Should the State of Israel have a right to exist?

[Haha You Are Poor]

New idea, Israel vs Palestine soccer match, but they're given weapons and it's in the middle of the desert.

[Villenia]

the jews should have a land

[Alcala-Cordel]

the jews [i]should[i] have a land

No one is entitled to an ethnostate.

[Nationalist England]

Cope and seethe, Hamasoids. Israel is here to stay forevermore.

[Neo-Western East Korea]

neither state should have the land, Jerusalem is Brazilian clay

[Alcala-Cordel]

Cope and seethe, Hamasoids. Israel is here to stay forevermore.

Overconfidence has been killing empires since the dawn of civilization, countries always die.

[Republic Of Ludwigsburg]

Israel is good , Palestine bad, I support Israel.

So ethnic cleansing against Palestinian settlements is OK then?

Wow. You support terrorism.
Think for one second, and see all of Israel's accomplishments.

Modernize their area ✓
Beat Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Hezbollah 2 times ✓
Become the only secular*¹ country in the middle east less Turkey which is now basically Islamist. ✓
Westernize in one of the most primitive areas in the world ✓

*¹By secular I mean that non-Jewish people are not killed, unlike in Syria or Iraq.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Cope and seethe, Hamasoids. Israel is here to stay forevermore.

The region is probably going to be mostly unlivable by the end of this century but go off I guess lol

[Vassenor]

So ethnic cleansing against Palestinian settlements is OK then?

Wow. You support terrorism.
Think for one second, and see all of Israel's accomplishments.

Modernize their area ✓
Beat Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Hezbollah 2 times ✓
Become the only secular*¹ country in the middle east less Turkey which is now basically Islamist. ✓
Westernize in one of the most primitive areas in the world ✓

*¹By secular I mean that non-Jewish people are not killed, unlike in Syria or Iraq.

...Did you pull something reaching that hard?

[Republic Of Ludwigsburg]

Wow. You support terrorism.
Think for one second, and see all of Israel's accomplishments.

Modernize their area ✓
Beat Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Hezbollah 2 times ✓
Become the only secular*¹ country in the middle east less Turkey which is now basically Islamist. ✓
Westernize in one of the most primitive areas in the world ✓

*¹By secular I mean that non-Jewish people are not killed, unlike in Syria or Iraq.

...Did you pull something reaching that hard?

Elaborate

[Vassenor]

...Did you pull something reaching that hard?

Elaborate

Where did I say I support terrorism?

[Kubra]

So ethnic cleansing against Palestinian settlements is OK then?

Wow. You support terrorism.
Think for one second, and see all of Israel's accomplishments.

Modernize their area ✓
Beat Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Hezbollah 2 times ✓
Become the only secular*¹ country in the middle east less Turkey which is now basically Islamist. ✓
Westernize in one of the most primitive areas in the world ✓

*¹By secular I mean that non-Jewish people are not killed, unlike in Syria or Iraq.

so, in a phrase, you support ethnic cleansing?

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

The state of Israel is a state that has proven itself in the international community. The spirit of Israel cannot be kept alive by ignoring the Palestinians. Israel and Palestine should put religion aside and make peace. Arab geography should take the idea of ​​Israel as an example.

[Helidan]

The state of Israel is a state that has proven itself in the international community. The spirit of Israel cannot be kept alive by ignoring the Palestinians. Israel and Palestine should put religion aside and make peace. Arab geography should take the idea of ​​Israel as an example.

So, Saudi Arabia should change its shape to mimic Israel? Or should they conquer Israel to then have the geography of Israel?

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

The state of Israel is a state that has proven itself in the international community. The spirit of Israel cannot be kept alive by ignoring the Palestinians. Israel and Palestine should put religion aside and make peace. Arab geography should take the idea of ​​Israel as an example.

So, Saudi Arabia should change its shape to mimic Israel? Or should they conquer Israel to then have the geography of Israel?

They should do scientific experiments like Israel, but they need to do this not with religion, but for the common benefit of humanity. Not all Arab countries can publish the scientific article that Israel has published alone. While walking around the streets of Tel Aviv, I see a much more modern and free country, but I cannot see the same modernity in the city of Mecca.I think that political Islam should question this.

[Cosmic79]

So ethnic cleansing against Palestinian settlements is OK then?

Wow. You support terrorism.
Think for one second, and see all of Israel's accomplishments.

Modernize their area ✓
Beat Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Hezbollah 2 times ✓
Become the only secular*¹ country in the middle east less Turkey which is now basically Islamist. ✓
Westernize in one of the most primitive areas in the world ✓

*¹By secular I mean that non-Jewish people are not killed, unlike in Syria or Iraq.

You listed all the reasons they want the Jews killed. They have established a Jewish, modern, secular state that can defend itself. The mere fact that Jews exist and have their own country is driving some people insane.

[Greater Liyue]

Yes, Israel has a right to exist.

Every nation has a right to exist.

And the large diaspora does not invalidate their claim. Armenia exists but more Armenians live abroad than in Armenia. Both Jews and Armenians were subjected to massive genocides in the last century. So why not let people return to their native lands if they choose?

And if you don't feel comfortable with all of their decisions politically, remember that politics and people are not the same.

(I think Israel is overall a very good nation, but no nation is perfect. America and South Korea are great too, but they also have some issues.)

[Alien Overlord]

The Jews are the oldest group to have existed in the land of Israel, thus the land belongs to them. We know for a fact that by 1000 BC there was a united Israel ruled by the Jews. Prior to this the land was ruled by the Natufian's, though no one today claims descent from the Natufians as they died off as a culture. Between the rise of Israel and the Natufians you have the arrival of ancient Semitic speaking peoples who later evolved into the Jews.

The concept of "Palestinians" didn't exist until after the declaration of the state of Israel, but nonetheless the people who now identify as Palestinian are primarily Arabic from a genetic and genealogical perspective. Their ancestors originally entered Israel in the 630's AD as part of the Islamicization of the area. The Jews have lived and held claim to the land of Israel for more almost 3000 years, yet the Arabs have only held their claim for roughly 1400 years, not even half as long as the Jews have.

Therefore I am of the opinion that the land belongs in every way to the Jews. From a historical perspective, from a moral perspective (Jews have been consistently and violently persecuted globally when in exodus) and from a logical perspective (Israel has proven to be a stable, free democracy compared to it's authoritarian neighbors and even showed a willingness to share it's land with Palestine in the name of peace).

[Vassenor]

Wow. You support terrorism.
Think for one second, and see all of Israel's accomplishments.

Modernize their area ✓
Beat Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Hezbollah 2 times ✓
Become the only secular*¹ country in the middle east less Turkey which is now basically Islamist. ✓
Westernize in one of the most primitive areas in the world ✓

*¹By secular I mean that non-Jewish people are not killed, unlike in Syria or Iraq.

You listed all the reasons they want the Jews killed. They have established a Jewish, modern, secular state that can defend itself. The mere fact that Jews exist and have their own country is driving some people insane.

Wait where did I say I wanted the Jews killed?

[Cosmic79]

You listed all the reasons they want the Jews killed. They have established a Jewish, modern, secular state that can defend itself. The mere fact that Jews exist and have their own country is driving some people insane.

Wait where did I say I wanted the Jews killed?

By "they" I mean the extremists who want them killed/ousted from their own country.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

So ethnic cleansing against Palestinian settlements is OK then?

Wow. You support terrorism.
Think for one second, and see all of Israel's accomplishments.

Modernize their area ✓
Beat Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Hezbollah 2 times ✓
Become the only secular*¹ country in the middle east less Turkey which is now basically Islamist. ✓
Westernize in one of the most primitive areas in the world ✓

*¹By secular I mean that non-Jewish people are not killed, unlike in Syria or Iraq.

As in every country, there are racist politicians among Israeli politicians. The whole world sees the harsh attitude of the police against the Palestinians. We have not forgotten the Mavi Marmara massacre.To say that the Turks are not allied with Israel is an Israeliphobic attitude. Syria's future is democratized Baathism. Israel and the whole world must accept this. There are innocent people killed by Israel as terrorists, but if they are looking for real terrorists, they can find them in Syria and Iraq. Other than that, I agree with you on the other things you said.

[Senkaku]

Prior to this the land was ruled by the Natufian's, though no one today claims descent from the Natufians as they died off as a culture.

As someone who identifies as a person of Natufian experience, I'd just like to say that you're erasing my people's right to return to the Levant and build our own nuclear-armed American satrapy through daring and exemplary acts of violence against the locals

[Suriyanakhon]

The nation of Israel has a right to exist, the current apartheid state that runs the country does not.

[Fahran]

The region is probably going to be mostly unlivable by the end of this century but go off I guess lol

Quite a few regions may be. It's a bummer.

[Fahran]

Prior to this the land was ruled by the Natufian's, though no one today claims descent from the Natufians as they died off as a culture. Between the rise of Israel and the Natufians you have the arrival of ancient Semitic speaking peoples who later evolved into the Jews.

A decent number of the communities scattered around the Levant likely have some genetic and cultural relationship with the Natufians, who have been speculated to be possible ancestors of later Semitic-speaking populations in the area. This includes Jews, Levantine Arabs, and, perhaps, other local groups as well.