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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:36 am

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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:40 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:I'm torn.

On the one hand, authoritarianism is bad m'kay.

But on the other, anything that reduces China's influence over gaming companies is good. And this seems likely to do that.

I don't think it will, it won't stop their companies from buying out gaming companies and the CCP is too smart to let its control slip.

Yea the goal isn't to kill the golden gooses, it's to control... maybe. Then again, the CCP has been speaking out against "disorderly expansion of capital", which maintains that the rapid growth in IT has sucked away talent and capital from "things that actually matters" (biotech, material science, quantum computing, AGI, etc). I... idk. I mean, despite going into IT, I'm not that stupid to not see that large swathes of Silicon Valley's growth model is incredibly similar to bubbles.

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People should discover the answer to if it is viable to ignore low fertility. It means the population shrinks but so what? It shouldn't mean that absolutely no new children will be born. Just that the demographic base comprised of those who can reproduce will be smaller.

With a smaller population more can be afforded with less, assuming the old infrastructure is maintained, and its good for the environment because less people equals less production and less pollution and so on. More education can be provided to fewer people. A shrinking economy shouldn't be so bad. It means some good deflation can finally happen and currency will have value again.

As for pensions, just get rid of pensions in general if they can't be afforded. US and lots of other places don't have pensions, its IRAs or 401Ks now. If you didn't grow your net worth enough, it just means you have to keep working. Retirement is bad for people anyways, one of the reasons Japan is said to have such high life expectancy is that their senior citizens never retire to a large extent. If certain old people can't work, they're usually able to do something like a reverse mortgage. They'll be fine on their own, if they only need to deplete net worth for 5 years or so before death.


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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:41 am

Is China salty because ISP and Spiff keep starting Opium Wars in Victoria 2?
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Postby Diarcesia » Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:50 am

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Postby South Reinkalistan » Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:43 pm

lo and behold, gamers continue to be one of the world's most persecuted minorities

sad!

In all seriousness, my actual take is that a less draconian version of this law would probably be positive.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:20 pm

They targeted gamers.

Gamers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.

We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.

We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.
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Postby Keira » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:26 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:-snip snop-

I really hope that's a copypasta.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:37 pm

China bans kids from playing online video games during the week (CNN)
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In recent years, the Chinese government implemented a registration system which required people who played computer games to do so under their real names, allowing companies to check up on them.

This week, it reiterated that policy, with the NPPA noting that "online game enterprises shall not provide game services in any form ... to users who have not registered or logged in with their real names."

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Postby Page » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:39 pm

Coming to America and the western world at large in like... I don't know, wild guess, 18 years?

Look, freedom is fucked. We either are going to be oppressed by "LAW AND ORDER!" right-wingers or "We know what's best for you" liberals, but oppression is inevitable.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:41 pm

Page wrote:Coming to America and the western world at large in like... I don't know, wild guess, 18 years?

Look, freedom is fucked. We either are going to be oppressed by "LAW AND ORDER!" right-wingers or "We know what's best for you" liberals, but oppression is inevitable.

No, we'll have FreedomTM.

It'll just have a subscription fee.
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Postby Page » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:41 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:The real joke here is PRC's average total fertility rate of 1.4. You need 2.0 to just stay afloat and not drown in a chasm of angry impoverished pensioners. Hell I think even Tokyo itself is doing better than 1.4 births per death.


People should discover the answer to if it is viable to ignore low fertility. It means the population shrinks but so what? It shouldn't mean that absolutely no new children will be born. Just that the demographic base comprised of those who can reproduce will be smaller.

With a smaller population more can be afforded with less, assuming the old infrastructure is maintained, and its good for the environment because less people equals less production and less pollution and so on. More education can be provided to fewer people. A shrinking economy shouldn't be so bad. It means some good deflation can finally happen and currency will have value again.

