China bans gamers from making moral decisions, femboys, etc

[Rusozak]

Since when did far East "communists" become so conservative and bigoted anyways? Last I checked cultural purity and traditional gender roles weren't socialist talking points.

Traditional gender roles is not exactly what the policy aims for. Communism is in favor of equality for women. Chinese policy is simply working to ensure that men and women stay productive, good citizens instead of getting bogged down in entertainment.

So basically my earlier comment, "Undistracted drones are productive drones" but unironically. Nice to know their stance.

[Imperial States of Duotona]

So here's what I don't understand and I know, I am coming in half-assed without Googling a little bit more first.

I thought Tencent and China were tight, or something along that line? From Wikipedia: Offerings in China include the instant messengers Tencent QQ and WeChat, and one of the largest web portals, QQ.com. It also owns the majority of China's music services (Tencent Music), with more than 700 million active users and 120 million paying subscribers.

In short: Tencent is kinda like Hollywood for China, and even more.

Tencent is not going to be happy that their money-makers are getting compromised...

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EDIT for fun fact: For the occasion of the 19th National Congress of the Chinese Communist Party, Tencent released a mobile game titled "Clap for Xi Jinping: An Awesome Speech", in which players have 19 seconds to generate as many claps as possible for the party leader.

Reading the list of game studios that Tencent have a stake in is jawdropping.

-Riot Games (League Of Legends),
-Supercell (Clash Of Clans/Clash Royale)
-Epic Games (Fortnite, Gears of War, also own Psyonix, devs behind Rocket League)
-Activision/Blizzard (Call of Duty, World Of Warcraft, Crash Bandicoot)
-Ubisoft (Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, Watch_Dogs)
-Paradox Interactive (Hearts of Iron, Victoria, Crusader Kings)

They also back up (in terms of funding) Roblox, Discord and PlatinumGames (the studio behind Bayonetta)

Good lord.

[Porotia]

If they banned femboys, then America has some catching-up to do.

Reading the list of game studios that Tencent have a stake in is jawdropping.

-Riot Games (League Of Legends),
-Supercell (Clash Of Clans/Clash Royale)
-Epic Games (Fortnite, Gears of War, also own Psyonix, devs behind Rocket League)
-Activision/Blizzard (Call of Duty, World Of Warcraft, Crash Bandicoot)
-Ubisoft (Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, Watch_Dogs)
-Paradox Interactive (Hearts of Iron, Victoria, Crusader Kings)

They also back up (in terms of funding) Roblox, Discord and PlatinumGames (the studio behind Bayonetta)

Good lord.

Do not be surprised. The Chinese try very hard to get their industry embedded into international companies to acquire financial security, and they're very good at doing so. Sadly, this is hard to get rid of, and is also a reason why I boycott Activision-Blizzard and Ubisoft, and never make purchases in free-to-play games made by any of the above companies.

I can only pray they don't go after Maxis and BioWare.

[Gonswanza]

And yet in spite of that, China just shot Tencent in the foot, before blowing one of their kneecaps off by cracking down on mobile games (which were used rather briefly to bypass the gaming ban via a loophole that has now closed)... And with MiHoYo also getting cracked down upon even further due to problematic gambling mechanics... It's not looking too good for 'em.

[Bez Imeni]

Traditional gender roles is not exactly what the policy aims for. Communism is in favor of equality for women. Chinese policy is simply working to ensure that men and women stay productive, good citizens instead of getting bogged down in entertainment.

So basically my earlier comment, "Undistracted drones are productive drones" but unironically. Nice to know their stance.

The view that any sort of productive society is "drone-like" or a "hivemind" is quintessentially Western and it is the reason that America and Europe are so dysfunctional.

[New yugoslavaia]

And yet in spite of that, China just shot Tencent in the foot, before blowing one of their kneecaps off by cracking down on mobile games (which were used rather briefly to bypass the gaming ban via a loophole that has now closed)... And with MiHoYo also getting cracked down upon even further due to problematic gambling mechanics... It's not looking too good for 'em.

And here we were thinking that China was going to become the new world superpower.

[Ethel mermania]

Since when did far East "communists" become so conservative and bigoted anyways? Last I checked cultural purity and traditional gender roles weren't socialist talking points.

No but LGBT-whatever, transgender surgeries, bossgirl woman corporate executives, and multicultural consumerism are neoliberal capitalist bougeoise talking points.

Freedom by definition is messy and chaotic. They prefer order

[Kerwa]

The Soviet Union only had two genders.

At least they had more than one joke.

In Soviet Union gender assigns you!

[Union of Socialist Council-Republics]

Since when did far East "communists" become so conservative and bigoted anyways? Last I checked cultural purity and traditional gender roles weren't socialist talking points.

