Republicans Rounding Up Democrats in Texas

[San Lumen]

I see the thread has somewhat gone off track (what a surprise) but as to the original question, I have a proposal. Legislators who miss more than a certain small number of successive votes should be removed from the legislature and the person with the second largest number of votes in their election put in their seat. As that is usually a member of the opposite party, it would deter legislators from running off.

They haven’t missed votes and secondly your proposal would be unconstitutional and illegal as the seat would change hands without an election. That’s completely undemocratic and unfair.

The reason they left is too prevent quorum so the legislature cannot function.

[Pre-Christian Persecuted People]

USA has committed suicide as a nation. Every single person not corrupted knows what happened in the election 2020 and these guys, in their complete hatred for Trump, got help from China and Iran and are yet to realize the irreversible damage they did to this country just to dislodge him. I mean, cant you lot have waited for 4 more years? Media, even the army and many institutions belongs to you. Republicans do not really control anything.

Within a few years, we will see the tyranny of China in full scale and USA would be weak to stop any of it. Even now Democrats are playing idiotic games. Ah well, when the barbarians invaded the land of Zoroastrians, the first to be beheaded were the priestly class who betrayed the Zoroastrian king.

We will all witness the outcome of USA within the few years. Such a tragedy.

[Necroghastia]

USA has committed suicide as a nation. Every single person not corrupted knows what happened in the election 2020

i'll bite, what happened lol

and these guys,

"these guys" being?

in their complete hatred for Trump, got help from China and Iran

lolwut

and are yet to realize the irreversible damage they did to this country just to dislodge him. I mean, cant you lot have waited for 4 more years?

irreversible damage like...?

Media, even the army and many institutions belongs to you. Republicans do not really control anything.

LMFAO pull the other one

Within a few years, we will see the tyranny of China in full scale and USA would be weak to stop any of it. Even now Democrats are playing idiotic games. Ah well, when the barbarians invaded the land of Zoroastrians, the first to be beheaded were the priestly class who betrayed the Zoroastrian king.

We will all witness the outcome of USA within the few years. Such a tragedy.

lolwut

[The Republic of Fore]

1. Don't need to hand out narcotics to have empathy. Or does Tylenol not exist where you're from? Considering that the opioid epidemic killed 90,000 people last year I'd say It's better for your friend to not give them narcotics.

Oh? I didn't know you were a doctor! Let alone that you were the prescribing doctor in that story!

2. Do whatever you want, doesn't change that everyone still has to learn how to deal with someone saying mean things. I don't owe support to other people who can't do anything to help themselves. Anybody who would rather squeal "but life isn't fair!" While doing nothing to improve their own life is lazy, period. Show me the law that says I have to support anyone. Society also relies on everyone contributing, not laying on their butt wailing about how hard life is and demanding everyone else support them.

Yeah, the only person laying on their butt wailing about how hard life is is you.

1. No, I'm a medical student.
2. Wrong again, I actually did something to improve my life. There's millions of worthless losers in this country who've never worked a day and still think everyone owes them a handout.

[Pre-Christian Persecuted People]

USA has committed suicide as a nation. Every single person not corrupted knows what happened in the election 2020

i'll bite, what happened lol

and these guys,

"these guys" being?

in their complete hatred for Trump, got help from China and Iran

lolwut

and are yet to realize the irreversible damage they did to this country just to dislodge him. I mean, cant you lot have waited for 4 more years?

irreversible damage like...?

Media, even the army and many institutions belongs to you. Republicans do not really control anything.

LMFAO pull the other one

Within a few years, we will see the tyranny of China in full scale and USA would be weak to stop any of it. Even now Democrats are playing idiotic games. Ah well, when the barbarians invaded the land of Zoroastrians, the first to be beheaded were the priestly class who betrayed the Zoroastrian king.

We will all witness the outcome of USA within the few years. Such a tragedy.

lolwut

Its okay bro, no need to try and discredit me, since we are just in a game and its not like I can convince anyone online, I am not a threat. You will see that damage soon, it has already started but it is sad you and many others don't see it. That "trust" among so many other things is gone and no matter how much anyone tries, even by corrupting the youth, the country cannot be unified, ever again.

And if you really think media and all institutions are independent..... well, may you be happy living in that life bro.

I will just say this, empires that start, come to an end. I think this time, it is US turn. I don't think those in power know in full what they did, dislodging Trump this way (cant understand why, they control almost everything) and not in fair and square manner... maybe it was fate, but country is internally irreparably destroyed. I think you might see the results in a few years... if you are lucky... till then, may you and other Americans be happy living with their own conclusions.

