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Postby Sungoldy-China » Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:54 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
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In another twenty years, it will be amazing to see what kind of world we will face .


I don't think "amazing" is the right word here.


In the Shang Dynasty, the temperature in northern China was 3-5 degrees Celsius higher than the current temperature.
At that time, the north had more rainfall than the arid north. At that time, there were elephant herds in the north.

A few days ago, the news claim that China’s Asian elephants moved northward, We joked that those elephants feel the time has come and they should return to to their promised land-Henan,
Henan, the northern province of China, means "big elephant" in ancient Chinese,

And from a biological point of view, several major biological explosions when earth’s temperature rose.

Therefore I will be amazing.
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Postby Engadine Mcdonalds 1997 » Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:03 am

Jesus, this is terrible and the first I've heard about this as well! It makes you wonder how these 'climate sceptics' are reacting to this, as well as the previous climate challenges that have really increased these past few months alone
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Postby Blattodean Dictyop » Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:57 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:While evacuees from the Netherlands and Belgium are slowly allowd to go back to (the remnants of) their houses, the floods in Germany continue and have now reached the Bavaria region - where people are being evacuated.

A German live blog, google translated for convenience: https://translate.google.com/translate? ... item-67471


It's only a matter of time before that Danube flood reaches Budapest - Orbán is about to get a verdict on his climate action.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:15 pm

Blattodean Dictyop wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:While evacuees from the Netherlands and Belgium are slowly allowd to go back to (the remnants of) their houses, the floods in Germany continue and have now reached the Bavaria region - where people are being evacuated.

A German live blog, google translated for convenience: https://translate.google.com/translate? ... item-67471


It's only a matter of time before that Danube flood reaches Budapest - Orbán is about to get a verdict on his climate action.


Poor city of Pest. Buda will be relatively fine though, it's hillier.
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Postby Page » Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:15 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Sungoldy-China wrote:
In another twenty years, it will be amazing to see what kind of world we will face .


I don't think "amazing" is the right word here.


Amazeballs actually fits better, because it conveys both awe and nihilism. Also just now noticed google chrome doesn't put a red spelling check line under amazeballs. What a time we live in.
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Postby Page » Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:17 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:While evacuees from the Netherlands and Belgium are slowly allowd to go back to (the remnants of) their houses, the floods in Germany continue and have now reached the Bavaria region - where people are being evacuated.

A German live blog, google translated for convenience: https://translate.google.com/translate? ... item-67471


If it's in Bairisch then you have to translate it to German before you even think about translating it to English. (If you're a German learner who knows what the Bavarian dialect sounds like this is a very funny joke.)
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Postby Esternial » Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:08 pm

Having driven through/along some of the affected areas, I can't even imagine the impact on those that actually live there...

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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:00 pm

Page wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:While evacuees from the Netherlands and Belgium are slowly allowd to go back to (the remnants of) their houses, the floods in Germany continue and have now reached the Bavaria region - where people are being evacuated.

A German live blog, google translated for convenience: https://translate.google.com/translate? ... item-67471


If it's in Bairisch then you have to translate it to German before you even think about translating it to English. (If you're a German learner who knows what the Bavarian dialect sounds like this is a very funny joke.)


Very true. My German is decent; but whenever I am in that region I really have trouble understanding people.
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Postby The Socialist Republic of Astrakhan » Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:05 pm

Belgium must be flooded , I wish all people living in the Western countries ate some cake and slept.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:04 am

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If it helps, the Dutch word is "dijk" :P
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Postby Kowani » Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:47 am

Germany wants the EU to help them rebuild

The German government aims to rebuild infrastructure damaged by deadly floods in the western part of the country as quickly as possible and hopes for financial support from the European Union's solidarity fund, a draft document showed. As the search continues for survivors of last week's catastrophic floods which swept away houses and bridges and left at least 160 people dead, Germany is starting to count the financial cost of its worst natural disaster in almost 60 years. The federal government plans to provide 200 million euros ($236 million) in emergency aid to repair buildings, damaged local infrastructure and to help people in crisis situations, the draft document, due to go to cabinet on Wednesday, showed.

