Blue Origin - would you go?

[New haven america]

Not if it supports Bezos, Branson, or Musk, no.

[Picairn]

Of course I'll go, when I can afford it.

[Heloin]

Despite the huge environmental costs?

I'd rather we spent our time building the matrix, without blowing up the sky first so it can be fully solar powered.

Then we just travel in our minds man..

*tokes*

Ny to Tokyo on the back of the bus is no fun, no fun at all.

How about a bus that can fly? We can call it an air bus.

[New haven america]

If I am flying nyc to Tokyo, and a sub orbital flight could be done in 4 hours instead of the usual 12, yes I would take the sub orbital flight assuming costs are within 40% of each other.

But why do you feel the need to pay considering Amazon and SpaceX are already stealing your money to fund these projects?

[Bombadil]

Despite the huge environmental costs?

I'd rather we spent our time building the matrix, without blowing up the sky first so it can be fully solar powered.

Then we just travel in our minds man..

*tokes*

Ny to Tokyo on the back of the bus is no fun, no fun at all.

You'd simply want to go to Tokyo and you'd be there, or you could fly if you want.. with your own wings..

Given the technologies we can focus on, I'd rather not focus on a massive fuel burning rocket that gets us from one place to another a few hours earlier.

I saw an automobile once when I was a kid. But, now they're everywhere. The world went and got itself in a big damn hurry.

[Ethel mermania]

Ny to Tokyo on the back of the bus is no fun, no fun at all.

How about a bus that can fly? We can call it an air bus.

The one thing the British, French and German agree on these days, they are going to sue your ass if you try any funny stuff

[Stellar Colonies]

I have an interest in space flight, but Blue Origin is too new, too Bezos, and too low in altitude for my satisfaction. I would’ve added too expensive as well, but the scenario apparently waives that.

If extra-atmospheric suborbital flight was an established and affordable industry operated by a trusted source, I’d almost certainly give it a shot.

[Farnhamia]

Ny to Tokyo on the back of the bus is no fun, no fun at all.

You'd simply want to go to Tokyo and you'd be there, or you could fly if you want.. with your own wings..

Given the technologies we can focus on, I'd rather not focus on a massive fuel burning rocket that gets us from one place to another a few hours earlier.

I saw an automobile once when I was a kid. But, now they're everywhere. The world went and got itself in a big damn hurry.

I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams.

I would go if there was ... It's like Gertrude Stein observed in an entirely different context, "There is no there there." For something like travelling into space, I would want a destination.

[Ethel mermania]

Ny to Tokyo on the back of the bus is no fun, no fun at all.

You'd simply want to go to Tokyo and you'd be there, or you could fly if you want.. with your own wings..

Given the technologies we can focus on, I'd rather not focus on a massive fuel burning rocket that gets us from one place to another a few hours earlier.

I saw an automobile once when I was a kid. But, now they're everywhere. The world went and got itself in a big damn hurry.

Bezos' model is not sustainable for transport. The fuel costs are absurd. Like musks Tesla in space this was a cheap publicity stunt.

There is a model for this, Concorde. It would have to work in a similar fashion to have a chance at turning a profit.

[Bombadil]

You'd simply want to go to Tokyo and you'd be there, or you could fly if you want.. with your own wings..

Given the technologies we can focus on, I'd rather not focus on a massive fuel burning rocket that gets us from one place to another a few hours earlier.

I saw an automobile once when I was a kid. But, now they're everywhere. The world went and got itself in a big damn hurry.

I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams.

I would go if there was ... It's like Gertrude Stein observed in an entirely different context, "There is no there there." For something like travelling into space, I would want a destination.

You can go see attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion, watch C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate.

Personally I'd be very happy attacking the Death Star in my X-Wing..

[Farnhamia]

You'd simply want to go to Tokyo and you'd be there, or you could fly if you want.. with your own wings..

Given the technologies we can focus on, I'd rather not focus on a massive fuel burning rocket that gets us from one place to another a few hours earlier.

I saw an automobile once when I was a kid. But, now they're everywhere. The world went and got itself in a big damn hurry.

Bezos' model is not sustainable for transport. The fuel costs are absurd. Like musks Tesla in space this was a cheap publicity stunt.

There is a model for this, Concorde. It would have to work in a similar fashion to have a chance at turning a profit.

These are stunts, true. Neil deGrasse Tyson made the point the other day that the early airplane industry started with stunts and carrying freight and not much else, and when passenger service came in, it was rich people who were the first customers. We'll need actually civilian destinations in space before that can happen, though.

[Farnhamia]

I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams.

I would go if there was ... It's like Gertrude Stein observed in an entirely different context, "There is no there there." For something like travelling into space, I would want a destination.