Traditional gender roles is not exactly what the policy aims for. Communism is in favor of equality for women. Chinese policy is simply working to ensure that men and women stay productive, good citizens instead of getting bogged down in entertainment.

I don't think you know what communism is.

[Bez Imeni]

Traditional gender roles is not exactly what the policy aims for. Communism is in favor of equality for women. Chinese policy is simply working to ensure that men and women stay productive, good citizens instead of getting bogged down in entertainment.

I don't think you know what communism is.

I don't think you know what is communism, if you think that consumerism, worship of idols, sexual fetishism are communist ideals.

[The Imperium man]

This forum is filled by trash communists who justified for nothing.

[Alcala-Cordel]

This forum is filled by trash communists who justified for nothing.

I don't know how I can recover from this burn

[The Imperium man]

This forum is filled by trash communists who justified for nothing.

I don't know how I can recover from this burn

What do you mean by burn? Are you saying my statement is irrelevant to this forum? By the way, my statement is completely satirical.

[Greater Liyue]

Two wrongs do not make a right. They never have. As much as I think most Western movies made in the past 3-5 years are garbage, banning them will not correct their failure. It will only validate them.

At this point, what is the difference between China and North Korea/Taliban? Besides the obvious statements that China is larger and richer? Their censorship and authoritarianism is nearly identical. Even Russia would not stoop this low despite banning criticism of the USSR.

North Korea is a good model and has been very successful despite the obstacle of Western imperialism. I do not see how this is a negative comparison.

As a huge Genshin Impact fan, I am extremely concerned about my favorite game. I wonder if China will kill their golden goose by banning most types of anime and games (Genshin Impact, Honkai Impact, any imported Shounen series, etc.). Or will MiHoYo overcome their failures and outsource Genshin and Honkai to Japan?

(Yes, I know I am obsessed with Genshin. I can explain. I had a very sad and chaotic time in my life around 6 months ago. This resulted in many major changes in my life for the better. I am doing far better now, but I had to leave most of my old life behind. During the worst of it, I felt almost completely anhedonic and struggled to enjoy anything. I made positive changes and got my life back on track. During those changes, I delved into Genshin Impact. I was drawn to its wonderful characters, intricate lore, basis on real cultures, and its tendency to recover to positivity and light even after addressing dark subject matter in its story. Since then, I have enjoyed Genshin like I have enjoyed Sailor Moon, Naruto, and Pokemon when I was a child. It is a series that has brought me a lot of positivity and enjoyment. My wish is for it to continue until the story ends.)

Sorry for saying, but I think that there are many better coping mechanisms than a cartoon game with scantily-clad children.

Hold up. Did you honestly just call North Korea "a good model?"
I never thought I would ever see someone unironically standing up for that kind of evil, yet, here we are.
Oh, by all means, tell me how this "good model" justifies starving millions since its greedy leader hoards all food for his family and army. Attempt to justify the inhuman and sexist treatment of North Korean women who are treated as domestic slaves by the men of North Korea. Women cannot even sit at the same dinner table as men in DPRK! How the hell can you justify imprisoning entire families for merely saying they disagree with their government? I love a good NK joke and used to use the DPRK flag for Greater Liyue since I routinely parodied them (the KPOP ban and E-girl ban were never meant to be taken seriously). But dude...simping for a government that is arguably the most oppressive in the world, one where citizens cannot freely move within the borders of the DPRK (i.e. you cannot drive from Pyongyang to Wonsan without travel permits). You need to go home and rethink your life and morality.

I am gonna go out on a limb and guess you live somewhere in the West. Where you are legally allowed to say this kind of evil drivel. Maybe you oughta take a trip to Pyongyang and see the DPRK yourself. You won't find many people outside of NK who know more about NK than me. Ask a Cuban, ask a Romanian, ask a Russian, ask a Cambodian. Ask them what Communism did to their countries. Go on.

And as for Genshin, I have many more coping mechanisms. I am Buddhist and Buddhism was the biggest help for me during that time. Exercise helped a lot too. Moving back to the same state with my parents did as well. You shouldn't dismiss Genshin until you have tried it. It's fun and more wholesome than you think. No sexual content allowed, the game always ends on a positive note after any dark chapters, and it makes references to real culture. Most characters aren't children anyway. Most of them are college-age or in their 20s. Maybe all you know is Klee, who is a child? Klee is actually very strong and carries explosives. Maybe you oughta put the Little Red Book or Communist Manifesto down and - dare I say it - go touch grass or go kill Hilichurls.

PS You are not welcome in Greater Liyue.

