have enough soldiers to control a region that big. That coupled with extreme unpopularity would cause a lot of instability in the US as well as Mexico.
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Postauthoritarian America
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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:09 pm

Worth noting in the current context that it was the Mexican Revolution of 1911, the consequent deployment of US troops on the southern border and the increasing death toll there from typhoid fever that led to mandatory vaccinations among the troops...which effectively eradicated the disease.

In early 1911, at the outset of the Mexican Revolution, the War Department mandated anti-typhoid vaccination for United States Army personnel dispatched to the southern border. Surgeon-General George Torney, O’Reilly’s successor, subsequently reported that a vaccinated division of 12,800 men suffered one case of and no deaths from typhoid fever while encamped at San Antonio, Texas. Torney compared these statistics to those compiled by the first Typhoid Board for a 10,700-man division that encamped in 1898 “in nearly the same latitude for about the same length of time”: 2,693 cases and 248 deaths. Torney added that a unit that camped outside Galveston, Texas in 1911 lacked “sanitary plumbing” but suffered no typhoid casualties, while the city’s population sustained 192 cases during the same period and despite possession of that very amenity.
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Postby Rio Cana » Wed Sep 08, 2021 6:24 pm

Since this is a threat about Mexico its time for the in-between entertainment.

Direct from Mexico city. Prep. students at the National Autonomous University of Mexico (UNAM) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY8I2iVSsCg&t=1s

ENP is National Prep. school which is part of the UNAM. They were celebrating the 150 years of the founding of the ENP. has part of the UNAM. But historically, the school is centuries older.

Read - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escuela_N ... eparatoria
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Postby Hispida » Wed Sep 08, 2021 6:28 pm

fuckin mexico can't hold mexico
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Postby The H Corporation » Wed Sep 08, 2021 6:43 pm

Hispida wrote:fuckin mexico can't hold mexico

I can confirm
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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:18 pm

Mexico's military doesn't even have MBTs lol.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:38 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:Mexico's military doesn't even have MBTs lol.


US Air Force alone has too much firepower for Mexican ground forces I think

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Postby Gonswanza » Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:01 pm

Rio Cana wrote:
Gonswanza wrote:Yeap. No doubt about it. In fact, the common view over here in the states is that the common Mexican is just a meek and soft-skinned farmer looking to take up work in the north. A pacifist, really. Not the type to dig their heels into the ground and resist to the very last drop of blood.

Hell, their view can't be farther from the truth... Unironically.



This really short recreation of the Battle of Puebla plays - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQLWsA7tsVk

Edit - You do know that there are many Mexican companies which have subsidiaries in the US.

This is one for example - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grupo_Mexico

and this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grupo_Bimbo

and this - https://www.cemexusa.com

I'm well aware, plus OXXO expanding beyond it's Mexican origins into other places, including the US, along with Modelo (the company) and other breweries also having expanded business into other regions in the Americas.
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Postby Gonswanza » Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:03 pm

Ayytaly wrote:USA annexes Mexico

Ethnic Mexicans immediately outnumber white USers, join the US Army, and increase in population

Soccer's popularity explodes and is rechristened as "football." Meanwhile, gridiron is relegated to the Special Olympics

Basketball and hockey lose popularity

Pro wrestling becomes a legitimate sport

Catholicism skyrockets

First POTUS of Indigenous American origin is elected

Se habla español; el íngles se convierte en lengua minoritaria

All forms of infrastructure are repaired and maintained in record time, as Mexicans aren't lazy nor hold out for more money

Environmental policies are enforced by militaries

The military absorbed the IRS, and there's a reward to hunt down Jeff Bezos

Drug cartels no longer exist, as they were funded by Anglo-American agencies

Welfare is abolished and abortions outlawed

Miscegination is only allowed between Mexican men and foreign women, as men are the backbone of culture. The inverse results in statelessness.

It is illegal to NOT own guns

And yet, ironically, if you thought an Anglocentric USA was iron-fisted in regards to immigration, the Mexican-led USA upgraded that fist into titanium

All in all, a perfect nation.

I'm making a meme out of this holy crap my sides
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:46 am

Ayytaly wrote:USA annexes Mexico

Ethnic Mexicans immediately outnumber white USers, join the US Army, and increase in population

Soccer's popularity explodes and is rechristened as "football." Meanwhile, gridiron is relegated to the Special Olympics

Basketball and hockey lose popularity

Pro wrestling becomes a legitimate sport

Catholicism skyrockets

First POTUS of Indigenous American origin is elected

Se habla español; el íngles se convierte en lengua minoritaria

All forms of infrastructure are repaired and maintained in record time, as Mexicans aren't lazy nor hold out for more money

Environmental policies are enforced by militaries

The military absorbed the IRS, and there's a reward to hunt down Jeff Bezos

Drug cartels no longer exist, as they were funded by Anglo-American agencies

Welfare is abolished and abortions outlawed

Miscegination is only allowed between Mexican men and foreign women, as men are the backbone of culture. The inverse results in statelessness.

It is illegal to NOT own guns

And yet, ironically, if you thought an Anglocentric USA was iron-fisted in regards to immigration, the Mexican-led USA upgraded that fist into titanium

All in all, a perfect nation.


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Postby The H Corporation » Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:35 am

Gonswanza wrote:
Rio Cana wrote:

This really short recreation of the Battle of Puebla plays - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQLWsA7tsVk

Edit - You do know that there are many Mexican companies which have subsidiaries in the US.

This is one for example - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grupo_Mexico

and this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grupo_Bimbo

and this - https://www.cemexusa.com

I'm well aware, plus OXXO expanding beyond it's Mexican origins into other places, including the US, along with Modelo (the company) and other breweries also having expanded business into other regions in the Americas.

No one can defeat the power of Oxxo. With the exception of the Similares. It is a battle of who gets more establishments
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Postby Ayytaly » Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:17 am

Gonswanza wrote:
Ayytaly wrote:USA annexes Mexico

Ethnic Mexicans immediately outnumber white USers, join the US Army, and increase in population

Soccer's popularity explodes and is rechristened as "football." Meanwhile, gridiron is relegated to the Special Olympics

Basketball and hockey lose popularity

Pro wrestling becomes a legitimate sport

Catholicism skyrockets

First POTUS of Indigenous American origin is elected

Se habla español; el íngles se convierte en lengua minoritaria

All forms of infrastructure are repaired and maintained in record time, as Mexicans aren't lazy nor hold out for more money

Environmental policies are enforced by militaries

The military absorbed the IRS, and there's a reward to hunt down Jeff Bezos

Drug cartels no longer exist, as they were funded by Anglo-American agencies

Welfare is abolished and abortions outlawed

Miscegination is only allowed between Mexican men and foreign women, as men are the backbone of culture. The inverse results in statelessness.

It is illegal to NOT own guns

And yet, ironically, if you thought an Anglocentric USA was iron-fisted in regards to immigration, the Mexican-led USA upgraded that fist into titanium

All in all, a perfect nation.

I'm making a meme out of this holy crap my sides


I forgot to mention baseball also becomes more popular under a Mexican ethnostate.
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Postby The H Corporation » Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:12 pm

Ayytaly wrote:
Gonswanza wrote:I'm making a meme out of this holy crap my sides


I forgot to mention baseball also becomes more popular under a Mexican ethnostate.

I hate baseball. And it is already the second most popular sport in Mexico, specially in the North
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Postby Hispida » Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:08 pm

The H Corporation wrote:
Ayytaly wrote:
I forgot to mention baseball also becomes more popular under a Mexican ethnostate.

I hate baseball. And it is already the second most popular sport in Mexico, specially in the North

baseball :chad:
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