You can go see attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion, watch C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate.

Personally I'd be very happy attacking the Death Star in my X-Wing..

It's full of stars.

[Bombadil]

Bezos' model is not sustainable for transport. The fuel costs are absurd. Like musks Tesla in space this was a cheap publicity stunt.

There is a model for this, Concorde. It would have to work in a similar fashion to have a chance at turning a profit.

These are stunts, true. Neil deGrasse Tyson made the point the other day that the early airplane industry started with stunts and carrying freight and not much else, and when passenger service came in, it was rich people who were the first customers. We'll need actually civilian destinations in space before that can happen, though.

However with cars and planes we weren't quite so aware of the huge environmental impact they'd go on to have, as others have noted part of this is billionaires giving up on the planet.. first it was going to be libertarian sea cities, now it's off to unregulated space.

“The only way that I can see to deploy this much financial resource is by converting my Amazon winnings into space travel. That is basically it.” I admire the honesty of the sheer inhumanity this quote displays. What would you do with $200bn? Cure diseases? End hunger? Eradicate poverty in an entire nation? Nah. Build a bunch of space rockets! I simply can’t see any other way to get all of these cumbersome gold bars out of my personal vault.

It's unnecessary, or at least can wait for much cleaner propulsion technology.

[Cannot think of a name]

Not if it supports Bezos, Branson, or Musk, no.

I'm holding out for Delos Harriman myself.



Just came in to make the nerdiest reference...I'll leave my lunch money at the door.

[Farnhamia]

These are stunts, true. Neil deGrasse Tyson made the point the other day that the early airplane industry started with stunts and carrying freight and not much else, and when passenger service came in, it was rich people who were the first customers. We'll need actually civilian destinations in space before that can happen, though.

However with cars and planes we weren't quite so aware of the huge environmental impact they'd go on to have, as others have noted part of this is billionaires giving up on the planet.. first it was going to be libertarian sea cities, now it's off to unregulated space.

It's unnecessary, or at least can wait for much cleaner propulsion technology.

As long as there's no impact on Amazon's Prime delivery speed, I could care less if Jeff Bezos shoots himself into space. I'm not sure what exactly Richard Branson does except put his name on things, so him, too. I think getting up and out there would bring benefits, just like the early space race did. A couple of billionaires squandering money makes me no never-mind. Wealthy countries ought to be able to do this and clean things up down here. I don't think we will, but we can and we should.

[Cannot think of a name]

Ny to Tokyo on the back of the bus is no fun, no fun at all.

How about a bus that can fly? We can call it an air bus.

There's a 50s sci fi radio show where in order to demonstrate they were in the future they had helibuses.

But since I'm from NorCal I kept hearing it as 'hella buses.'

[Ethel mermania]

Bezos' model is not sustainable for transport. The fuel costs are absurd. Like musks Tesla in space this was a cheap publicity stunt.

There is a model for this, Concorde. It would have to work in a similar fashion to have a chance at turning a profit.

These are stunts, true. Neil deGrasse Tyson made the point the other day that the early airplane industry started with stunts and carrying freight and not much else, and when passenger service came in, it was rich people who were the first customers. We'll need actually civilian destinations in space before that can happen, though.

The moons of emdor.

[Cannot think of a name]

You'd simply want to go to Tokyo and you'd be there, or you could fly if you want.. with your own wings..

Given the technologies we can focus on, I'd rather not focus on a massive fuel burning rocket that gets us from one place to another a few hours earlier.

I saw an automobile once when I was a kid. But, now they're everywhere. The world went and got itself in a big damn hurry.

Bezos' model is not sustainable for transport. The fuel costs are absurd. Like musks Tesla in space this was a cheap publicity stunt.

I don't know why this bothers me and I'm loath to come to the 'defense' of these cats, but the Roadster was because it was a test flight for a cargo ship, so he had to put cargo in it that wouldn't matter if it exploded and nothing matters less than Musk's personal Roadster. Yes, using the roadster brought attention to the test but the whole flight wasn't just him going 'you know what I'm gonna do today? Launch my car into space, that'll show people how stupid rich I am!" He was testing the cargo carrying and deployment of his capsule and used his roadster to accomplish that.

[Heloin]

How about a bus that can fly? We can call it an air bus.

There's a 50s sci fi radio show where in order to demonstrate they were in the future they had helibuses.

But since I'm from NorCal I kept hearing it as 'hella buses.'

I've seen the Mi-26 before and if I had to describe that helicopter as anything bus would definitely be appropriate.

[Ethel mermania]

Bezos' model is not sustainable for transport. The fuel costs are absurd. Like musks Tesla in space this was a cheap publicity stunt.

