Censorship

[Crownstar]

What do you think about Censorship in your country and in the U.S. Do you think it is a good or * CENSORED * idea? Does it work.

[UNIverseVERSE]

Bad idea, doesn't work.

[Ifreann]

Bad idea, doesn't work.

I predict many responses like this one.

[The Grand World Order]

Only a little, tiny bit of censorship. To keep citizens following the right political path, allow ridiculous Communist ideas to be published and destroyed by professional government debaters.

[Ifreann]

Only a little, tiny bit of censorship. To keep citizens following the right political path, allow ridiculous Communist ideas to be published and destroyed by professional government debaters.

And an unfortunate handful like this one. Tell me, if you're going to be brainwashing your citizens then why just brainwash them a little? Why not make like a virgin on prom night and finally go all the way?

[UNIverseVERSE]

And an unfortunate handful like this one. Tell me, if you're going to be brainwashing your citizens then why just brainwash them a little? Why not make like a virgin on prom night and finally go all the way?

Possibly the best comparison ever on NSG.

[Baycosa]

Censorship won't work as a political tool, it's better to debate ideas then silance them.

[Grave_n_idle]

Censorship is a great idea.

You can shape the deeds of people, by shaping their thoughts - and you can shape their thoughts by regulating what goes into their brain.

Censorship on it's own isn't enough, though - what you really need is the combination censorship AND carefully designed thought-profile-enhancing education.

[New Limacon]

There probably are some ideas that harmful and should not be allowed to be distributed in society. I don't know what they are, though, and I'm pretty sure the government doesn't, either, so until we find out, I don't see a reason for censoring material.

[Baycosa]

Censorship is a great idea.

You can shape the deeds of people, by shaping their thoughts - and you can shape their thoughts by regulating what goes into their brain.

Censorship on it's own isn't enough, though - what you really need is the combination censorship AND carefully designed thought-profile-enhancing education.

Yea it worked very good in the Soviet, what happened? People defected and the union collapsed

I don't need som leftist pussy goverment (like my own), communist useful-idiots or fascist good-for-nothings tell me how to think.

[Ifreann]

Censorship is a great idea.

You can shape the deeds of people, by shaping their thoughts - and you can shape their thoughts by regulating what goes into their brain.

Censorship on it's own isn't enough, though - what you really need is the combination censorship AND carefully designed thought-profile-enhancing education.

Don't forget to make Room 101, just in case.

[Dyakovo]

Censorship is a great idea.

You can shape the deeds of people, by shaping their thoughts - and you can shape their thoughts by regulating what goes into their brain.

Censorship on it's own isn't enough, though - what you really need is the combination censorship AND carefully designed thought-profile-enhancing education.

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But only if GnI is in charge of it ^{(and I'm exempt)}

[Grave_n_idle]

I don't need som leftist pussy goverment (like my own), communist useful-idiots or fascist good-for-nothings tell me how to think.

Sure, that's what you think.

[Grave_n_idle]

Censorship is a great idea.

You can shape the deeds of people, by shaping their thoughts - and you can shape their thoughts by regulating what goes into their brain.

Censorship on it's own isn't enough, though - what you really need is the combination censorship AND carefully designed thought-profile-enhancing education.

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But only if GnI is in charge of it ^{(and I'm exempt)}

I'm already in charge. See the avatar? Look into the eyes...

[Baycosa]

There probably are some ideas that harmful and should not be allowed to be distributed in society. I don't know what they are, though, and I'm pretty sure the government doesn't, either, so until we find out, I don't see a reason for censoring material.

We have every idea, thought and picture on the net and still societies walls are not coming down. Why, because people always have a choice.

[Grave_n_idle]

There probably are some ideas that harmful and should not be allowed to be distributed in society. I don't know what they are, though, and I'm pretty sure the government doesn't, either, so until we find out, I don't see a reason for censoring material.

We have every idea, thought and picture on the net and still societies walls are not coming down. Why, because people always have a choice.

Should they have a choice?

Are you arguing that (for example) paedophilic images have a right to exist, because you can always 'choose' not to look?

[Enadail]

Censorship only works if everyone, everywhere censors something... then its no longer known and its not a problem.

The Soviet Union didn't fall because censorship fails... it fell because you could still get that information from the west.

Information is easier to shape then contain.

[Baycosa]

I don't need som leftist pussy goverment (like my own), communist useful-idiots or fascist good-for-nothings tell me how to think.

Sure, that's what you think.

No, that is what I know because I live quite comfortably without indoctrination. I form my own ideas, morals and reason based on my own sense of right and wrong.

[Baycosa]

Should they have a choice?

Are you arguing that (for example) paedophilic images have a right to exist, because you can always 'choose' not to look?

Yes, I think it's better to crack down upon the peddos making these pictures for abusing children and educate people about the wrongs of their ways for finding sexual comfort with those under the age of consent. If source and demand cease, the material cease. Choice is based upon demand.

[Grave_n_idle]

Should they have a choice?

Are you arguing that (for example) paedophilic images have a right to exist, because you can always 'choose' not to look?

Yes, I think it's better to crack down upon the peddos making these pictures for abusing children and educate people about the wrongs of their ways for finding sexual comfort with those under the age of consent. If source and demand cease, the material cease. Choice is based upon demand.

So, you want the 'right' to own and look at paedophile pornography?

[Baycosa]

Censorship only works if everyone, everywhere censors something... then its no longer known and its not a problem.

The Soviet Union didn't fall because censorship fails... it fell because you could still get that information from the west.

Information is easier to shape then contain.

People still defect from North Korea, they have are not getting any information from the west and are indoctrinated from birth.

[JuNii]

What do you think about Censorship in your country and in the U.S. Do you think it is a good or * CENSORED * idea? Does it work.

it depends on alot of factors.

Censorship in and of itself can either be good or bad. it's how it's used that makes a difference.

[Grave_n_idle]

I don't need som leftist pussy goverment (like my own), communist useful-idiots or fascist good-for-nothings tell me how to think.

Sure, that's what you think.

No, that is what I know because I live quite comfortably without indoctrination.

You're out driving in your car. It's 2am, there's no one else on the road.

You head around a long curve and spot the light 100yds in front of you turning red.

What's your FIRST response?

[Enadail]

People still defect from North Korea, they have are not getting any information from the west and are indoctrinated from birth.

If they were really THAT isolated, and that indoctrinated, they wouldn't really think about defecting, would they?

[New Limacon]

There probably are some ideas that harmful and should not be allowed to be distributed in society. I don't know what they are, though, and I'm pretty sure the government doesn't, either, so until we find out, I don't see a reason for censoring material.

We have every idea, thought and picture on the net and still societies walls are not coming down. Why, because people always have a choice.

First, I think it's a little depressing to imagine every possible idea, thought, and picture has already been formed. I also don't think it's true, although there's certainly a lot out there.
And I don't completely buy the "marketplace of ideas" philosophy, that you can proclaim your thoughts out on a soapbox (or in an academic journal), they will be discussed and debated, and eventually the best ideas will shine through. It doesn't work that neatly in the real marketplace, and I don't think it does with speech, either. Just as the government regulates what pharmaceutical companies can put in their product, so it makes sense it regulates, to a degree, what people can say. Key phrase is "to a degree," because regulation of speech should be much, much less than regulation of food or drugs. "Clear-and-present-danger," or whatever the modern test is, is an example.