Should the State of Israel have a right to exist?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

At the very least Israel needs to pick an ambassador to the UN who knows how to use photoshop.

Because the current one wants us to believe someone in Palestine managed to smuggle a fifty foot tall Nazi flag into the country.

It's a badly taken photo with bad proportions but it's not photoshopped.
Also, why are you so incredulous at the idea of Arabs being sympathetic to the Nazi cause of eradicating the Jews?

[Vassenor]

At the very least Israel needs to pick an ambassador to the UN who knows how to use photoshop.

Because the current one wants us to believe someone in Palestine managed to smuggle a fifty foot tall Nazi flag into the country.

It's a badly taken photo with bad proportions but it's not photoshopped.
Also, why are you so incredulous at the idea of Arabs being sympathetic to the Nazi cause of eradicating the Jews?

Badly taken to the point where the flag is clearly several times bigger than the single story building in front of it?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

It's a badly taken photo with bad proportions but it's not photoshopped.
Also, why are you so incredulous at the idea of Arabs being sympathetic to the Nazi cause of eradicating the Jews?

Badly taken to the point where the flag is clearly several times bigger than the single story building in front of it?

Yes that can happen if you have nothing in the foreground to compare sizes with.
Edit: Also, why are you so incredulous at the idea of Arabs being sympathetic to the Nazi cause of eradicating the Jews?

[Fahran]

Badly taken to the point where the flag is clearly several times bigger than the single story building in front of it?

Yes that can happen if you have nothing in the foreground to compare sizes with.
Edit: Also, why are you so incredulous at the idea of Arabs being sympathetic to the Nazi cause of eradicating the Jews?

I mean, historically, Palestinian leadership included Nazi collaborators.

[Vassenor]

Badly taken to the point where the flag is clearly several times bigger than the single story building in front of it?

Yes that can happen if you have nothing in the foreground to compare sizes with.
Edit: Also, why are you so incredulous at the idea of Arabs being sympathetic to the Nazi cause of eradicating the Jews?

No references apart from the portacabin quite clearly closer to the viewer than where the flagpole touches down?

[Bear Stearns]

hindsight is always 20/20 but picking the land of palestine was probably a bad idea.

besides it's a scorching desert with no natural resources. brazil is a lush tropical paradise and madagascar has talking lemurs

[Fahran]

hindsight is always 20/20 but picking the land of palestine was probably a bad idea.

True. The Israelis could have had a century-long territorial dispute with the Malagasy. Would've been based.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Yes that can happen if you have nothing in the foreground to compare sizes with.
Edit: Also, why are you so incredulous at the idea of Arabs being sympathetic to the Nazi cause of eradicating the Jews?

No references apart from the portacabin quite clearly closer to the viewer than where the flagpole touches down?

Yes that's how an optical illusion works.
Also answer the question.

[Bear Stearns]

hindsight is always 20/20 but picking the land of palestine was probably a bad idea.

True. The Israelis could have had a century-long territorial dispute with the Malagasy. Would've been based.

more to the point, less people would care because madagascar is not in the middle of the most contentious region on earth. there are also less of them

[Vassenor]

No references apart from the portacabin quite clearly closer to the viewer than where the flagpole touches down?

Yes that's how an optical illusion works.
Also answer the question.

The question that has nothing to do with what was originally posted?

Because by the same vein I could ask you why you are so desperate for this photograph to be real?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Yes that's how an optical illusion works.
Also answer the question.

The question that has nothing to do with what was originally posted?

You expressed incredulity that one could find a Nazi flag in Palestine, I asked you why.

[Molossiania]

Probably, although they should tone down on the Palestines a bit, they deserve a state too.

[Vassenor]

The question that has nothing to do with what was originally posted?

You expressed incredulity that one could find a Nazi flag in Palestine, I asked you why.

No, I expressed incredulity that one could find a fifty foot tall Nazi flag in Palestine. Read the post again.

[Fahran]

more to the point, less people would care because madagascar is not in the middle of the most contentious region on earth. there are also less of them

The Middle East would have been a nightmare with or without Israel in all honesty. People who think Israel is the cause of all the strife haven't been paying attention to other conflicts or the radicalization of the region since the 1970s.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

You expressed incredulity that one could find a Nazi flag in Palestine, I asked you why.

No, I expressed incredulity that one could find a fifty foot tall Nazi flag in Palestine. Read the post again.

So which one of these people is a 10 meter tall giant?

[Narland]

I pose this question because as an anachronistic imperialist experiment it seems very strange that we allow them to slaughter the native inhabitants like the Israelites slaughtered the Canaanites thousands of years ago just so some whites from Europe can role play as ancient people. Seems kind of strange to me. What do you think?