If the 16 federal states also contribute 200 million, a total of 400 million euros will be available in immediate aid, it said.

The government will apply to the EU for help from a fund set up to deal with natural disasters across the bloc, it said. [...] "The federal government will do everything needed to restore the federally owned infrastructure as quickly as possible," it said in the draft document.

"Dealing with the damage and rebuilding the infrastructure will require a major financial effort in the coming years," it said, adding it was ready to set up a fund for future big disasters that hit several regions. The states could contribute to such a fund.

During a visit on Saturday to parts of Belgium also hit by the floods, European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen told the communities Europe was with them. "We are with you in mourning and we will be with you in rebuilding," she said. Southern Germany has also been hit by floods and the state of Bavaria is initially making 50 million euros available in emergency aid for victims, Bavaria's premier said on Tuesday. German Environment Minister Svenja Schulze called for greater financial resources to prevent extreme weather events caused by climate change.

"The current events in so many places in Germany show with what force the consequences of climate change can hit us all," she told the Augsburger Allgemeine newspaper.

Currently, the government is limited in what it can do to support flood and drought prevention by the constitution, she said, adding she would favour anchoring adaptations for climate change in the Basic Law.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:15 am

Kowani wrote:Germany wants the EU to help them rebuild

The German government aims to rebuild infrastructure damaged by deadly floods in the western part of the country as quickly as possible and hopes for financial support from the European Union's solidarity fund, a draft document showed. As the search continues for survivors of last week's catastrophic floods which swept away houses and bridges and left at least 160 people dead, Germany is starting to count the financial cost of its worst natural disaster in almost 60 years. The federal government plans to provide 200 million euros ($236 million) in emergency aid to repair buildings, damaged local infrastructure and to help people in crisis situations, the draft document, due to go to cabinet on Wednesday, showed.

If the 16 federal states also contribute 200 million, a total of 400 million euros will be available in immediate aid, it said.

The government will apply to the EU for help from a fund set up to deal with natural disasters across the bloc, it said. [...] "The federal government will do everything needed to restore the federally owned infrastructure as quickly as possible," it said in the draft document.

"Dealing with the damage and rebuilding the infrastructure will require a major financial effort in the coming years," it said, adding it was ready to set up a fund for future big disasters that hit several regions. The states could contribute to such a fund.

During a visit on Saturday to parts of Belgium also hit by the floods, European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen told the communities Europe was with them. "We are with you in mourning and we will be with you in rebuilding," she said. Southern Germany has also been hit by floods and the state of Bavaria is initially making 50 million euros available in emergency aid for victims, Bavaria's premier said on Tuesday. German Environment Minister Svenja Schulze called for greater financial resources to prevent extreme weather events caused by climate change.

"The current events in so many places in Germany show with what force the consequences of climate change can hit us all," she told the Augsburger Allgemeine newspaper.

Currently, the government is limited in what it can do to support flood and drought prevention by the constitution, she said, adding she would favour anchoring adaptations for climate change in the Basic Law.


They are indeed limited thanks to the 57th Amendment(2009), of which this is a part:

Article 109, Section 3 of German Basic Law wrote:The budgets of the Federal Republic and the States shall, in principle, be balanced without revenue from credits. The Federal Republic and States may introduce rules intended to take into account, symmetrically in times of upswing and downswing, the effects of market developments that deviate from normal conditions, as well as exceptions for natural disasters or unusual emergency situations beyond governmental control and substantially harmful to the state’s financial capacity. For such exceptional regimes, a corresponding amortisation plan must be adopted. Details for the budget of the Federal Republic shall be governed by Article 115 with the proviso that the first sentence shall be deemed to be satisfied if revenue from credits does not exceed 0.35 per cent in relation to the nominal gross domestic product. The States themselves shall regulate details for the budgets within the framework of their constitutional powers, the proviso being that the first sentence shall only be deemed to be satisfied if no revenue from credits is admitted.


And this is why Balanced Budget Amendments are a terrible idea on the national level.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:39 am

Also floods caused by rain in China now: https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chi ... 021-07-22/

The amount of rain that fell there was even higher than the amount in Germany...
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Postby Sungoldy-China » Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:19 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:Also floods caused by rain in China now: https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chi ... 021-07-22/

The amount of rain that fell there was even higher than the amount in Germany...


It appeared in Henan Province.

In the Shang Dynasty in 1600 BC, Henan was a place full of rain and rivers. Therefore, the ancient name of Henan was the "big elephant". Because Henan used to be the humid forest like Southeast Asia with countless Asian elephants living. After that, Henan gradually became cold and dry, and the natural conditions became worse and worse.

but as the climate changes happen, Henan has received a lot of rain again, which is a disaster for unprepared artificial facilities, but for Henan it has a chance to return to his glorious period.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:20 am

Massive floods in Maharashtra , India caused at least 125 deaths...

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/worl ... trap-more-
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Postby Esternial » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:37 am

Weather forecasts in Belgium today are concerning.

https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belg ... ew-floods/

Lets hope the rainfall this weekend doesn't make things worse...

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Postby Esternial » Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:06 pm

Esternial wrote:Weather forecasts in Belgium today are concerning.

https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belg ... ew-floods/

Lets hope the rainfall this weekend doesn't make things worse...

Well, seems like I jinxed it. Widespread destruction in Dinant, and it seems London is suffering from floods now as well.

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Postby Christian Confederation » Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:16 pm

China and Major Cities around the world are all flooding at the same time. That's kinda suspicious ngl. This is a wake up call to quicken our efforts for total nuclear power.
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Postby Esternial » Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:26 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:China and Major Cities around the world are all flooding at the same time. That's kinda suspicious ngl. This is a wake up call to quicken our efforts for total nuclear power.

Sad that it takes widespread destruction for more people to take things seriously. I'm hoping action will be taken.

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Postby Christian Confederation » Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:38 pm

Esternial wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:China and Major Cities around the world are all flooding at the same time. That's kinda suspicious ngl. This is a wake up call to quicken our efforts for total nuclear power.

Sad that it takes widespread destruction for more people to take things seriously. I'm hoping action will be taken.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features ... ur-weather

We can't be to fast. It may sound good to stop using fossil fuels immediately but that would lead to the deaths of countless people because of lack of food caused by the end of Food Transportation. We need to cut back as much Fossil Fuels as possible, Plant more trees, and Invest heavily Into Nuclear Power and Alternative Fuels.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:53 pm

I suspect China may be underreporting the deaths in this latest round of flooding. From everything I've seen it's hard to believe the numbers are as low as they claim.

I would very much like to be wrong about this, of course.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:14 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:I suspect China may be underreporting the deaths in this latest round of flooding. From everything I've seen it's hard to believe the numbers are as low as they claim.

I would very much like to be wrong about this, of course.

I saw a video where an entire tunnel was flooded and you couldn’t see the opening of the tunnel. There where probably 50-100 cars floating on the surface, with who knows how many in that tunnel
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Postby Bombadil » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:46 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:China and Major Cities around the world are all flooding at the same time. That's kinda suspicious ngl. This is a wake up call to quicken our efforts for total nuclear power.


Pretty sure we'll keep hitting the snooze button.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:47 pm

Flying under the radar, New Zealand also had significant flooding with over 3,000 people evacuated from their homes at one point (this was at the same time as the floods in Germany). The Buller River was flowing at its highest level since 1926, and the heaviest rainfall recorded in the district I live was 544.5 millimetres (21.4 inches) in 36 hours.
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