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The ban on gamers and femboys

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Postby Greater Liyue » Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:54 pm

Cosmic79 wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Still, banning fandoms… the CCP is going crazier than usual.


Nothing should be banned/regulated for being distasteful. I'd say the CCP isn't getting crazy, on the contrary. It's doing what it has been doing for decades; limiting personal freedoms and micromanaging what people can and cannot do.

I feel like people in the west who applaud the CCP for these bans and/or ask for more regulations in their countries because they find femboys/gaming distasteful haven't had the military jackboot crush their own freedoms, ever. It will be interesting to see how they'll react if their governments start applying heavy-handed regulations in their hobbies, expressions, or free time activities. A good reminder of what it feels like getting kicked by a heavy boot could make people appreciate their freedoms more.


Couldn't have said it any better. Also, this just seems like they are preparing their whole population for war. Large excess of boys and men in their population=millions of conscripts. It is also disgusting (from my perspective) to see so many people who literally make careers complaining about Western cancel culture praising the CCP for engaging in their own form of cancel culture.

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Also, does anyone happen to know how MiHoYo is reacting to this? The only Chinese game I care about is Genshin Impact, and I am just concerned the fallout from this policy will hurt the release of the remaining 4 or 5 regions.

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Postby Algebra and Geometry » Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:18 pm

Yes , America is spoilt.
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:52 pm

Greater Liyue wrote:
Cosmic79 wrote:
Nothing should be banned/regulated for being distasteful. I'd say the CCP isn't getting crazy, on the contrary. It's doing what it has been doing for decades; limiting personal freedoms and micromanaging what people can and cannot do.

I feel like people in the west who applaud the CCP for these bans and/or ask for more regulations in their countries because they find femboys/gaming distasteful haven't had the military jackboot crush their own freedoms, ever. It will be interesting to see how they'll react if their governments start applying heavy-handed regulations in their hobbies, expressions, or free time activities. A good reminder of what it feels like getting kicked by a heavy boot could make people appreciate their freedoms more.


Couldn't have said it any better. Also, this just seems like they are preparing their whole population for war. Large excess of boys and men in their population=millions of conscripts.

The gender imbalance was a completely unintentional side-effect of family planning policy. In any case, if they were "preparing for war," wouldn't they have encouraged larger families? They woulda had more men in that case.
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:24 pm

China's playing a paradox game where the people are just a commodity to be used to increase their commodities. The extent to which they've taken it is new, but the fact that they are doing it at all is no surprise.
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Postby Destructive Government Economic System » Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:07 pm

Greater Liyue wrote:Also, does anyone happen to know how MiHoYo is reacting to this? The only Chinese game I care about is Genshin Impact, and I am just concerned the fallout from this policy will hurt the release of the remaining 4 or 5 regions.


I've been searching really hard for anything related to this, and have found nothing.

MiHoYo's obviously going to need to comply with these new Big Brother-like rules (and actually, they already are: I went to their website and translated this part of their User Agreement), but I'm going to assume that this game won't be targeted by the CCP for now (istg if this gets jinxed). The game doesn't have any gore and it generally complies with the dubious censorship that Chinese games need to abide by. And in terms of sales, Genshin's popularity has largely expanded beyond China to the point where a large cut in its original playerbase won't guarantee a serious impediment of updates (let alone kill the game).

(I can't say the same for Honkai Impact though, since it's largely popular in Asia only.)

In the worst case scenario, Genshin could either be bought by a non-Chinese company or MiHoYo could move its headquarters to one of its branch offices in Japan.
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Postby Cosmic79 » Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:52 am

Greater Liyue wrote:
Cosmic79 wrote:
Nothing should be banned/regulated for being distasteful. I'd say the CCP isn't getting crazy, on the contrary. It's doing what it has been doing for decades; limiting personal freedoms and micromanaging what people can and cannot do.

I feel like people in the west who applaud the CCP for these bans and/or ask for more regulations in their countries because they find femboys/gaming distasteful haven't had the military jackboot crush their own freedoms, ever. It will be interesting to see how they'll react if their governments start applying heavy-handed regulations in their hobbies, expressions, or free time activities. A good reminder of what it feels like getting kicked by a heavy boot could make people appreciate their freedoms more.


Couldn't have said it any better. Also, this just seems like they are preparing their whole population for war. Large excess of boys and men in their population=millions of conscripts. It is also disgusting (from my perspective) to see so many people who literally make careers complaining about Western cancel culture praising the CCP for engaging in their own form of cancel culture.

"You have become the very thing you swore to destroy."
-Obi-Wan Kenobi

Also, does anyone happen to know how MiHoYo is reacting to this? The only Chinese game I care about is Genshin Impact, and I am just concerned the fallout from this policy will hurt the release of the remaining 4 or 5 regions.


They are planning to invade Taiwan, if given the chance. Conquering the world starts at home, and they still haven't forcefully conquered all neighboring regions. I mean, they are still working on eliminating all ethnic and linguistic minorities, they do need the manpower to do this. I guess it sucks to be a young Chinese man right now.

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Postby Page » Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:27 am

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:China's playing a paradox game where the people are just a commodity to be used to increase their commodities. The extent to which they've taken it is new, but the fact that they are doing it at all is no surprise.


Capitalism. The game is called capitalism and the whole planet has been playing it for far too long.
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Postby Giovenith » Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:05 pm

Petrolas wrote:I think it shows opposite, CCP cares for well being of its people and has values. Something west lacks, west is decadent hellhole that continues to die and wither. I am pleasantly surprised by vigilance that CCP wants to safeguard its own collective from degeneracy. Chinese people have a state that cares about its citizens and does not want to feed it with entertainment opium to keep it going and let it gloat in degeneracy so kleptocrats at top can just plunder easily.
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Necroghastia wrote:Why is that?

Because Femboys are cringe
Christian Confederation wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Why do you hate freedom?
I love Freedom it's Degeneracy I hate
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Izandai wrote:What possible reason do you have to care if there are men who behave femininely, in public or otherwise?

It's improper and Degenerate behavior mostly used for nefarious trap purposes


You need to cool it with this attitude and slinging around the "d" word. You're only barely tip-toing within the lines of the rules and won't stay there for long if you continue.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:04 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Why do you hate freedom?
I love Freedom it's Degeneracy I hate

Your definition of degeneracy includes things that are neither bad nor any of your fucking business, and restricting them is the antithesis of freedom.

Degenerates rise up
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Postby The Blazeland Administration » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:08 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote: I love Freedom it's Degeneracy I hate

Your definition of degeneracy includes things that are neither bad nor any of your fucking business, and restricting them is the antithesis of freedom.

Degenerates rise up

D*gen /s
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Postby Diarcesia » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:10 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote: I love Freedom it's Degeneracy I hate

Your definition of degeneracy includes things that are neither bad nor any of your fucking business, and restricting them is the antithesis of freedom.

Degenerates rise up

Those who care about degeneracy probably are afraid of God bringing the world the Sodom and Gomorrah treatment.

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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:12 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
Izandai wrote:What possible reason do you have to care if there are men who behave femininely, in public or otherwise?

It's improper and Degenerate behavior mostly used for nefarious trap purposes

So your only reason is that you think it's gross?
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Postby Rusozak » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:15 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
Izandai wrote:What possible reason do you have to care if there are men who behave femininely, in public or otherwise?

It's improper and Degenerate behavior mostly used for nefarious trap purposes


That sounds like a personal problem. What, did a femboy make you question your sexuality?
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Postby Kumarinadu » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:56 pm

It sucks but there’s not much anyone can do. China is going to replace the US as a major world power. And by the looks of it they aren’t going to treat subject peoples much better. Having genocided the Tibetans and currently putting the Uyghurs in camps. To their credit they haven’t been committing war crimes in Africa. Directly. But just give it time tbh. It’s not long before they do a full on crackdown on homosexuality in general, probably involving conversion therapy, as that’s already widely supported there.

The anger from socially progressive Tankies must be something to see tho

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:30 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote: I love Freedom it's Degeneracy I hate

Your definition of degeneracy includes things that are neither bad nor any of your fucking business, and restricting them is the antithesis of freedom.

Degenerates rise up

Thats what bullying is for.

The ability to keep people conforming to society without government intervention.
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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:40 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:Your definition of degeneracy includes things that are neither bad nor any of your fucking business, and restricting them is the antithesis of freedom.

Degenerates rise up

Those who care about degeneracy probably are afraid of God bringing the world the Sodom and Gomorrah treatment.

Ah, the great Jewish conspiracy to destroy the Islamic world. They said that there is a prophecy where God will destroy nations who legalizes LGBT with furious meteorite strikes. Which is why the Jews are trying to spread LGBT and other forms of degeneracies, so that the nations that embraces them are obliterated by celestial carpet bombing, leaving nobody to prevent the Jews from launching a world conquest. Yes, this was something taught to me.

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Postby Kumarinadu » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:49 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:Your definition of degeneracy includes things that are neither bad nor any of your fucking business, and restricting them is the antithesis of freedom.

Degenerates rise up

Thats what bullying is for.

The ability to keep people conforming to society without government intervention.

Not the healthiest way of building a superego

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Postby Diahon » Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:15 am

Resilient Acceleration wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:Those who care about degeneracy probably are afraid of God bringing the world the Sodom and Gomorrah treatment.

Ah, the great Jewish conspiracy to destroy the Islamic world. They said that there is a prophecy where God will destroy nations who legalizes LGBT with furious meteorite strikes. Which is why the Jews are trying to spread LGBT and other forms of degeneracies, so that the nations that embraces them are obliterated by celestial carpet bombing, leaving nobody to prevent the Jews from launching a world conquest. Yes, this was something taught to me.

what? this was taught in schools?

did you and you fellow students believe it, though? or was this more to imbibe and forget?

