China bans gamers from making moral decisions, femboys, etc

[New Antarcticania]

No dogecoin for the chinese people, I guess.

[Suriyanakhon]

Can't tell if you're joking or not

Look at the state of Japan and South Korea. Obsessed with video games, crossdressing, capitalist to the point of near insanity. The Chinese rightly do not want to go that way.

Whereas getting kicked out of your apartment by your landlord in smog-ridden Shanghai isn't?

Also the idea that heavily patriarchal Japan and S. Korea are obsessed with crossdressing is super weird, so is the implication that crossdressing is bad.

[Bez Imeni]

That refutes precisely zero of his points, least of all songun, labor camps, and persecution of "hereditary traitors".

The USA spends more on its military than anything else in the government. US prisons have forced labor. I do not know of strong records of such persecution. If you wish to provide any, I will be happy to give my thoughts.

[Picairn]

North Korea is a good model and has been very successful despite the obstacle of Western imperialism. I do not see how this is a negative comparison.

Imagine unironically praising a totalitarian dictatorship, which does not even follow Marxism-Leninism, as a good role model.

Oh, of course, believe the propaganda of the Western media. They have no agenda, right?

"EvErYtHiNg I dOn'T lIkE iS wEsTeRn PrOpAgAnDa!!!"

As well, much of this applies to the USA, believe it or not.

False equivalence, here we come!

[Neo-Western East Korea]

That refutes precisely zero of his points, least of all songun, labor camps, and persecution of "hereditary traitors".

The USA spends more on its military than anything else in the government. US prisons have forced labor. I do not know of strong records of such persecution. If you wish to provide any, I will be happy to give my thoughts.

I really don't see how "US prisons having forced labor" is much worse than the actual, completely proven to exist, genocide camps for the Uyghurs, or the Organ harvesting within Chinese prisons. While the American prison system is, indeed, bad, you can't really equate it with the Chinese system of imprisoning and harvesting "dissidents" or the other examples of the non-guilty being persecuted within China

[Gonswanza]

I'm unsure if we'd need a mod at this point, given how far this topic has been derailed already... As a minor note here.

[The Kingdom of the Three Isles]

Two wrongs do not make a right. They never have. As much as I think most Western movies made in the past 3-5 years are garbage, banning them will not correct their failure. It will only validate them.

At this point, what is the difference between China and North Korea/Taliban? Besides the obvious statements that China is larger and richer? Their censorship and authoritarianism is nearly identical. Even Russia would not stoop this low despite banning criticism of the USSR.

North Korea is a good model and has been very successful despite the obstacle of Western imperialism. I do not see how this is a negative comparison.

As a huge Genshin Impact fan, I am extremely concerned about my favorite game. I wonder if China will kill their golden goose by banning most types of anime and games (Genshin Impact, Honkai Impact, any imported Shounen series, etc.). Or will MiHoYo overcome their failures and outsource Genshin and Honkai to Japan?

(Yes, I know I am obsessed with Genshin. I can explain. I had a very sad and chaotic time in my life around 6 months ago. This resulted in many major changes in my life for the better. I am doing far better now, but I had to leave most of my old life behind. During the worst of it, I felt almost completely anhedonic and struggled to enjoy anything. I made positive changes and got my life back on track. During those changes, I delved into Genshin Impact. I was drawn to its wonderful characters, intricate lore, basis on real cultures, and its tendency to recover to positivity and light even after addressing dark subject matter in its story. Since then, I have enjoyed Genshin like I have enjoyed Sailor Moon, Naruto, and Pokemon when I was a child. It is a series that has brought me a lot of positivity and enjoyment. My wish is for it to continue until the story ends.)

Sorry for saying, but I think that there are many better coping mechanisms than a cartoon game with scantily-clad children.

My guy said that North Korea is a good role model.

[Diahon]

Every time I stumble upon this thread, China bans something new.

I can't believe all this stuff is getting banned. It's ridiculous. What's next, thought police?

ban all syllables and characters that aren't equivalent to xi?

[Most Catholic Empire of Antarctica]

The GLORIOUS Antarctican state applauds China for banning these capitalist Western absurdities and exhorts it to continue on its virtuous path. May the Chinese crush their Protestant scum as well.

[The Reformed American Republic]

The GLORIOUS Antarctican state applauds China for banning these capitalist Western absurdities and exhorts it to continue on its virtuous path. May the Chinese crush their Protestant scum as well.

General is an Out-of-Character forum. This is real life politics.

[Great Algerstonia]

The GLORIOUS Antarctican state applauds China for banning these capitalist Western absurdities and exhorts it to continue on its virtuous path. May the Chinese crush their Protestant scum as well.

General is an Out-of-Character forum. This is real life politics.

Are you denying the existence of Antarctica?

[Just-An-Illusion]

Can't tell if you're joking or not

Look at the state of Japan and South Korea. Obsessed with video games, crossdressing, capitalist to the point of near insanity. The Chinese rightly do not want to go that way.