I think if we held every nation to the same arbitrary standard of making them defend their existence because of the past actions of others since dead, we would end up with unworkable solutions to untenable problems with no hope for peaceable resolutions of anything whatsoever. What we wake up with each morning is what we have to work with. Each generation has enough to worry about just trying to make peace with what is that is.

Israel presently exists as a sovereign state for longer than most people have been alive. Like any other sovereign state, it has a military (and a people willing to defend itself by its military) with which to back its claim of statehood. It ranks in the top 50 nations economically, in personal liberty, and in its practice of the rule of law. It has more atheists per capita than any non-Communist country which I find ironic. At this present time it is the only parliamentary democracy in the Middle-East.

If Israel has no right to exist, then whose army is going to go in and forcefully disband them? what if the leaders controlling that army determine that some other nation no longer has a right to exist? Who would be foolish enough to give that vast amount of power for such a force, and expect it to be satiated with just subjugating and disbanding one nation?

And if we do go after such the like as Israel, what then of other nation that rank far below it in its treatment of its citizens? What do we do with the likes of North Korea where the entire nation is one big internment camp? Communist China and their concentration camps that unapologetically practices slave labor and forced sterilization of its minorities? Again, all these things lead to unworkable problems, with untenable solutions with no hope of peaceable resolutions for anything whatsoever. Take one issue at a time, one day at a time with what really is, as it is, and plan for the future in manageable increments.

[Engadine Mcdonalds 1997]

Now that is a loaded question friendo, and it's far too broad in what it's asking. A better question would be should the Palestinians be recognised as citizens of Israel and given fair representation in the Israeli parliament/government, or should the Palestinians have their own nation completely free from Israel in every aspect.

[Vassenor]

No, I expressed incredulity that one could find a fifty foot tall Nazi flag in Palestine. Read the post again.

So which one of these people is a 10 meter tall giant?

So when are you going to prove that this photo is an optical illusion rather than just asserting it?

[Fahran]

So which one of these people is a 10 meter tall giant?

So when are you going to prove that this photo is an optical illusion rather than just asserting it?

It kinda feels like y'all are both just asserting things at this point. And I don't mean this to be snide, but an argument won't progress anywhere without actually doing a bit more.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

So which one of these people is a 10 meter tall giant?

So when are you going to prove that this photo is an optical illusion rather than just asserting it?

You are welcome to switch the perspective.

[Chess Reloaded]

Israel has increasingly incorporated Lebensraum into its official policy so in its current form needs to be dissolved. Unfortunately how to do that without triggering a civil war between Jews and Arabs, I can't say. Jewish supremacy is a toxic and violent ideology, but the blame isn't even solely on Jewish nationalists, a large portion rests with America which rather than using their influence to curb Jewish supremacism, has actively encouraged it and made it clear American support is unconditional.

[Wampummariut]

I think if we held every nation to the same arbitrary standard of making them defend their existence because of the past actions of others since dead, we would end up with unworkable solutions to untenable problems with no hope for peaceable resolutions of anything whatsoever.

The thing is, Israel itself claimed to have right to exist that territory based on their ancestors' Kingdom of Israel, which already ceased to exist for a pair of millennia. This claim (alongside the related shenanigans since WW2) evolved to the long-lasting problems we have today.

I just wish for them to call it enough for themselves after winning Yom Kippur, but sadly they keep crawling to add (or as their upper echelons view it, reclaim) more lands with morally and legally dubious practices, up until today and in the foreseeable future.

In short, I think Israel has a right to exist regardless of the old territory claim, just like any other nations. However, I wish they don't play with fire even though currently they have a powerful religious-political "backup". It won't last.

[Sevincia Los Espocedo]

More like Isn'treal.

An illegal apartheid regime. Free Palestine!

[Cosmic79]

At the very least Israel needs to pick an ambassador to the UN who knows how to use photoshop.

Because the current one wants us to believe someone in Palestine managed to smuggle a fifty foot tall Nazi flag into the country.

It's real: https://twitter.com/dannydanon/status/1 ... 7247345672

At least "anti-zionists" are being honest here.

[Grave_n_idle]

At the very least Israel needs to pick an ambassador to the UN who knows how to use photoshop.

Because the current one wants us to believe someone in Palestine managed to smuggle a fifty foot tall Nazi flag into the country.

It's real: https://twitter.com/dannydanon/status/1 ... 7247345672

At least "anti-zionists" are being honest here.

Weird. That's a magically floating flag that spontaneously crashes when you put a camera on it.

What are we supposed to be seeing, here?