Favorite conspiracy

[Grave_n_idle]

All the U means is that it's (U)nidentified. Which means it could be an owl, or a bat or a helicopter or ball lightning or... absolutely anything that you haven't currently identified. Getting from THAT to 'a good possibility' is an uphill climb with a lot of heavy lifting.

I thought "unidentified" meant outside of the bat, helicopter, ball, lightning category. That's why there's a "specific" name called, "UFO". Of course, if UFO aren't bat, balls, lightning, aliens could be one.

A bat would stop being a UFO once you could identify it. Which is why most UFOs go on to not be UFOs any more - we identify them.

We've still yet to find a single one that turned out to be aliens.

[Usanguk]

I thought "unidentified" meant outside of the bat, helicopter, ball, lightning category. That's why there's a "specific" name called, "UFO". Of course, if UFO aren't bat, balls, lightning, aliens could be one.

A bat would stop being a UFO once you could identify it. Which is why most UFOs go on to not be UFOs any more - we identify them.

We've still yet to find a single one that turned out to be aliens.

Yeah, but that doesn't mean there's zero possibility.

[Grave_n_idle]

A bat would stop being a UFO once you could identify it. Which is why most UFOs go on to not be UFOs any more - we identify them.

We've still yet to find a single one that turned out to be aliens.

Yeah, but that doesn't mean there's zero possibility.

You started out arguing it was a 'good possibility', and now you're arguing it could be non-zero.

I agree. It could be non-zero. But it's quite likely it actually IS zero.

It's the same as the 'god of gaps' arguments in religion - the more unidentified stuff we identify, the less stuff there is that turns out to be aliens.

[Usanguk]

Yeah, but that doesn't mean there's zero possibility.

You started out arguing it was a 'good possibility', and now you're arguing it could be non-zero.

I agree. It could be non-zero. But it's quite likely it actually IS zero.

It's the same as the 'god of gaps' arguments in religion - the more unidentified stuff we identify, the less stuff there is that turns out to be aliens.

Then, we wouldn't label them as unidentified. They're of unknown material or being if they're unindentified.
And yes, I'm consistent on the fact there is possibility.

[The Huskar Social Union]

That Crab People are not real.

They're a cancer on society.

*sigh*

Okay that one was pretty clever.

[Usanguk]

They're a cancer on society.

*sigh*

Okay that one was pretty clever.

However, he probably believes sheep people are real.

[Grave_n_idle]

You started out arguing it was a 'good possibility', and now you're arguing it could be non-zero.

I agree. It could be non-zero. But it's quite likely it actually IS zero.

It's the same as the 'god of gaps' arguments in religion - the more unidentified stuff we identify, the less stuff there is that turns out to be aliens.

Then, we wouldn't label them as unidentified.

They are unidentified UNTIL they are identified.

If you looked up all the 'UFO' sightings since, let's say, 2000 - and then you looked up how many of them are STILL considered unidentified, you'd find out it's only about 12.

Most of them, when reported, are quickly spotted as identifiable by someone else. And of the ones that are still unresolved, most of them are probably optical effects or unusual weather phenomena - because they historically usually are.

[Usanguk]

Then, we wouldn't label them as unidentified.

They are unidentified UNTIL they are identified.

If you looked up all the 'UFO' sightings since, let's say, 2000 - and then you looked up how many of them are STILL considered unidentified, you'd find out it's only about 12.

Most of them, when reported, are quickly spotted as identifiable by someone else. And of the ones that are still unresolved, most of them are probably optical effects or unusual weather phenomena - because they historically usually are.

All in all, universe is vast and continues to expand, there could be some other life form in the distant galaxy or Andromeda.

[The Grandest Empire]

Adolf Hitler didn't kill himself and escaped to Argentina

[Usanguk]

Adolf Hitler didn't kill himself and escaped to Argentina

Ah, those hoax conspiracies. There was one about Michael Jackson escaping to Hungary.

