China bans gamers from making moral decisions, femboys, etc

[Necroghastia]

lmfao. Do you think the Peking nomenklatura is really working in the interest of the people?

i see no reason to believe they aren't given how rapidly material conditions have improved in china over the last couple of decades and how much work the government is currently doing (not discussing, doing) to improve the situation for its citizens.

ah yes, because banning depictions of queer people in media is totally in peoples' best interests

[Happpy]

THis guy... does he not realise that leaving a citizen and party member to rot on 22 cents/hour is fairly incongruous with their own party slogans that swears they're serving the people?

There are billionaires. What the hell else needs to be said?

Look, if there was a hypothetical society where the poorest people made $20,000 a year and the richest made $200,000, it would be very no-true-scotsmany to be all like "wow, so much for socialism" when that society would be more egalitarian than any in human history. If the poorest made 20k and the richest made 2 million, a society where the upper classes have a hundred times more isn't anything to put on a pedestal but I'd still give due credit for the effort. If the poorest made 20k and richest made 20 million, that's rather abysmal but even then you might at least acknowledge that it's heading in the right direction.

But China has fucking billionaires. The fastest growing number of billionaires, in fact. At the rate they're going, Chinese billionaires will soon outnumber all the rest of the world's billionaires combined. They have billionaires while workers literally die scraping by in factories with suicide nets. There is never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever a justification for putting suicide nets on your factory, because places that aren't evil incarnate don't need suicide nets.

The fact is that American under the Republican Party is more left than the PRC. It is a totalitarian state capitalist oligarchy. Capitalism doesn't stop being capitalism when the corporation is the state. And besides that, China has plenty of actual private capitalism too and again, BILLIONAIRES.

What do you mean that the country with the most billionaires isn't also the last true revolutionary proletarian vanguard against American imperialism??? Deng and Xi told me they were only building the productive forces, and that China is planning for "socialism in 2050 2075. Anyone who disagrees is a CIA plant /s

i see no reason to believe they aren't given how rapidly material conditions have improved in china over the last couple of decades and how much work the government is currently doing (not discussing, doing) to improve the situation for its citizens.

ah yes, because banning depictions of queer people in media is totally in peoples' best interests

No joke, I actually had a couple of Dengists tell me that China was "more lgbtq+ friendly than the US". I asked them about the femboy ban, one said it's "CIA/Falung Gong fake news" the other defended the ban because "femboys are all fascists anyways". I have no clue how to reason with these people, ugh...

[Ispravlennaja Tsekovija]

the problem is that china has not built their economic development off of imperialism. they have not conquered foreign nations and do not use foreign workers to develop. sure, they sell to and gain from states which built their own infrastructure on conquering foreign peoples, but exploiting loopholes in how those nations operate is not the same thing as operating like them. the development of china and the nordic countries are fundamentally incomparable.

I mean its not exploiting loopholes, when you extract value from the imperial process for internal development by any means you invariably claim a stake in that. And it was participation in such marketeering which allowed China to build its modern economy, which nevertheless, when you look at it, emerges from the blood of innocents and develops vested interests in the Chinese ruling classes towards maintaining such relations. Oppose this to the USSR, which built its modern economy off of industrial collectivisation etc. and proceeded to operate on a planned economy for most of its existence -- they still managed to maintain a broadly progressive economic structure (though not without decay which emerged from the faulty nature of how its Vanguard structure was constituted) without living off of the suffering of other nations.

By contrast, when we look at China's economic development, and the path China is following with Belt and Road, we note that while it is invariably developing productive forces to a certain extent, it's also just seeing a following of this imperial trend that will sadly continue into the near future.

guilt by association is a terrible argument, and i frankly do not see how you can accuse china of imperialism and then act like the ussr is better than it LMAO

the problem is that china has not built their economic development off of imperialism. they have not conquered foreign nations and do not use foreign workers to develop. sure, they sell to and gain from states which built their own infrastructure on conquering foreign peoples, but exploiting loopholes in how those nations operate is not the same thing as operating like them. the development of china and the nordic countries are fundamentally incomparable.

This is such a strange take. The distinction you're making, regardless of its truth value, boils down to whether one has been exploiting laborers of native or foreign stock. The latter may be the bitterest, but the functional distinction is superficial. Capital flocks to labor as does a moth to a flame. Now China is deeply involved in the world market and pursuing the same line as all other countries in the war of competition.

i still cannot see how china in and of itself is meant to be exploiting its own workers to nearly the same extent as western countries exploit foreign workers.

Besides, do you think that a country like South Korea developed through what you call "imperialism" any more than China did?

it's a puppet state for the usa who developed because of american imperialism of itself, so in a way.

i see no reason to believe they aren't given how rapidly material conditions have improved in china over the last couple of decades and how much work the government is currently doing (not discussing, doing) to improve the situation for its citizens.

ah yes, because banning depictions of queer people in media is totally in peoples' best interests

it certainly doesn't cause any harm!

[Orostan]

i see no reason to believe they aren't given how rapidly material conditions have improved in china over the last couple of decades and how much work the government is currently doing (not discussing, doing) to improve the situation for its citizens.

ah yes, because banning depictions of queer people in media is totally in peoples' best interests

Do you think depicting them in a way that makes most people disgusted is a way for them to become accepted? China is a conservative country in many ways - so is most of the world.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Did some esteemed individuals suddenly become Catholic nuns because of this one imperial ukaze from Chairman Xi?

[Aggicificicerous]

But China has fucking billionaires. The fastest growing number of billionaires, in fact. At the rate they're going, Chinese billionaires will soon outnumber all the rest of the world's billionaires combined. They have billionaires while workers literally die scraping by in factories with suicide nets. There is never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever a justification for putting suicide nets on your factory, because places that aren't evil incarnate don't need suicide nets.

China is the most rabidly capitalist country I've ever been to, and it boggles my mind to see all the self-proclaimed communists desperately defending it. Just a perfect way to show they have no idea what they're talking about. Yeah, the country where people work themselves to exhaustion daily in an effort to get ahead, where 9/9/6 is a fucking thing, where billionaires not only exist but are all in the inner circle of the communist party is the world's last bastion of socialism. Right. That's the country that's standing up to the west, not cooperating with it to rake in profits for its ruling class.

No joke, I actually had a couple of Dengists tell me that China was "more lgbtq+ friendly than the US". I asked them about the femboy ban, one said it's "CIA/Falung Gong fake news" the other defended the ban because "femboys are all fascists anyways". I have no clue how to reason with these people, ugh...

A couple years ago in China there was a case where a woman was given ten years in prison for writing gay erotica. A lot of public outcry against it, even some legal experts weighing in to say the law was outdated and needed to change. It's not going to change under Xi. It's only going to get worse.

[Ispravlennaja Tsekovija]

ah yes, because banning depictions of queer people in media is totally in peoples' best interests

Do you think depicting them in a way that makes most people disgusted is a way for them to become accepted? China is a conservative country in many ways - so is most of the world.

don't you understand? all you need to do is to show granny xiu a couple of drag queens on tv and before you know it she'll start talking to her sapphic wlw genderqueer granddaughter again!

[Orostan]

But China has fucking billionaires. The fastest growing number of billionaires, in fact. At the rate they're going, Chinese billionaires will soon outnumber all the rest of the world's billionaires combined. They have billionaires while workers literally die scraping by in factories with suicide nets. There is never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever a justification for putting suicide nets on your factory, because places that aren't evil incarnate don't need suicide nets.

China is the most rabidly capitalist country I've ever been to, and it boggles my mind to see all the self-proclaimed communists desperately defending it. Just a perfect way to show they have no idea what they're talking about. Yeah, the country where people work themselves to exhaustion daily in an effort to get ahead, where 9/9/6 is a fucking thing, where billionaires not only exist but are all in the inner circle of the communist party is the world's last bastion of socialism. Right. That's the country that's standing up to the west, not cooperating with it to rake in profits for its ruling class.

No joke, I actually had a couple of Dengists tell me that China was "more lgbtq+ friendly than the US". I asked them about the femboy ban, one said it's "CIA/Falung Gong fake news" the other defended the ban because "femboys are all fascists anyways". I have no clue how to reason with these people, ugh...

A couple years ago in China there was a case where a woman was given ten years in prison for writing gay erotica. A lot of public outcry against it, even some legal experts weighing in to say the law was outdated and needed to change. It's not going to change under Xi. It's only going to get worse.

1) How many billionaires does China need to kill, how many corrupt sectors of the economy must be legislated out of existence, and how many new regulations and nationalizations need to be made before you understand that China is socialist? 996 is illegal and always has been - the government has been enforcing labor rules more, not less! Billionaires also aren't in the "inner circle" of the CPC, absolutely none of the CPC's leadership are capitalists and only a fraction of China's entire government are even adjacent to capitalists of any sort. Right now you have the western media throwing anti-china propaganda to the wall to see what sticks, China almost single-handedly undermining the American empire through the belt and road, and the US struggling to figure out alliances and put itself together to keep its empire.

2) I don't think that second person was being serious with you. China also didn't make being gay illegal or something - it just made putting dumb shit on TV and capitalist culture illegal which is based beyond belief.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Jesus H. Christ on a bicycle how do you guys even post drivel like this without looking at yourselves and bursting out in laughter? It's like everybody's staring at the stark nakedness of the proverbial emperor and we hear half the lot paeaning his imaginary clothes.

[Orostan]

Jesus H. Christ on a bicycle how do you guys even post drivel like this without looking at yourselves and bursting out in laughter? It's like everybody staring at the stark nakedness of the proverbial emperor and y'all're paening his imaginary clothes.

cope and seethe while china becomes the dominant power in the world and the USA is doomed because of people like you.

[The V I C]

lmfao. Do you think the Peking nomenklatura is really working in the interest of the people?

i see no reason to believe they aren't given how rapidly material conditions have improved in china over the last couple of decades and how much work the government is currently doing (not discussing, doing) to improve the situation for its citizens.

I dont consider sending people to concentration camps to be improving the situation for citizens.

[Orostan]

i see no reason to believe they aren't given how rapidly material conditions have improved in china over the last couple of decades and how much work the government is currently doing (not discussing, doing) to improve the situation for its citizens.

I dont consider sending people to concentration camps to be improving the situation for citizens.

Do you have even one single fact to support this claim or are you talking about the US government lies about Xinjiang?

[The V I C]

I dont consider sending people to concentration camps to be improving the situation for citizens.

Do you have even one single fact to support this claim or are you talking about the US government lies about Xinjiang?

My man, the Chinese have been running camps for decades. It isnt my fault that you had to deny that just to Stan for a country run by killers.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/new- ... d-n1270014

Lemme guess, amnesty international is the US government now, right? Lmfao.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I dont consider sending people to concentration camps to be improving the situation for citizens.

Do you have even one single fact to support this claim or are you talking about the US government lies about Xinjiang?

This is how domestic abuse victims speak.

[Ispravlennaja Tsekovija]

i see no reason to believe they aren't given how rapidly material conditions have improved in china over the last couple of decades and how much work the government is currently doing (not discussing, doing) to improve the situation for its citizens.

I dont consider sending people to concentration camps to be improving the situation for citizens.

even western media has abandoned the concentration camp narrative at this point. get with the times

[Ispravlennaja Tsekovija]

Do you have even one single fact to support this claim or are you talking about the US government lies about Xinjiang?

This is how domestic abuse victims speak.

clown emoji

[The V I C]

I dont consider sending people to concentration camps to be improving the situation for citizens.

even western media has abandoned the concentration camp narrative at this point. get with the times

Wasn't even talking about Xinjiang in particular. Try again.

[The V I C]

This is how domestic abuse victims speak.

clown emoji

That's irony coming from you.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I dont consider sending people to concentration camps to be improving the situation for citizens.

even western media has abandoned the concentration camp narrative at this point. get with the times

But good to know that you approve of turning other people's cultures into potemkin villages or literal zoos for the enjoyment of the Han masterrace.

[Quitishiae]

Reading is more important than spending time on childish activities such as gaming.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Reading is more important than spending time on childish activities such as gaming.

And there's the closet Imperator and Autocrat of Everything.

[Orostan]

Do you have even one single fact to support this claim or are you talking about the US government lies about Xinjiang?

My man, the Chinese have been running camps for decades. It isnt my fault that you had to deny that just to Stan for a country run by killers.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/new- ... d-n1270014

Lemme guess, amnesty international is the US government now, right? Lmfao.

yes it is actually.

https://www.ngo-monitor.org/reports/bre ... cher_bias/
https://popularresistance.org/amnesty-i ... ropaganda/

"Every former camp detainee Amnesty interviewed in the report recounted cruel and degrading treatment, including torture. The report, released Thursday, is based on interviews with 108 people, including 55 camp survivors and several government cadres who worked in the camps."

This is code for "we paid people to say nonsense". Absolutely nothing these people say can be confirmed and other supposed witnesses have given contradicting accounts to different journalists. This is worthless.

even western media has abandoned the concentration camp narrative at this point. get with the times

But good to know that you approve of turning other people's cultures into potemkin villages or literal zoos for the enjoyment of the Han masterrace.

This is nonsense and you know it. Do you have any evidence at all for anything you say or will you continue to post what I can prove is state department propaganda?

[Orostan]

Do you have even one single fact to support this claim or are you talking about the US government lies about Xinjiang?

This is how domestic abuse victims speak.

cope

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Do you have any evidence at all for anything you say or will you continue to post what I can prove is state department propaganda?

What can I do against a man who would jump off the highest building in all PRC if his Chairman commanded it?

[Orostan]

Do you have any evidence at all for anything you say or will you continue to post what I can prove is state department propaganda?

What can I do against a man who would jump off the highest building in all PRC if his Chairman commanded it?

post evidence or read marx