I don't know why this bothers me and I'm loath to come to the 'defense' of these cats, but the Roadster was because it was a test flight for a cargo ship, so he had to put cargo in it that wouldn't matter if it exploded and nothing matters less than Musk's personal Roadster. Yes, using the roadster brought attention to the test but the whole flight wasn't just him going 'you know what I'm gonna do today? Launch my car into space, that'll show people how stupid rich I am!" He was testing the cargo carrying and deployment of his capsule and used his roadster to accomplish that.

I am the capitalist pig here, I am fine with this. I think these billionaires are driving down the cost of space. Private enterprise simply Innovates faster the public. There is no incentive to innovate or bring the price down on a costs plus government contract. If anything when the government gives you billions and you fail, there is going to be a congressional investigation and you are lucky to stay out of jail. You blow up Branson's billion dollar flying penis, worst happens you get fired, and most likely these guys have a much higher tolerance for failure than the feds do.

If space becomes affordable, and that's a pretty big if, these clowns are the start of it.

I agree with you,, Bezos was proving a point he can deliver cargo and people into low space orbit by putting his butt in the seat, and the raft of free publicity is worth millions of dollars.

[New haven america]

I don't know why this bothers me and I'm loath to come to the 'defense' of these cats, but the Roadster was because it was a test flight for a cargo ship, so he had to put cargo in it that wouldn't matter if it exploded and nothing matters less than Musk's personal Roadster. Yes, using the roadster brought attention to the test but the whole flight wasn't just him going 'you know what I'm gonna do today? Launch my car into space, that'll show people how stupid rich I am!" He was testing the cargo carrying and deployment of his capsule and used his roadster to accomplish that.

I am the capitalist pig here, I am fine with this. I think these billionaires are driving down the cost of space. Private enterprise simply Innovates faster the public. There is no incentive to innovate or bring the price down on a costs plus government contract. If anything when the government gives you billions and you fail, there is going to be a congressional investigation and you are lucky to stay out of jail. You blow up Branson's billion dollar flying penis, worst happens you get fired, and most likely these guys have a much higher tolerance for failure than the feds do.

If space becomes affordable, and that's a pretty big if, these clowns are the start of it.

I agree with you,, Bezos was proving a point he can deliver cargo and people into low space orbit by putting his butt in the seat, and the raft of free publicity is worth millions of dollars.

Except for the fact that the government is giving these projects billions of dollars.

Multi-millionaires and billionaires are the largest recipients of government aid, as well as the fact that these projects are receiving subsidies.

And guess where the money for both of those comes from?

[The Hazar Amisnery]

if the spacecraft was like a modern plane with seats and toilets and food, I would go. But if it was some rocket and I have to be strapped in and wear a jumpsuit, no. Also, how would this work with airports? I wouldn't want to live near an airport with planes hurtling through the atmosphere and hearing a sonic boom every few minutes.

[Heloin]

if the spacecraft was like a modern plane with seats and toilets and food, I would go. But if it was some rocket and I have to be strapped in and wear a jumpsuit, no.

I mean, Bezos flight was ten minutes.

Also, how would this work with airports? I wouldn't want to live near an airport with planes hurtling through the atmosphere and hearing a sonic boom every few minutes.

Ask anyone who lives near a airforce or navy base.

[Bombadil]

Bezos' model is not sustainable for transport. The fuel costs are absurd. Like musks Tesla in space this was a cheap publicity stunt.

I don't know why this bothers me and I'm loath to come to the 'defense' of these cats, but the Roadster was because it was a test flight for a cargo ship, so he had to put cargo in it that wouldn't matter if it exploded and nothing matters less than Musk's personal Roadster. Yes, using the roadster brought attention to the test but the whole flight wasn't just him going 'you know what I'm gonna do today? Launch my car into space, that'll show people how stupid rich I am!" He was testing the cargo carrying and deployment of his capsule and used his roadster to accomplish that.

The roadster was to launch David Bowie into space to go negotiate peace treaties with aliens, that's the real truth.

[Heloin]

I don't know why this bothers me and I'm loath to come to the 'defense' of these cats, but the Roadster was because it was a test flight for a cargo ship, so he had to put cargo in it that wouldn't matter if it exploded and nothing matters less than Musk's personal Roadster. Yes, using the roadster brought attention to the test but the whole flight wasn't just him going 'you know what I'm gonna do today? Launch my car into space, that'll show people how stupid rich I am!" He was testing the cargo carrying and deployment of his capsule and used his roadster to accomplish that.

The roadster was to launch David Bowie into space to go negotiate peace treaties with aliens, that's the real truth.

They haven't invaded yet so one can only assume that negotiations are going well.