-Ningguang

[Greater Liyue]

And yet in spite of that, China just shot Tencent in the foot, before blowing one of their kneecaps off by cracking down on mobile games (which were used rather briefly to bypass the gaming ban via a loophole that has now closed)... And with MiHoYo also getting cracked down upon even further due to problematic gambling mechanics... It's not looking too good for 'em.

Yeah, this concerns me. Genshin Impact is my favorite game. Thankfully, MiHoYo has an HQ in Tokyo. Maybe they will do what Azur Lane did?

[Greater Liyue]

All of this is a good measure to take to avoid the Western corruption we have seen in many other Asian nations.

Can't tell if you're joking or not

Edit: Nevermind Bez is a tankie

What the hell is wrong with that Bez guy/girl? Who actually supports North Korea in all honesty? I used to use the DPRK flag as a joke and reference to Die Another Day. Most people with NK flags here are playing around. I don't even want to imagine what made this Bez person so messed up. Usually people that act like this were abused in their past.

[Greater Liyue]

This forum is filled by trash communists who justified for nothing.

Yep.

[Free Mondstadt]

I don't think you know what communism is.

I don't think you know what is communism, if you think that consumerism, worship of idols, sexual fetishism are communist ideals.

Yeah...Marx is the biggest idol of all. Not pop idol, just idol. With people spouting his nonsense and his bust being owned by so many loser Communists, I will say that Marxism is a cult.

-Jean Gunnhildr, Master of the Knights of Favonius

[Free Mondstadt]

And yet in spite of that, China just shot Tencent in the foot, before blowing one of their kneecaps off by cracking down on mobile games (which were used rather briefly to bypass the gaming ban via a loophole that has now closed)... And with MiHoYo also getting cracked down upon even further due to problematic gambling mechanics... It's not looking too good for 'em.

And here we were thinking that China was going to become the new world superpower.

They will try by war. Watch.

Banning femboys=Promote male soldiers as the only masculinity
Banning video games=nothing to stop CCP Propaganda and military training
Banning idols=CCP are their only idols
Banning crypto=CCP E-currency is money, now money itself is linked to social credit score
New policy to have more kids=More soldiers for the Middle Kingdom

Germany did something analogous to this prior to WWII, so did Italy. Hell, Mussolini banned pasta (look it up) and Hitler banned many types of music!

PS Are you Marshal Tito? Do you like Yugoslav War Music?

[Free Mondstadt]

North Korea is a good model and has been very successful despite the obstacle of Western imperialism. I do not see how this is a negative comparison.

Starving population, military first doctrine, crumbling infrastructure, near-deification of the leader, labor camps... Yep, total role model.

Yep. I agree with you and Greater Liyue. DPRK=example of what NOT to do.

[Free Mondstadt]

Since when did far East "communists" become so conservative and bigoted anyways? Last I checked cultural purity and traditional gender roles weren't socialist talking points.

All authoritarians are the same behind all their symbols. Confucius even said that if your government is oppressing the people, you have a duty to revolt against it. Jefferson said that too.

[United Inazuma]

This also implies that Chinese cartoons made in-house will also be banned, unless they are modified (heavily) to suit the state. In all honesty, they probably narrowly dodged a bullet there unless the censorship group says otherwise.

It's fine if in-house cartoons/anime are singing praises of these things:
1. The CPC
2. Chairman Xi
3. The Han ethnos
4. The Han culture.

TV shows already do that, with the added point that they all absolutely proclaim the Japanese to be Untermenschen.

That is exactly what they do. I love history of East Asia, yet every Chinese movie about the Sino-Japanese War makes me want to vomit. No nuance, no accuracy, none of that. Japanese soldiers are Cobra-type cartoon villains and the Chinese slaughter them in implausible ways. China=really really big North Korea. They just revealed that they are.

(I do not condone WWII Japanese war crimes, and I think their conduct in WWII was the blackest stain on Japanese history. I just want to learn about the war. Sadly, Chinese forces committed many war crimes against their own people. Look up the manmade Yangtze flood that killed 2 million Chinese. The Second Sino-Japanese war was truly hell. Long, bloody, unrelenting.)

[United Inazuma]

Is the entirety of continental Eastern Asia trying to become shut-ins except for South Korea?

Isn’t banning cartoons and encouraging “manly” stuff the opposite of shut-in?

It sounds like they want to produce millions of giga-chads.

Forcing people into worker bee positions is the opposite of a Chad move. A real Chad knows freedom and takes responsibility for his/her own actions.

(PS what is the female equivalent of a Chad? Women can be Chads too, but do female Chads get an honorific?)

[Union of Socialist Council-Republics]

I don't think you know what communism is.

