China bans gamers from making moral decisions, femboys, etc

[The Imperium man]

I have a question for you Bez, do you think transgender people should be banned?

I think if a transsexual acts as a good member of society and does not make a fetish out of it there is no concern.

You use long paragraphs with straw man argument. Hey what's wrong with gaming?

It takes up lots of time and keeps people from doing things that are good for them or others. And the nice thing about this law is, you can still play games, but just at a particular time. There is nothing wrong with doing it for a little bit of time, but the law keeps it in check.

I'm agreed with you when it comes to healthy lifestyle and that's good thing for people. However , gaming should not be discarded , but rather respect these people who are interested in video games. Right?

That is why the law keeps a time period so that people who are interested can play for 3 hours every weekend, if they want. I think that it would be good if that could be any one hour during the day, not just from 8 to 9, but I am sure that would be harder to enforce, so there is a good reason for it.

3 hours of gaming is not enough for me to be honest. Your approach on gaming is terrible.

[The East Union]

I have a question for you Bez, do you think transgender people should be banned?

I think if a transsexual acts as a good member of society and does not make a fetish out of it there is no concern.

Holy fuck, for the love of Celestia, PLEASE refrain from calling us "transsexuals". The term is transgender, or if you're really stuck in the mud about it, just call us trans people. Trans people are not a fetish. We are people, just like you.

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I think the worst thing that nobody is talking about is the fact that this would ban OneShot. Niko is not only gender-neutral, but you have moral decisions to make in the game.

Also, Undertale would be banned. Literally 1984. George Orwell wrote about this very thing in his famous 1984 book, "Animal Crossing: New Leaf".

[Ethel mermania]

I think if a transsexual acts as a good member of society and does not make a fetish out of it there is no concern.

It takes up lots of time and keeps people from doing things that are good for them or others. And the nice thing about this law is, you can still play games, but just at a particular time. There is nothing wrong with doing it for a little bit of time, but the law keeps it in check.
That is why the law keeps a time period so that people who are interested can play for 3 hours every weekend, if they want. I think that it would be good if that could be any one hour during the day, not just from 8 to 9, but I am sure that would be harder to enforce, so there is a good reason for it.

3 hours of gaming is not enough for me to be honest. Your approach on gaming is terrible.

Your priorities are in the wrong place, to much unproductive time. Comrade. First Comrade Xi and i agree a re-educational adjustment is necessary.

[The Imperium man]

3 hours of gaming is not enough for me to be honest. Your approach on gaming is terrible.

Your priorities are in the wrong place, to much unproductive time. Comrade. First Comrade Xi and i agree a re-educational adjustment is necessary.

No cares about your stupid cultist mindset. Always remember , disagreement is a fking treason and now fk off.

[Gonswanza]

Honestly any medium and media that doesn't depict China as the savior of humanity and the one true power is effectively banned either way. It could be WarGame: Red Dragon (due to the lack of a dedicated Chinese campaign, along with offering you to play as other factions that are NOT Chinese) or even something like Battlefield 2042 due to showing a broken world... With China obviously being one of many global powers to fall. Shang-Chi was banned due to not depicting a favorable image of China in general, among other things (as far as I'm aware)... While Mulan (the live action film) was praised highly for it's garbage and canned combat scenes... Depicting a "favorable" image of traditional Chinese martial arts (which have been known to be impractical for combat for a LONG while... Given a certain "Mad Dog" and his streak of matches).

And yet people still want to kiss Xi Jinping's feet for no real discernable reason beyond following his cult of personality, at this point.

[Cereskia 2]

Wtf is even going on in China?

[Gonswanza]

Wtf is even going on in China?

1984, more or less.

[The Alma Mater]

Wtf is even going on in China?

They want the population be more like the US - mindless drones believing in a fairy tale history of the nation, always willing to salute the flag and praise the military.

[Gonswanza]

Wtf is even going on in China?

They want the population be more like the US - mindless drones believing in a fairy tale history of the nation, always willing to salute the flag and praise the military.

I see the baiting in this thread never ends. And boy am I not surprised by this attempt either.

[Resilient Acceleration]

Y'know, I''m surprised on how everyone mentioned very little about how the CCP is literally banning gamers' freedom to "think about morality", and instead force a black and white mode of thinking - and then force players to pick the "white" side. Isn't this basically a "good" vs "ungood" moment here, or should I say, literally 1984?

I mean, at least the online game ban is justified under the pretext of protecting kids from addiction. The LGBT is justified on... "homophobia as part of the Chinese culture" I guess, with the CCP trying to insert homophobia into Chinese culture despite a wealth of the contrary in its contemporary history and literatures. But the "ban on people's freedom to make moral choices" is way more concerning.

[Giovenith]

Your priorities are in the wrong place, to much unproductive time. Comrade. First Comrade Xi and i agree a re-educational adjustment is necessary.