As for pensions, just get rid of pensions in general if they can't be afforded. US and lots of other places don't have pensions, its IRAs or 401Ks now. If you didn't grow your net worth enough, it just means you have to keep working. Retirement is bad for people anyways, one of the reasons Japan is said to have such high life expectancy is that their senior citizens never retire to a large extent. If certain old people can't work, they're usually able to do something like a reverse mortgage. They'll be fine on their own, if they only need to deplete net worth for 5 years or so before death.


The first two out of three paragraphs were entirely coherent and indeed insightful. Congratulations, Sai, on 66.6666% rightness.
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Postby Just-An-Illusion » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:48 pm

Keira wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:-snip snop-

I really hope that's a copypasta.


It's a meme no one seriously believes that gamers are the most oppressed groups in the world. Most people who play games are pretty chill if you get to know them.
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Postby South Reinkalistan » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:49 pm

Page wrote:Coming to America and the western world at large in like... I don't know, wild guess, 18 years?

deng gang takes yet another W it seems
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Postby Odreria » Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:36 pm

Page wrote:Coming to America and the western world at large in like... I don't know, wild guess, 18 years?

Look, freedom is fucked. We either are going to be oppressed by "LAW AND ORDER!" right-wingers or "We know what's best for you" liberals, but oppression is inevitable.

people are alot more free without online games
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Postby Noristoniaka » Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:40 pm

This is one of the most stupidest things I have ever heard...
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Postby Hukhalia » Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:41 pm

Noristoniaka wrote:This is one of the most stupidest things I have ever heard...

Is it? Going outside isn't that bad, actually
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Postby Vikanias » Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:43 pm

This thread is either Chinese people, or gamers screaming about how we are “oppressed” and have multiple mental problems due to “grind” and it’s just BS, I like it game but Jesus Christ some gamers are just babies screaming shit like this. I need to know if these people are serious or not
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Postby Esthe » Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:49 pm

Vikanias wrote:This thread is either Chinese people, or gamers screaming about how we are “oppressed” and have multiple mental problems due to “grind” and it’s just BS, I like it game but Jesus Christ some gamers are just babies screaming shit like this. I need to know if these people are serious or not

About 99.99999999999999999% of them are.
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Postby Zhong-guo » Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:18 pm

Seems fine with me. Nothing bad as many posters have commented.

My girlfriend has told me about how serious gaming addiction was in her city; especially the students she teaches in China. Games are only for pure entertainment with no value for knowledge, nor does it contribute to the economy…

Online gaming as the Chinese media said acts as an opium of the minds.
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Postby Asouzu » Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:25 pm

In the game Chinese Parents, you can get your child to play a shit ton of video games or learn coding from video games, leading them to the careers of either Esports Player or Game Developer respectively.

That game was released in 2018. Unintentional period piece it seems.
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Postby Vikanias » Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:51 pm

Petrolas wrote:Just shows that CCP cares for its citizens and youth, instead of profit. Really great move on behalf of CCP. On top of this they recently banned school tests for 6-7 year olds due to bad mental health impact, which further proves that point that CCP cares for its youth.


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Postby Noristoniaka » Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:58 pm

Hukhalia wrote:
Noristoniaka wrote:This is one of the most stupidest things I have ever heard...

Is it? Going outside isn't that bad, actually

Ugh, I mean why does China have to interfere with something like this?

I'm not saying that it is bad?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:58 pm

Thank god maybe now I won't have to face people with 500 ping playing with a VPN in China lmao
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Postby Hukhalia » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:02 pm

Noristoniaka wrote:
Hukhalia wrote:Is it? Going outside isn't that bad, actually

Ugh, I mean why does China have to interfere with something like this?

I'm not saying that it is bad?

because gaming is unironically a public health epidemic
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Postby Just-An-Illusion » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:04 pm

Hukhalia wrote:
Noristoniaka wrote:Ugh, I mean why does China have to interfere with something like this?

I'm not saying that it is bad?

because gaming is unironically a public health epidemic


Are you sure? Because playing video games actually helped me get through the pandemic without losing my mind.
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