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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:55 am

Diahon wrote:
Resilient Acceleration wrote:Ah, the great Jewish conspiracy to destroy the Islamic world. They said that there is a prophecy where God will destroy nations who legalizes LGBT with furious meteorite strikes. Which is why the Jews are trying to spread LGBT and other forms of degeneracies, so that the nations that embraces them are obliterated by celestial carpet bombing, leaving nobody to prevent the Jews from launching a world conquest. Yes, this was something taught to me.

what? this was taught in schools?

did you and you fellow students believe it, though? or was this more to imbibe and forget?

Obviously not officially. Religious teachers tend to (1) give personal stories after all of the day's materials are covered and (2) are usually more conservative.

To be honest I'm not sure about the latter. I thought of one of my closer friend to be moderate, especially considering he specifically disliked the fundamentalists and thus voted for the secular incumbent in 2019. However, he still asked about my opinion on whether all gays should've been arrested and put to death to solve the "social problem". We end up having quite a productive discussion, but still, that's a "moderate". I have no idea about how thing goes in more conservative circles. Admittedly, after the incumbents won, there has now been a stronger (I'm convinced that it's government and intelligence-sponsored lol) liberal cancel culture, increasingly being somewhat similar to that of in the West, that discourage open radicalism like that.

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 TLDR News | Exclusive: GLOBAL DRONE CRISIS! "Hyper-advanced" Chinese military AI design leaked online by unknown groups, Pres. Yang issues warning of "major outbreak of 3D-printed drone swarm terrorist attacks to US civilians and assets" | Secretary Pasca to expand surveillance on all financial activities through pattern recognition AI to curb the supply chain of QAnon and other domestic terror grassroots

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Postby Problem Dog » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:14 am

Lubeck HSA wrote:The game environment in China is very bad. There are almost no high-quality games, while other big games are all developed for profit.Therefore, some minors will invest a lot of time and money in these lousy games, which is why the games will be banned.


Tencent should perfect a game called "Environment" in which the goal is to save it for future generations, not to mention for the grasshoppers and other creatures.

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Postby Heloin » Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:19 pm

Problem Dog wrote:
Lubeck HSA wrote:The game environment in China is very bad. There are almost no high-quality games, while other big games are all developed for profit.Therefore, some minors will invest a lot of time and money in these lousy games, which is why the games will be banned.


Tencent should perfect a game called "Environment" in which the goal is to save it for future generations, not to mention for the grasshoppers and other creatures.

That game exists, I played the prototype version, and it's amazing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8eYqNNxICE

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Postby Greater Liyue » Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:49 am

Heloin wrote:
Problem Dog wrote:
Tencent should perfect a game called "Environment" in which the goal is to save it for future generations, not to mention for the grasshoppers and other creatures.

That game exists, I played the prototype version, and it's amazing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8eYqNNxICE


Dude, that game looks cool!

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Postby Novus America » Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:00 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
IM is a foreign teacher who likes gaming, the big two policies China has just rolled out is kicking out foreign teachers and clamping down on gaming.. oh the irony..


Except for a few occasional single player games, I’ve managed to quit multiplayer gaming. It’s been 3 months and going (haven’t felt any inclination to go back, hope it stays).

I like how it frees up tons of time for writing, drawing and TV shows/movies.


They will also be coming for your TV shows and movies too…
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/02/10336875 ... l-morality
https://www.cbr.com/china-may-ban-marve ... -protests/

Given I am sure some of your favored movies, shows, and probably some of your drawings and writings not fully conform with Xi’s vision of social conservatism and blind obedience to his cult, they are not safe either.

But you seen to have the view of the proverbial frog in slowly heating water (well actually frogs will actually jump when the water gets too hot. Will you? It seems not as your water is already getting quite warm.)
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Postby Kumarinadu » Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:13 pm

They’re coming for Jackie and Jet Li too
https://mcutimes.com/jackie-chan-jet-li ... ent-crash/
smh

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Postby Engadine Mcdonalds 1997 » Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:15 pm

Surely I'm not the only person here who finds the thread title somewhat misleading? The 'gaming ban' isn't for everyone, only for school students throughout the school week, where throughout said school week students can still play games for 3 hours, so it's not like the average working man/woman isn't aloud to play video games at all or for a limited amount of time.

Banning 'femboys' is also a bit misleading if I understand the situation correctly, as it's more so to remove K-pop-esque media and subsequent influences within the media than being against 'femboys'.

And China banning fandoms and idols is relatively accurate from how I understand, but of course it could also be an exaggeration.

Personally I think a more accurate thread title would be "China restricts gaming and femboys, bans fandoms and idols", but that's just my opinion
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