No cares about your stupid cultist mindset. Always remember , disagreement is a fking treason and now fk off.

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[The East Union]

Y'know, I''m surprised on how no one has specifically mentioned very little about how the CCP is literally banning gamers' freedom to "think about morality", and instead force a black and white mode of thinking - and then force players to pick the "white" side. Isn't this basically a "good" vs "ungood" moment here, or should I say, literally 1984?

I mean, at least the online game ban is justified under the pretext of protecting kids from addiction. The LGBT is justified on... "homophobia as part of the Chinese culture" I guess, with the CCP trying to insert homophobia into Chinese culture despite a wealth of the contrary in its contemporary history and literatures. But the "ban on people's freedom to make moral choices" is way more concerning.

Because they're legitimate totalitarians, completely teetering on the edge of fascism, what with their capitalist economic system and focus on 'traditionalism'.

[Diarcesia]

Xi Jinping is having a heated Qin Shi Huang moment.

[Ifreann]

You seem to labouring under the assumption that communism entails the maximisation of production and a culture of asceticism to enable this productivist model. Nothing could be further from the truth. Communism in fact entails a reduction of labour and production, and the expansion of free time to enable leisure and the full development of people. The nature of leisure in communism will of course be different to that under capitalism, but that does not mean that it will not exist. I must also point out that consumerism is the necessary partner of the productivist model you seem to be fond of. If you drive up production, consumption must rise to meet it.

Certainly the ultimate goal is not to overwork citizens like in Capitalism, but that does not mean people in the society should be able to sit around on their ass all day playing video games and entertaining themselves with cross-dressing, because we want a functional society, not a dysfunctional society. Performing quality work for a portion of each weekday should be expected of any able bodied citizen (and having ADHD or stress disorder is still able bodied). Even in free time, we should expect people to engage in pastimes that are good for them. In my free time, I try to be creative, I hike and dive. These are good for health or produce things other people can use. Spending all your free time playing video games and indulging in sexual fetishes is not good for you or for the people around you.

You say there won't be a hivemind, but also you're talking about dictating how people spend their free time and engage with their sexuality, and requiring them to produce for society, not on the basis of that production being necessary but on the basis of being productive as an end in and of itself.

[Diahon]

Y'know, I''m surprised on how everyone mentioned very little about how the CCP is literally banning gamers' freedom to "think about morality", and instead force a black and white mode of thinking - and then force players to pick the "white" side. Isn't this basically a "good" vs "ungood" moment here, or should I say, literally 1984?

I mean, at least the online game ban is justified under the pretext of protecting kids from addiction. The LGBT is justified on... "homophobia as part of the Chinese culture" I guess, with the CCP trying to insert homophobia into Chinese culture despite a wealth of the contrary in its contemporary history and literatures. But the "ban on people's freedom to make moral choices" is way more concerning.

no one, least of all the ccp leadership, whatever its rhetoric is at the moment, believes morality is really at stake here

[Gonswanza]

Y'know, I''m surprised on how everyone mentioned very little about how the CCP is literally banning gamers' freedom to "think about morality", and instead force a black and white mode of thinking - and then force players to pick the "white" side. Isn't this basically a "good" vs "ungood" moment here, or should I say, literally 1984?

I mean, at least the online game ban is justified under the pretext of protecting kids from addiction. The LGBT is justified on... "homophobia as part of the Chinese culture" I guess, with the CCP trying to insert homophobia into Chinese culture despite a wealth of the contrary in its contemporary history and literatures. But the "ban on people's freedom to make moral choices" is way more concerning.

That's sorta gone hand-in-hand with the majority of the discussion here, even if most of it seems like either trolling or legit (and dare I say delusional) praise for a totalitarian dictatorship to rival that of the DPRK (for the uninformed, that would be North Korea).

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

China goes full Orwellian, bans all new games that:

1. allows player to make moral decisions, or
2. depicts any form of human non-heterosexuality.

On the ban of giving players moral choices:

Phrased like that, a game where you play as pure evil (e.g. the classic Dungeon Keeper) would still be fine. But the next sentences imply that you are only allowed to play games as a good guy.

I take it that also means that games where one can pick a faction or country to play will be banned; since one could pick a faction that does not align with Chinese values ?

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/th ... 971/page-2
Already happened. HoI 4 was removed in 2017 because of historically correct things like:
1. Tibet being its own kingdom
2. Taiwan being ruled by the Japanese
3. Xinjiang not being part of the Glorious Motherland.

Oh and my response to this heinous act of The Party deciding for you the pleb what is morally right and wrong?
This. Lie down, become NEET's en masse in civil disobedience.

[Bez Imeni]

I think if a transsexual acts as a good member of society and does not make a fetish out of it there is no concern.