I don't think you know what is communism, if you think that consumerism, worship of idols, sexual fetishism are communist ideals.

You seem to labouring under the assumption that communism entails the maximisation of production and a culture of asceticism to enable this productivist model. Nothing could be further from the truth. Communism in fact entails a reduction of labour and production, and the expansion of free time to enable leisure and the full development of people. The nature of leisure in communism will of course be different to that under capitalism, but that does not mean that it will not exist. I must also point out that consumerism is the necessary partner of the productivist model you seem to be fond of. If you drive up production, consumption must rise to meet it.

[Bez Imeni]

North Korea is a good model and has been very successful despite the obstacle of Western imperialism. I do not see how this is a negative comparison.

Sorry for saying, but I think that there are many better coping mechanisms than a cartoon game with scantily-clad children.

Hold up. Did you honestly just call North Korea "a good model?"
I never thought I would ever see someone unironically standing up for that kind of evil, yet, here we are.
Oh, by all means, tell me how this "good model" justifies starving millions since its greedy leader hoards all food for his family and army. Attempt to justify the inhuman and sexist treatment of North Korean women who are treated as domestic slaves by the men of North Korea. Women cannot even sit at the same dinner table as men in DPRK! How the hell can you justify imprisoning entire families for merely saying they disagree with their government? I love a good NK joke and used to use the DPRK flag for Greater Liyue since I routinely parodied them (the KPOP ban and E-girl ban were never meant to be taken seriously). But dude...simping for a government that is arguably the most oppressive in the world, one where citizens cannot freely move within the borders of the DPRK (i.e. you cannot drive from Pyongyang to Wonsan without travel permits). You need to go home and rethink your life and morality.

I am gonna go out on a limb and guess you live somewhere in the West. Where you are legally allowed to say this kind of evil drivel. Maybe you oughta take a trip to Pyongyang and see the DPRK yourself. You won't find many people outside of NK who know more about NK than me. Ask a Cuban, ask a Romanian, ask a Russian, ask a Cambodian. Ask them what Communism did to their countries. Go on.

And as for Genshin, I have many more coping mechanisms. I am Buddhist and Buddhism was the biggest help for me during that time. Exercise helped a lot too. Moving back to the same state with my parents did as well. You shouldn't dismiss Genshin until you have tried it. It's fun and more wholesome than you think. No sexual content allowed, the game always ends on a positive note after any dark chapters, and it makes references to real culture. Most characters aren't children anyway. Most of them are college-age or in their 20s. Maybe all you know is Klee, who is a child? Klee is actually very strong and carries explosives. Maybe you oughta put the Little Red Book or Communist Manifesto down and - dare I say it - go touch grass or go kill Hilichurls.

PS You are not welcome in Greater Liyue.

-Ningguang

Are you scholar of North Korea? Why do you think you are such an expert?? Many Russians wish to return to communism. Do you know that last election, just several weeks ago, КПРФ won nearly 20% of the vote? In former Soviet countries, usually at least 40% of the population thinks the dissolution of the USSR was a great shame. In Cuba, Communism remains popular, though it has been weakened by the loss of Fidel Castro. And the Communist Party is very popular in China, except for the few hooligans in Hong Kong, who the media claims to be a much bigger group than they are in reality.

I looked up this character you mention, Klee. It is horrifying! She wears such a skimpy outfit. What kind of people do you think this is supposed to attract?!

I do not care if I am not welcome in your imaginary country.

Can't tell if you're joking or not

Edit: Nevermind Bez is a tankie

What the hell is wrong with that Bez guy/girl? Who actually supports North Korea in all honesty? I used to use the DPRK flag as a joke and reference to Die Another Day. Most people with NK flags here are playing around. I don't even want to imagine what made this Bez person so messed up. Usually people that act like this were abused in their past.

I have not experienced abuse, to my knowledge. However, that does not make someone's opinions less valid, even if I have experienced abuse. It is so disrespectful to say that.

And here we were thinking that China was going to become the new world superpower.

They will try by war. Watch.

Banning femboys=Promote male soldiers as the only masculinity
Banning video games=nothing to stop CCP Propaganda and military training
Banning idols=CCP are their only idols
Banning crypto=CCP E-currency is money, now money itself is linked to social credit score
New policy to have more kids=More soldiers for the Middle Kingdom

Germany did something analogous to this prior to WWII, so did Italy. Hell, Mussolini banned pasta (look it up) and Hitler banned many types of music!

PS Are you Marshal Tito? Do you like Yugoslav War Music?

How do you think video games would stop so called "CCP propaganda"? If the children spend their time zombifying in front of television screen, they have less time to spend reading dialectical theory?