Gee thanks you gave me more reasons to hate communism.

[Hillary Clinton 2016-2024]

China bans Ultraman Tiga, anime might be next.

In recent weeks, the country's National Radio and Television Administration (NRTA) has... demanded that networks and media outlets promote masculine images, along with traditional, revolutionary, "advanced socialist" culture or anything that reflects what the CCP decides is a patriotic image. The statement went into considerable detail, stating that TV shows must "resolutely resist bad plots" and only broadcast "excellent cartoons with healthy content and promote truth, goodness and beauty."

As such:

Ultraman Tiga was removed from streaming sites shortly after the NRTA's statement was released. It was reported by the CCP mouthpiece The Global Times that its removal was due to the show's violence: "The Ultraman Tiga involves violent plots such as armed beating, multi-person intimidation, arson and explosions.

https://www.cbr.com/why-china-ban-shang ... ama-k-pop/

They also banned Shang-Chi and the likes. Now, think of any Shounen anime. Yea I think they'll soon be getting banned alright, I'm expecting things to escalate in a short amount of time.

Just in: CHINA BANS ALL THINGS RELATED TO CRYPTOCURRENCIES, violators will face criminal penalties.

China's central bank has announced that all transactions of crypto-currencies are illegal, effectively banning digital tokens such as Bitcoin.

"Virtual currency-related business activities are illegal financial activities," the People's Bank of China said, warning it "seriously endangers the safety of people's assets".

...It is the latest in China's national crackdown on what it sees as a volatile, speculative investment at best - and a way to launder money at worst.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58678907

Tbh, not surprised. Especially with the rollout of the digital Yuan, which basically gives the CCP direct access to everyone's money supply in the country - where they are, how they are used, how they should've been used. I've heard claims that this will allow the CCP, for example, to unilaterally put a "time limit" on people's savings, with the threat of the erasure of said money if the time limit runs out, to force the people to spend their money during a recession as to try to boost the economy. But I haven't been able to verify this claim.

Takahide Kiuchi, executive economist at Nomura Research Institute and a former Bank of Japan policy board member, called the latest move an "extension" of measures to "ban all virtual currencies except central bank digital currency."

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Crypt ... yuan-nears

(Now onto gaming):
...Well, not totally.

1. China totally bans online gaming for children under 18 Monday to Thursday (except if it's a public holiday).
2. For Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, online gaming can only be played exactly from 8 pm to 9 pm (so 60 minutes per day, full stop).
3. All online gaming software is required to use real-name registration and is installed with an anti-addiction surveillance algorithm controlled by the NPPA government body.

Apparently, the CCP considers gaming "an opium of the mind".

A state-owned newspaper wrote on Tuesday that gaming addiction in China was on the rise and labeled it “opium for the mind.” The article, which deleted the reference to opium later, fueled investor fears of potential regulation...

https://www.morningbrew.com/daily/stori ... WjcnBszQxl

Further more, China has stopped all permits for new online games, thereby (for now) nuking the game development industry.

Chinese regulators have temporarily suspended approval for all new online games in the country, dealing a fresh blow to the video gaming businesses of industry giants Tencent Holdings and NetEase, as Beijing steps up measures to tackle gaming addiction among young people, according to people with knowledge of the matter.

https://amp.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/arti ... g-beijings

...I don't know. Being someone who majors in IT, many of my friends are deeply interested in game development and are thus horrified with the news. However, I'm not invested in game development, and as someone who primarily plays single-player offline games, I don't really relate to those who regularly play online games. But I mean, with this attitude, offline games are for sure to also be in the chopping block. I'm also curious about what societal impact will this result on the hundreds of millions of Chinese youth, already under insane academic pressures at a time of the rise of the "laying flat" movement (although then again, the CCP also banned private tutoring recently).

Obviously, Chinese game companies meanwhile are fucked. Especially Tencent (who has lost almost half a trillion dollars in valuation since Feb), the 40% owner of Epic Game (who created Fortnite) and various other gaming enterprises.

Thoughts? Is this an egregious breach of right (I mean, we're talking about inviting government access to your phone and laptop here. Then again, this is the PRC we're talking about.)? Or do you instead boomerly view gaming as a sort of societal degeneracy and would support implementing measures to curb down on gaming?

Edit: since I think it's funny (in a horrific way), I'll add that China also banned femboys.

Broadcasters must “resolutely put an end to sissy men and other abnormal esthetics,” the National Radio and TV Administration said, using an insulting slang term for effeminate men — “niang pao,” or literally, “girlie guns.”

That reflects official concern that Chinese pop stars, influenced by the sleek, fashionable look of some South Korean and Japanese singers and actors, are failing to encourage China’s young men to be masculine enough.

https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-en ... 555a901b3f

Pursuant to the femboy ban, China has also started cracking down directly on K-POP and other idol fan clubs, directly stating that the problems lies in the very nature of such clubs. Both male and female pop stars.