It takes up lots of time and keeps people from doing things that are good for them or others. And the nice thing about this law is, you can still play games, but just at a particular time. There is nothing wrong with doing it for a little bit of time, but the law keeps it in check.
That is why the law keeps a time period so that people who are interested can play for 3 hours every weekend, if they want. I think that it would be good if that could be any one hour during the day, not just from 8 to 9, but I am sure that would be harder to enforce, so there is a good reason for it.

3 hours of gaming is not enough for me to be honest. Your approach on gaming is terrible.

I think that is a problem, then. I like to watch television but I am fine with 3 hours a week, I think that that is plenty of time.

I think if a transsexual acts as a good member of society and does not make a fetish out of it there is no concern.

Holy fuck, for the love of Celestia, PLEASE refrain from calling us "transsexuals". The term is transgender, or if you're really stuck in the mud about it, just call us trans people. Trans people are not a fetish. We are people, just like you.

I apologize if that is offensive, English is not my native language, that is how they are called in my language.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

3 hours of gaming is not enough for me to be honest. Your approach on gaming is terrible.

I think that is a problem, then. I like to watch television but I am fine with 3 hours a week, I think that that is plenty of time.

Holy fuck, for the love of Celestia, PLEASE refrain from calling us "transsexuals". The term is transgender, or if you're really stuck in the mud about it, just call us trans people. Trans people are not a fetish. We are people, just like you.

I apologize if that is offensive, English is not my native language, that is how they are called in my language.

Und hier we have a model subject of the CPC.

[Lanoraie II]

3 hours of gaming is not enough for me to be honest. Your approach on gaming is terrible.

I think that is a problem, then. I like to watch television but I am fine with 3 hours a week, I think that that is plenty of time.

Holy fuck, for the love of Celestia, PLEASE refrain from calling us "transsexuals". The term is transgender, or if you're really stuck in the mud about it, just call us trans people. Trans people are not a fetish. We are people, just like you.

I apologize if that is offensive, English is not my native language, that is how they are called in my language.

And where do you think it's your place to determine how much someone plays video games, or does anything?

Protip: It's not, has never been, and never will your place. China can fuck right off with their oppressive BS.

[Bez Imeni]

I think that is a problem, then. I like to watch television but I am fine with 3 hours a week, I think that that is plenty of time.

I apologize if that is offensive, English is not my native language, that is how they are called in my language.

And where do you think it's your place to determine how much someone plays video games, or does anything?

Protip: It's not, has never been, and never will your place. China can fuck right off with their oppressive BS.

Why is it acceptable on this forum to act like this? This is not debate, it is personal attacks and vulgarity.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

And where do you think it's your place to determine how much someone plays video games, or does anything?

Protip: It's not, has never been, and never will your place. China can fuck right off with their oppressive BS.

Why is it acceptable on this forum to act like this? This is not debate, it is personal attacks and vulgarity.

Because there is no Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice in our countries, unlike yours.

[South Quantia]

Ugh, China keeps getting even more cringe.

[Kumarinadu]

You seem to labouring under the assumption that communism entails the maximisation of production and a culture of asceticism to enable this productivist model. Nothing could be further from the truth. Communism in fact entails a reduction of labour and production, and the expansion of free time to enable leisure and the full development of people. The nature of leisure in communism will of course be different to that under capitalism, but that does not mean that it will not exist. I must also point out that consumerism is the necessary partner of the productivist model you seem to be fond of. If you drive up production, consumption must rise to meet it.

Certainly the ultimate goal is not to overwork citizens like in Capitalism, but that does not mean people in the society should be able to sit around on their ass all day playing video games and entertaining themselves with cross-dressing, because we want a functional society, not a dysfunctional society. Performing quality work for a portion of each weekday should be expected of any able bodied citizen (and having ADHD or stress disorder is still able bodied). Even in free time, we should expect people to engage in pastimes that are good for them. In my free time, I try to be creative, I hike and dive. These are good for health or produce things other people can use. Spending all your free time playing video games and indulging in sexual fetishes is not good for you or for the people around you.

I agree with much of this. Healthy socialization and activity should be promoted and even though I think China might be overstepping it I don’t think the purpose behind it is bad. Don’t know why you and other tankies are so hung up on gay people existing though.

[Diarcesia]

Certainly the ultimate goal is not to overwork citizens like in Capitalism, but that does not mean people in the society should be able to sit around on their ass all day playing video games and entertaining themselves with cross-dressing, because we want a functional society, not a dysfunctional society. Performing quality work for a portion of each weekday should be expected of any able bodied citizen (and having ADHD or stress disorder is still able bodied). Even in free time, we should expect people to engage in pastimes that are good for them. In my free time, I try to be creative, I hike and dive. These are good for health or produce things other people can use. Spending all your free time playing video games and indulging in sexual fetishes is not good for you or for the people around you.

I agree with much of this. Healthy socialization and activity should be promoted and even though I think China might be overstepping it I don’t think the purpose behind it is bad. Don’t know why you and other tankies are so hung up on gay people existing though.

Shouldn't be. Ever heard of Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism?