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Would you go on a rocket for a sub-oribtal flight?

Yes - I was born ready!
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Maybe - I feel like I would need some testing/training to see if my body can cope with the G forces...
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No - Bad enough fear of flying as it is...
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Blue Origin - would you go?

Postby Nanocyberia » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:35 am

I'm sure many of you are aware the recent launch of Blue Origin, that carried Jeff Bezos and crew...

Yes, criticism of this and that... Whatever...

Let us simplify things; I'm curious:
Suppose that sub-orbital flights are routine (and actually take you places in record time--so planes become old school) and affordable (okay, a bit more expensive than planes but still within reason).
Would you still go on one?
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:36 am

Not if Jeff Bezos was involved in any way.
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:38 am

Ifreann wrote:Not if Jeff Bezos was involved in any way.

I think the OP is saying in this scenario that you will be on an equivalent of airlines.
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Postby Nanocyberia » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:50 am

Drew Durrnil wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Not if Jeff Bezos was involved in any way.

I think the OP is saying in this scenario that you will be on an equivalent of airlines.

This.

(But really, it shouldn't matter if Musk or Branson or some other multimillionaire/billionaire was involved--plenty such people already rake obscene amounts of money just from fossil fuels, and it doesn't bother some people in the slightest...)
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Postby Kragholm Free States » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:51 am

Well sure I'd go on one if they're as practical and affordable as the OP scenario says. Who wouldn't? But if I was planning to, I think it'd be a good idea to get at least some training beforehand.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:56 am

Doesn't seem worth the money or energy. I have no pressing desire to go to space or go abroad so its just a waste of resources I could be using on something I care about more.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:13 am

I'm much more interested in where this tech is going.

And I also, one day, want to cross the Atlantic on a blimp. Coz blimps are pretty pimp.

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Postby Nanocyberia » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:38 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Doesn't seem worth the money or energy. I have no pressing desire to go to space or go abroad so its just a waste of resources I could be using on something I care about more.

Maybe that lack of desire to travel is due to extensive journey times... :eyebrow: (I can relate--I'm not a traveller myself...but I certainly wouldn't mind a brief trip to space!)

Anyway--consider:
- a plane flight requiring 20 hours to cover a given distance, ticket price 300 euros;
- versus a rocket that would take only 5 hours, for 900 euros (maybe even a "holiday special", at only 750 euros)...

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Postby Galloism » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:42 am

Nanocyberia wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Doesn't seem worth the money or energy. I have no pressing desire to go to space or go abroad so its just a waste of resources I could be using on something I care about more.

Maybe that lack of desire to travel is due to extensive journey times... :eyebrow: (I can relate--I'm not a traveller myself...but I certainly wouldn't mind a brief trip to space!)

Anyway--consider:
- a plane flight requiring 20 hours to cover a given distance, ticket price 300 euros;
- versus a rocket that would take only 5 hours, for 900 euros (maybe even a "holiday special", at only 750 euros)...

I want a window seat.
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:45 am

Galloism wrote:
Nanocyberia wrote:Maybe that lack of desire to travel is due to extensive journey times... :eyebrow: (I can relate--I'm not a traveller myself...but I certainly wouldn't mind a brief trip to space!)

Anyway--consider:
- a plane flight requiring 20 hours to cover a given distance, ticket price 300 euros;
- versus a rocket that would take only 5 hours, for 900 euros (maybe even a "holiday special", at only 750 euros)...

I want a window seat.

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Postby Atomic Testing Museum » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:48 am

I would go if I could do it for free. Other than that the whole thing sounds like a pretty useless and unnecessary waste of time and money . Also Jeff Bezos doesn't need more money.
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Postby Nanocyberia » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:56 am

Atomic Testing Museum wrote:I would go if I could do it for free. Other than that the whole thing sounds like a pretty useless and unnecessary waste of time and money . Also Jeff Bezos doesn't need more money.

Right...but you don't seem to have considered my hypothetical scenario...

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:41 pm

If I am flying nyc to Tokyo, and a sub orbital flight could be done in 4 hours instead of the usual 12, yes I would take the sub orbital flight assuming costs are within 40% of each other.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:06 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:I'm much more interested in where this tech is going.

And I also, one day, want to cross the Atlantic on a blimp. Coz blimps are pretty pimp.

"Rigid airship."

As long as it's filled with safe, nonflammable helium.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:25 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:I'm much more interested in where this tech is going.

And I also, one day, want to cross the Atlantic on a blimp. Coz blimps are pretty pimp.

"Rigid airship."

As long as it's filled with safe, nonflammable helium.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:08 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Not if Jeff Bezos was involved in any way.

I think the OP is saying in this scenario that you will be on an equivalent of airlines.

And I'm saying I don't want to visit Almost Space on Bezos Air.
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Postby Untecna » Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:12 pm

If the costs went down enough and it had plenty of successful flights, I might consider it.
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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:13 pm

I think I could come up with something more productive to do with a quarter of a million bucks than taking a chance of blowing up on the launch pad, suffocating if the capsule fails or burning up on reentry. No thanks.
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Postby Immortan Khan » Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:13 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Drew Durrnil wrote:I think the OP is saying in this scenario that you will be on an equivalent of airlines.

And I'm saying I don't want to visit Almost Space on Bezos Air.

Fwiw Bezos did definitively reach outer space as they passed the Karman line.
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Postby Kragholm Free States » Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:42 pm

Postauthoritarian America wrote:I think I could come up with something more productive to do with a quarter of a million bucks than taking a chance of blowing up on the launch pad, suffocating if the capsule fails or burning up on reentry. No thanks.


Sure, and on your way to spend it more wisely you could fall down a flight of stairs and break your neck or get hit by a speeding car while crossing the road. Why not take a chance?

Besides, OP specified in this scenario that space flights only cost a bit more than conventional aeroplane flights, so there is no quarter of a million bucks involved.
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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:47 pm

Immortan Khan wrote:
Ifreann wrote:And I'm saying I don't want to visit Almost Space on Bezos Air.

Fwiw Bezos did definitively reach outer space as they passed the Karman line.


Immaterial according to this analysis. They rocketed up and fell back down. Arguably at no point did their centrifugal force overcome their need for propulsion in order to get to wherever it is they were; ergo they never "reached outer space."
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:53 pm

Postauthoritarian America wrote:
Immortan Khan wrote:Fwiw Bezos did definitively reach outer space as they passed the Karman line.


Immaterial according to this analysis. They rocketed up and fell back down. Arguably at no point did their centrifugal force overcome their need for propulsion in order to get to wherever it is they were; ergo they never "reached outer space."

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Postby Bombadil » Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:02 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:If I am flying nyc to Tokyo, and a sub orbital flight could be done in 4 hours instead of the usual 12, yes I would take the sub orbital flight assuming costs are within 40% of each other.


Despite the huge environmental costs?

I'd rather we spent our time building the matrix, without blowing up the sky first so it can be fully solar powered.

Then we just travel in our minds man..

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:32 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:If I am flying nyc to Tokyo, and a sub orbital flight could be done in 4 hours instead of the usual 12, yes I would take the sub orbital flight assuming costs are within 40% of each other.


Despite the huge environmental costs?

I'd rather we spent our time building the matrix, without blowing up the sky first so it can be fully solar powered.

Then we just travel in our minds man..

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