Weibo, China's heavily censored version of Twitter, announced Sunday it has suspended 21 fan accounts dedicated to various K-pop artists due to "irrational star-chasing behavior."
The accounts, which have been suspended for 30 days, are dedicated to members of popular South Korean pop acts including BTS, Blackpink, EXO and IU. The temporary bans come after a fan account dedicated to BTS artist Jimin was suspended.

...Weibo said it "firmly opposes such irrational star-chasing behavior and will deal with it seriously," and promises to "promote rational star-chasing activities and regulate community order."

...Zhao Wei, one of China's most prominent actresses, saw her presence mostly scrubbed from the country's internet overnight. Her fan page on Weibo was shut down. Movies and television shows she starred in — some going as far back as two decades ago — were taken off streaming platforms, with her name also removed from the cast lists.

While individual Chinese celebrities have been targeted by the government before, the recent crackdown is wider in scope and harsher in severity, with their presence mostly wiped clean from the country's internet.

...Authorities have also taken aim at celebrity fan culture popular among China's youth. The Cyberspace Administration of China (CAC) recently announced 10 measures to "clean up" what it called the "chaos" of celebrity fan clubs, including banning any attempt to rank celebrities based on popularity, and tightening regulations around talent agencies and fan club accounts. A day earlier, popular video platform iQiyi canceled all idol talent shows, calling them "unhealthy."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/06/tech/chi ... rning_brew

Another late update: "y r u gae" - the Communist Party of China, 2021

Authorities also urged the companies to “resolutely resist unhealthy cultures” including worship of money and”boys’ love“—a popular literary genre in China that depicts the romantic relationships between males...

https://qz.com/2056875/chinas-crackdown ... e-serious/

Unironically mostly a good thing. Crytos are just a gambling scheme which avoid taxes and facilitate illegal commerce znd 90% of anime is garbage.

[Ifreann]

Can't tell if you're joking or not

Look at the state of Japan and South Korea. Obsessed with video games, crossdressing, capitalist to the point of near insanity. The Chinese rightly do not want to go that way.

Only one of those things is bad, though.

[Gonswanza]

>nitpicking on Japan and Korea in spite of the two having greater freedoms and a better (in terms of quality) military

I mean, the single-child policy did ruin things and lead to this crapfest, but hey, blame Mao and company for that past mistake, not "muh femboiz an liburrrlz an kay-poop"

[Rusozak]

Since when did far East "communists" become so conservative and bigoted anyways? Last I checked cultural purity and traditional gender roles weren't socialist talking points.

[Solise Melachyscorlo]

This is pretty tame compared to the other horrible shit that China has been doing.

[Picairn]

Since when did far East "communists" become so conservative and bigoted anyways? Last I checked cultural purity and traditional gender roles weren't socialist talking points.

Old school communists (or 20th century Marxist-Leninists in general) are conservative and nationalistic.

[Kubra]

Since when did far East "communists" become so conservative and bigoted anyways? Last I checked cultural purity and traditional gender roles weren't socialist talking points.

It's complicated. Let's not go there.

[Bienenhalde]

Since when did far East "communists" become so conservative and bigoted anyways? Last I checked cultural purity and traditional gender roles weren't socialist talking points.

I don't think this is about cultural purity and traditional gender roles. They just want to turn people into mindless drones to serve the totalitarian state.

[Bez Imeni]

Since when did far East "communists" become so conservative and bigoted anyways? Last I checked cultural purity and traditional gender roles weren't socialist talking points.

Traditional gender roles is not exactly what the policy aims for. Communism is in favor of equality for women. Chinese policy is simply working to ensure that men and women stay productive, good citizens instead of getting bogged down in entertainment.

[Bear Stearns]

Since when did far East "communists" become so conservative and bigoted anyways? Last I checked cultural purity and traditional gender roles weren't socialist talking points.

No but LGBT-whatever, transgender surgeries, bossgirl woman corporate executives, and multicultural consumerism are neoliberal capitalist bougeoise talking points.

[Bear Stearns]

Since when did far East "communists" become so conservative and bigoted anyways? Last I checked cultural purity and traditional gender roles weren't socialist talking points.

Old school communists (or 20th century Marxist-Leninists in general) are conservative and nationalistic.

The Soviet Union only had two genders.

[Duvniask]

Since when did far East "communists" become so conservative and bigoted anyways? Last I checked cultural purity and traditional gender roles weren't socialist talking points.

Traditional gender roles is not exactly what the policy aims for. Communism is in favor of equality for women. Chinese policy is simply working to ensure that men and women stay productive, good citizens instead of getting bogged down in entertainment.

Ah yes, the obsession with growth and the extraction of evermore value are the tasks that communists set out to accomplish. Uhuh.

[Neanderthaland]

Old school communists (or 20th century Marxist-Leninists in general) are conservative and nationalistic.

The Soviet Union only had two genders.

At least they had more than one joke.