[Grave_n_idle]

They are unidentified UNTIL they are identified.

If you looked up all the 'UFO' sightings since, let's say, 2000 - and then you looked up how many of them are STILL considered unidentified, you'd find out it's only about 12.

Most of them, when reported, are quickly spotted as identifiable by someone else. And of the ones that are still unresolved, most of them are probably optical effects or unusual weather phenomena - because they historically usually are.

All in all, universe is vast and continues to expand, there could be some other life form in the distant galaxy or Andromeda.

Well sure. And if they are, indeed, in a different galaxy - they'll almost certainly never come here. And if they did, we'd never see them. Our nearest galaxy neighbour is 25,000 years away if speed-of-light travel was possible. Which it isn't. Even if Blob the Alien from Canis Major set out today, and even if it could travel at the speed of light - it would still take five times as long as ALL of recorded history for Blob to get here. And let's face it, we'll have wiped ourselves out long before that.

I'm not saying it's impossible there could have been, or still might be, alien lifeforms somewhere... I'm saying they'd be impossibly remote, and probably died out before we arrived, or will arrive long after we die out.

I hate to be a realist, I'm a big scifi fan, but we're just probably never meeting aliens.

[Usanguk]

All in all, universe is vast and continues to expand, there could be some other life form in the distant galaxy or Andromeda.

Well sure. And if they are, indeed, in a different galaxy - they'll almost certainly never come here. And if they did, we'd never see them. Our nearest galaxy neighbour is 25,000 years away if speed-of-light travel was possible. Which it isn't. Even if Blob the Alien from Canis Major set out today, and even if it could travel at the speed of light - it would still take five times as long as ALL of recorded history for Blob to get here. And let's face it, we'll have wiped ourselves out long before that.

I'm not saying it's impossible there could have been, or still might be, alien lifeforms somewhere... I'm saying they'd be impossibly remote, and probably died out before we arrived, or will arrive long after we die out.

I hate to be a realist, I'm a big scifi fan, but we're just probably never meeting aliens.

Only time will tell.

[Ifreann]

Honestly as mundane as it is, flat earthers.

Just because I can't figure out who is supposed to be profiting from 'the big lie' about the earth being round that they've gone to such lengths to 'conceal the truth.' Like is it a conspiracy of cartographers that somehow worked it out with astronomers? In there mind, why is it so important that people think the earth is round that they'd go to the lengths needed to create that impression?

Because if the Earth is just planet shaped then it's not special. It's not the centre of the universe, literally or figuratively. And They are evil and hate God and want to stop us from believing in God so that they can advance their Satanic secular progressive "scientific" agenda. Big overlap between flat Earthers and Q anon believers, incidentally.

[The Archregimancy]

I'll briefly outline some of my least favourite archaeology 'conspiracies' - limiting this to ones I've actually had to personally debunk in a professional capacity in the last five years:

1) The pyramids of Giza are ancient energy machines designed to produce and channel electricity.

2) The Sphinx (more specifically its back) is a landing platform for alien shuttles.

3) Olmec 'big heads' are proof of the Afro-Phoenician roots of Mesoamerican civilisation.

4) Hitler escaped to Argentina, as demonstrated by various 1940s archaeology sites.

[Usanguk]

I'll briefly outline some of my least favourite archaeology 'conspiracies' - limiting this to ones I've actually had to personally debunk in a professional capacity in the last five years:

1) The pyramids of Giza are ancient energy machines designed to produce and channel electricity.

2) The Sphinx (more specifically its back) is a landing platform for alien shuttles.

3) Olmec 'big heads' are proof of the Afro-Phoenician roots of Mesoamerican civilisation.

4) Hitler escaped to Argentina, as demonstrated by various 1940s archaeology sites.

I've heard of the second one, but there really wasn't supporting evidence, other than the fact UFOs have been spotted near it for some time.

[The Archregimancy]

I'll briefly outline some of my least favourite archaeology 'conspiracies' - limiting this to ones I've actually had to personally debunk in a professional capacity in the last five years:

1) The pyramids of Giza are ancient energy machines designed to produce and channel electricity.

2) The Sphinx (more specifically its back) is a landing platform for alien shuttles.

3) Olmec 'big heads' are proof of the Afro-Phoenician roots of Mesoamerican civilisation.

4) Hitler escaped to Argentina, as demonstrated by various 1940s archaeology sites.

I've heard of the second one, but there really wasn't supporting evidence, other than the fact UFOs have been spotted near it for some time.

No they haven't.

Just to make this unambiguously clear, there is absolutely no connection of any kind between the pyramids of Giza, the Great Sphinx, and aliens.

The Pyramids of Giza. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_long_did_ ... id_at_Giza

I don't think that we're very capable of such a think as moving a block of stone which is ~2000 pounds each from the stone quarries onto the pyramid at a rate of 1 every 4 minutes. We're not even capable of that today. I could see that a bit more if the stone quarry was actually at the site of the construction of the pyramids, but otherwise, not a chance.

And indeed, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Here's your Wiki Answers claim:

It took about 20 years to build the great pyramid of Giza.........

Humm...20 years... well ..lets do the math and see how this sums up.

so there are 2.5 million stones in the great pyramid.

20 years equates to roughly 10.5 million minutes

-20 years x 365 = 7,300 days..
-7,300 days x 24 hours = 175,200 hours
-175,200 hours x 60 minutes = 10,512,000 minutes

so then....

that means they were cutting stones from the quarry, transporting to the site and placing 1 stone every 4.2 minutes ...24/7/365 for 20 years straight non stop.

now there were 3 main quarries they used 2 of which were several kilometers away.

someone explain how they can believe this is true...

doesnt add up unless the "aliens" used space ships to help them move the stones...which weigh on average 2 tons, while the heaviest at the base can be up to 9 tons, that's 18,000 pounds!!!

that's all I got, you decide for yourself who "truly" build this wonderful monument.

Egyptians with ropes and rolling logs, or a "higher" power.....

This deliberately misrepresents some of what we know about the Great Pyramid, and ignores important research.
We don't even need an obscure academic paper for a site so iconic and well-known. A reputable and readily available well-researched popular history will easily suffice.

Pages 83-85 of The Rise and Fall of Ancient Egypt (2010, Bloomsbury) by Toby Wilkinson, Egyptologist and fellow of Clare College, Cambridge University:

The ancient Egyptian approach to any large scale undertaking was to divide it up into a series of more manageable units. When it came to pyramid-building and the organisation of a vast workforce, this proved both efficient and highly effective. The basic unit was probably a team of twenty men, each with its own team leader. This would immediately have produced a team spirit and a sense of friendly rivalry between teams, encouraging each to try and outdo the others; this was certainly the case with larger units of the workforce, as surviving inscriptions testify. Ten teams formed a two-hundred-strong division, known today by the Greek term phyle. Five phyles, each with its own leader and identity, made up a gang of two thousand workers. And two gangs, again with distinctive and often joky names (such as 'the king's drunkards'), comprised a crew, the largest unit of men … Team vied with team, phyle with phyle and gang with gang to be the best and win recognition. It was a simple and ingenious solution to a massive task, and it ensured that motivation was maintained.

It needed to be. Throughout the two decades it took to build the Great Pyramid, the construction work was hot, unrelenting, and dangerous. The conditions must have been particularly unpleasant in the main quarry, a few hundred yards south of the pyramid itself. Choking clouds of limestone dust, the blinding glare of the quarry face, the constant din of chisels, swarms of flies and the stench of sweated labour: it was not a pleasant environment. The rawest of recruits had to serve their time here , earnestly hoping for promotion – and working hard to achieve it. Not that the alternative was any less strenuous. Hauling the vast stone blocks from the quarry face to construction site was back-breaking work. Each block, weighing a ton or more, had to be levered on to a wooden sledge, then dragged by ropes along a carefully prepared trackway. At the end of this journey it had to be taken off the sledge again and moved carefully into position, ready for shaping an finishing. And all this at the pace of one block every two minutes, for ten hours a day.

Despite its superhuman scale, Khufu's monument was nevertheless a profoundly human achievement, and well within the capacity of ancient Egyptians. Calculations and practical experiments have shown that just two crews, or four thousand men, would have been sufficient to quarry, haul, and set in place the two million-plus stone blocks of which the pyramid is built. Perhaps the same size of workforce again would have been required to construct and maintain the vast ramps leading from the main quarry to the pyramid, and up the sides of the monument as it grew steadily in height. Another army of workers toiled behind the scenes to keep the whole operation going: carpenters to make the sledges for dragging huge blocks of stone; water carriers to lubricate the passage of the sledges along wood and mud trackways; potters to make the jars for the water carriers as well as the day-to-day ware for storage, cooking, and eating; smiths to forge and repair copper chisels for the quarrymen; bakers, brewers and cooks to supply the entire workforce. Even so, the number of people employed at any one time on the Great Pyramid project may not have risen much beyond ten thousand.

Wilkinson then goes on to describe the meticulously organised Pyramid-building support town of Gerget Khufu, which has been extensively excavated, and which provides important insight into the lives of the workers, and the 'rigidly hierarchical arrangement' of the workforce.

There is no real secret to the Great Pyramid. A totalitarian theocratic state with total control over its national labour pool was able to build a massive structure by careful organisation and motivation of that labour pool.

The Wiki Answers link misrepresents the quarrying activity (the sole primary quarry was less than a kilometre away), somewhat overestimates the average weight of the blocks (over 1 ton, but under 2, and marginally overestimates the number of stones in the pyramid (it's actually 2.3 million) - though by overestimating the average size of the blocks and the number of stones, it gets its total weight significantly wrong; likewise it radically overestimates the difficulties involved in transporting the blocks to the site. Ironically, though, it doubles the amount of time needed to place each block in turn. However, an important point to stress here is that an average of a block every two minutes shouldn't be taken as indicating that only one block was being placed at a time; it would be possible to place multiple blocks simultaneously on most of the pyramid's levels, with a block completed on average every two minutes, rather than place one block at a time with only two minutes to place and complete each block - this is a key mistake alien conspiracy fantasists make.

Some calculations that Wilkinson outlines for the Red Pyramid of Khufu's predecessor Sneferu are instructive here. Sneferu built three pyramids during his reign, and Great Pyramid conspiracy theorists often overlook the fact that the work rate necessary to build all three pyramids simultaneously was higher than that necessary for the Great Pyramid. But Wilkinson notes on page 80 that:

Remarkably, it has been calculated that [the] Red Pyramid ... could have been built in as little as ten and a half years. The extra effort involved in hauling blocks higher and higher up the pyramid was compensated for by the sharply reducing volume of the monument towards its apex. The first eleven courses of masonry (out of 157) accounted for 20 per cent of the pyramid's total volume. By the time the builders laid the sixty-sixth course (less than halfway up), they had accomplished 80 per cent of the work by volume. In such a way, with an unrelenting pace and enormous effort, the Red Pyramid was finished in good time.

It's also important to point out that the Egyptians took decades to perfect pyramid building - this wasn't something that just developed overnight. The step pyramid at Saqqara was built for Netjeriket/Djoser between c.2650-c.2620. The first attempt at a true pyramid, the bent pyramid of Sneferu, was started in c.2575. The reason it's bent is that a geologically inappropriate site insufficiently strong to support the weight was chosen, and too steep an incline was initially used. Sneferu's two subsequent pyramids learned from this mistake. By the time Khufu started his Great Pyramid in c.2545, the Egyptians had had a century of practice in making massive stone monuments, and a good 30 years to perfect the true pyramid.

No aliens are necessary.

[hmmm, though looking at that post eight years on, I did make one slight factual error; though Sneferu's Bent Pyramid was the first proper attempt at making a true pyramid, it was only the second of his pyramid attempts after the Meidum Pyramid, which he may have completed for his predecessor Huni].


Finally, writing as someone who's been to the Giza plateau on multiple occasions - who once had an office in Giza just a 30 minute walk from the pyramids - you'd be hard-pressed to land anything on the back of the Sphinx, never mind an alien shuttle.

[Loeje]

I'll briefly outline some of my least favourite archaeology 'conspiracies' - limiting this to ones I've actually had to personally debunk in a professional capacity in the last five years:

1) The pyramids of Giza are ancient energy machines designed to produce and channel electricity.

2) The Sphinx (more specifically its back) is a landing platform for alien shuttles.

3) Olmec 'big heads' are proof of the Afro-Phoenician roots of Mesoamerican civilisation.

4) Hitler escaped to Argentina, as demonstrated by various 1940s archaeology sites.

I heard of the third one, but I didn't realize it was a conspiracy. You always learn something new.

[The Archregimancy]

I'll briefly outline some of my least favourite archaeology 'conspiracies' - limiting this to ones I've actually had to personally debunk in a professional capacity in the last five years:

1) The pyramids of Giza are ancient energy machines designed to produce and channel electricity.

2) The Sphinx (more specifically its back) is a landing platform for alien shuttles.

3) Olmec 'big heads' are proof of the Afro-Phoenician roots of Mesoamerican civilisation.

4) Hitler escaped to Argentina, as demonstrated by various 1940s archaeology sites.

I heard of the third one, but I didn't realize it was a conspiracy. You always learn something new.

It depends on how you define 'conspiracy', I suppose, but it's essentially a racist Afro-centrist version of racist ancient aliens 'theories', in that it presumes that Mesoamericans were incapable of initiating their own cultural achievements without external help - in this case from 'Afro-Phoenicians', a category that's itself deeply problematic.

Anyone wanting more background could do worse than read this 1997 article in Current Anthropology.

[Tringapore]

I do recall a rather interesting conspiracy that claims that influential and famous figures around the world, like Mark Zuckerberg, HM Queen Elizabeth II, Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Hillary and Bill Clinton are all reptilians, lizard-like aliens that can shapeshift into humans.

If I'm not wrong, the conspiracy also claims that they have a greenish tint on their skin and have reptile irises.

[Nlarhyalo]

Rock and roll music, especially The Beatles, is a British intelligence plot to lead us into a dark age. Only classical music played in C=256 Hz Verdi tuning, and paired with a restoration of the Renaissance bel canto singing technique, can stop this trend and bring about a new political and cultural renaissance.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I do recall a rather interesting conspiracy that claims that influential and famous figures around the world, like Mark Zuckerberg, HM Queen Elizabeth II, Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Hillary and Bill Clinton are all reptilians, lizard-like aliens that can shapeshift into humans.

If I'm not wrong, the conspiracy also claims that they have a greenish tint on their skin and have reptile irises.

Yeah. There are videos online that claim to be evidence of this, with supposed glitches in their disguises. Where you can supposedly see the likes of Queen Elizabeth II’s “changing reptilian eyes”. But you can also distinguish the editing so eh.

[Lanoraie II]

This one's my favorite because it's so widespread: That the government actually cares about you and isn't doing everything in their power to control you.

Hilarious how many people genuinely believe that.

[The H Corporation]

The Earth is cubical, end of story

[Ethel mermania]

I've heard of the second one, but there really wasn't supporting evidence, other than the fact UFOs have been spotted near it for some time.

No they haven't.

Just to make this unambiguously clear, there is absolutely no connection of any kind between the pyramids of Giza, the Great Sphinx, and aliens.

And indeed, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Here's your Wiki Answers claim:

It took about 20 years to build the great pyramid of Giza.........

Humm...20 years... well ..lets do the math and see how this sums up.

so there are 2.5 million stones in the great pyramid.

20 years equates to roughly 10.5 million minutes

-20 years x 365 = 7,300 days..
-7,300 days x 24 hours = 175,200 hours
-175,200 hours x 60 minutes = 10,512,000 minutes

so then....

that means they were cutting stones from the quarry, transporting to the site and placing 1 stone every 4.2 minutes ...24/7/365 for 20 years straight non stop.

now there were 3 main quarries they used 2 of which were several kilometers away.

someone explain how they can believe this is true...

doesnt add up unless the "aliens" used space ships to help them move the stones...which weigh on average 2 tons, while the heaviest at the base can be up to 9 tons, that's 18,000 pounds!!!

that's all I got, you decide for yourself who "truly" build this wonderful monument.

Egyptians with ropes and rolling logs, or a "higher" power.....

This deliberately misrepresents some of what we know about the Great Pyramid, and ignores important research.
We don't even need an obscure academic paper for a site so iconic and well-known. A reputable and readily available well-researched popular history will easily suffice.

Pages 83-85 of The Rise and Fall of Ancient Egypt (2010, Bloomsbury) by Toby Wilkinson, Egyptologist and fellow of Clare College, Cambridge University:

The ancient Egyptian approach to any large scale undertaking was to divide it up into a series of more manageable units. When it came to pyramid-building and the organisation of a vast workforce, this proved both efficient and highly effective. The basic unit was probably a team of twenty men, each with its own team leader. This would immediately have produced a team spirit and a sense of friendly rivalry between teams, encouraging each to try and outdo the others; this was certainly the case with larger units of the workforce, as surviving inscriptions testify. Ten teams formed a two-hundred-strong division, known today by the Greek term phyle. Five phyles, each with its own leader and identity, made up a gang of two thousand workers. And two gangs, again with distinctive and often joky names (such as 'the king's drunkards'), comprised a crew, the largest unit of men … Team vied with team, phyle with phyle and gang with gang to be the best and win recognition. It was a simple and ingenious solution to a massive task, and it ensured that motivation was maintained.

It needed to be. Throughout the two decades it took to build the Great Pyramid, the construction work was hot, unrelenting, and dangerous. The conditions must have been particularly unpleasant in the main quarry, a few hundred yards south of the pyramid itself. Choking clouds of limestone dust, the blinding glare of the quarry face, the constant din of chisels, swarms of flies and the stench of sweated labour: it was not a pleasant environment. The rawest of recruits had to serve their time here , earnestly hoping for promotion – and working hard to achieve it. Not that the alternative was any less strenuous. Hauling the vast stone blocks from the quarry face to construction site was back-breaking work. Each block, weighing a ton or more, had to be levered on to a wooden sledge, then dragged by ropes along a carefully prepared trackway. At the end of this journey it had to be taken off the sledge again and moved carefully into position, ready for shaping an finishing. And all this at the pace of one block every two minutes, for ten hours a day.

Despite its superhuman scale, Khufu's monument was nevertheless a profoundly human achievement, and well within the capacity of ancient Egyptians. Calculations and practical experiments have shown that just two crews, or four thousand men, would have been sufficient to quarry, haul, and set in place the two million-plus stone blocks of which the pyramid is built. Perhaps the same size of workforce again would have been required to construct and maintain the vast ramps leading from the main quarry to the pyramid, and up the sides of the monument as it grew steadily in height. Another army of workers toiled behind the scenes to keep the whole operation going: carpenters to make the sledges for dragging huge blocks of stone; water carriers to lubricate the passage of the sledges along wood and mud trackways; potters to make the jars for the water carriers as well as the day-to-day ware for storage, cooking, and eating; smiths to forge and repair copper chisels for the quarrymen; bakers, brewers and cooks to supply the entire workforce. Even so, the number of people employed at any one time on the Great Pyramid project may not have risen much beyond ten thousand.

Wilkinson then goes on to describe the meticulously organised Pyramid-building support town of Gerget Khufu, which has been extensively excavated, and which provides important insight into the lives of the workers, and the 'rigidly hierarchical arrangement' of the workforce.

There is no real secret to the Great Pyramid. A totalitarian theocratic state with total control over its national labour pool was able to build a massive structure by careful organisation and motivation of that labour pool.

The Wiki Answers link misrepresents the quarrying activity (the sole primary quarry was less than a kilometre away), somewhat overestimates the average weight of the blocks (over 1 ton, but under 2, and marginally overestimates the number of stones in the pyramid (it's actually 2.3 million) - though by overestimating the average size of the blocks and the number of stones, it gets its total weight significantly wrong; likewise it radically overestimates the difficulties involved in transporting the blocks to the site. Ironically, though, it doubles the amount of time needed to place each block in turn. However, an important point to stress here is that an average of a block every two minutes shouldn't be taken as indicating that only one block was being placed at a time; it would be possible to place multiple blocks simultaneously on most of the pyramid's levels, with a block completed on average every two minutes, rather than place one block at a time with only two minutes to place and complete each block - this is a key mistake alien conspiracy fantasists make.

Some calculations that Wilkinson outlines for the Red Pyramid of Khufu's predecessor Sneferu are instructive here. Sneferu built three pyramids during his reign, and Great Pyramid conspiracy theorists often overlook the fact that the work rate necessary to build all three pyramids simultaneously was higher than that necessary for the Great Pyramid. But Wilkinson notes on page 80 that:

Remarkably, it has been calculated that [the] Red Pyramid ... could have been built in as little as ten and a half years. The extra effort involved in hauling blocks higher and higher up the pyramid was compensated for by the sharply reducing volume of the monument towards its apex. The first eleven courses of masonry (out of 157) accounted for 20 per cent of the pyramid's total volume. By the time the builders laid the sixty-sixth course (less than halfway up), they had accomplished 80 per cent of the work by volume. In such a way, with an unrelenting pace and enormous effort, the Red Pyramid was finished in good time.

It's also important to point out that the Egyptians took decades to perfect pyramid building - this wasn't something that just developed overnight. The step pyramid at Saqqara was built for Netjeriket/Djoser between c.2650-c.2620. The first attempt at a true pyramid, the bent pyramid of Sneferu, was started in c.2575. The reason it's bent is that a geologically inappropriate site insufficiently strong to support the weight was chosen, and too steep an incline was initially used. Sneferu's two subsequent pyramids learned from this mistake. By the time Khufu started his Great Pyramid in c.2545, the Egyptians had had a century of practice in making massive stone monuments, and a good 30 years to perfect the true pyramid.

No aliens are necessary.

[hmmm, though looking at that post eight years on, I did make one slight factual error; though Sneferu's Bent Pyramid was the first proper attempt at making a true pyramid, it was only the second of his pyramid attempts after the Meidum Pyramid, which he may have completed for his predecessor Huni].


Finally, writing as someone who's been to the Giza plateau on multiple occasions - who once had an office in Giza just a 30 minute walk from the pyramids - you'd be hard-pressed to land anything on the back of the Sphinx, never mind an alien shuttle.

Is it a conspiracy theory if its true.?

I heard a semi reputable archeologist, of some fame opened up a previously unopened tomb of a pharaoh, sometime around 2018 or 2019, if I remember how the story was told an ancient curse was unleashed upon this planet, one we are still suffering with today

[The Greater Caribbean]

Unsure if this has been shared but the Chemtrail conspiracy theory.