[The Republic of Fore]

So more cheap excuses, and of course there's groups working to change it. Anybody can make up a cause to beg for donations. I can tell you what the problem is. Large numbers of us who want nothing better than to lay in some torn up trailer and repeat "buh my land! the white man took mah landdd!" rather than try to be anything in life. And those of us who actually do try and succeed are just apples, or disrespecting our ancestors. Ain't no implicit bias stopping you from applying to college. College administrators jump at every chance to brag about how diverse their campus is. They bend over backwards to admit us.

"nooooooooooooooooooooooooo nothing can actually be wrong with society people are just lazy whiners"

Literally you rn and it's ridiculous. Be honest have you ever even actually studied the topic?

"Nooo people who are perfectly capable of working but chose to lay around and collect welfare are victims man! How dare you suggest that they try!" Literally every whiny excuse maker. I don't need to study to know that you can't succeed if you can't be bothered to stop wailing about how unfair life is for five minutes and try to do something for yourself. All those "poor oppressed victims" who sold drugs because the big bad society didn't want them to succeed would have been better off working at mcdonalds. The average drug dealer earns less than minimum wage. I don't see why society should change. Why should people who work for a living support people who refuse?

[Necroghastia]

i'll bite, what happened lol

"these guys" being?

lolwut

irreversible damage like...?

LMFAO pull the other one

lolwut

Its okay bro, no need to try and discredit me, since we are just in a game and its not like I can convince anyone online, I am not a threat.

i'm just trying to get you to be less vague, that's all.

You will see that damage soon, it has already started but it is sad you and many others don't see it.

my my, it's almost as though you're being so vague about whatever this damage is as an excuse to say the sheep can't see it

And if you really think media and all institutions are independent..... well, may you be happy living in that life bro.

where did i say that lol

I will just say this, empires that start, come to an end. I think this time, it is US turn. I don't think those in power know in full what they did, dislodging Trump this way

in what way? be specific

(cant understand why, they control almost everything)

lol i fucking wish i lived in your world

and not in fair and square manner...

what wasn't fair? be specific

maybe it was fate, but country is internally irreparably destroyed.

how so? be specific

[The Republic of Fore]

I see the thread has somewhat gone off track (what a surprise) but as to the original question, I have a proposal. Legislators who miss more than a certain small number of successive votes should be removed from the legislature and the person with the second largest number of votes in their election put in their seat. As that is usually a member of the opposite party, it would deter legislators from running off.

They haven’t missed votes and secondly your proposal would be unconstitutional and illegal as the seat would change hands without an election. That’s completely undemocratic and unfair.

The reason they left is too prevent quorum so the legislature cannot function.

If you refuse to do your job, you shouldn't keep it. And seats change hands without an election all the time. Are switching parties and governors filling vacancies undemocratic?

[Necroghastia]

Oh? I didn't know you were a doctor! Let alone that you were the prescribing doctor in that story!

Yeah, the only person laying on their butt wailing about how hard life is is you.

1. No, I'm a medical student.

But you still weren't the one treating the patient. In other words, your opinion matters little.

2. Wrong again, I actually did something to improve my life. There's millions of worthless losers in this country who've never worked a day and still think everyone owes them a handout.

So yeah, whining about how hard life is. Just because you're whining that people don't enjoy suffering and that life should be hard doesn't make what you're doing any less whining about life being hard.

[Necroghastia]

They haven’t missed votes and secondly your proposal would be unconstitutional and illegal as the seat would change hands without an election. That’s completely undemocratic and unfair.

The reason they left is too prevent quorum so the legislature cannot function.

If you refuse to do your job, you shouldn't keep it. And seats change hands without an election all the time. Are switching parties and governors filling vacancies undemocratic?

The people in question are doing their job though. Elected representatives are supposed to look out for their constituents' interests and take action in support of such, yes?

[Forsher]

i mean voter-roll maintenance is good policy in a vacuum

Is it, though?

Like, what exactly are we excluding from the vacuum?

[The Republic of Fore]

1. No, I'm a medical student.

But you still weren't the one treating the patient. In other words, your opinion matters little.

2. Wrong again, I actually did something to improve my life. There's millions of worthless losers in this country who've never worked a day and still think everyone owes them a handout.

So yeah, whining about how hard life is. Just because you're whining that people don't enjoy suffering and that life should be hard doesn't make what you're doing any less whining about life being hard.

1. It matters quite a bit more than random aunt jane with her prescription. The US government is also cracking down on prescribing narcotics. But I'm sure their opinion doesn't matter either, they only have the power to throw you in prison and get your license revoked.
2. Not wanting to support parasites isn't whining. Never said anybody has to enjoy anything.

[Necroghastia]

But you still weren't the one treating the patient. In other words, your opinion matters little.

So yeah, whining about how hard life is. Just because you're whining that people don't enjoy suffering and that life should be hard doesn't make what you're doing any less whining about life being hard.

1. It matters quite a bit more than random aunt jane with her prescription. The US government is also cracking down on prescribing narcotics. But I'm sure their opinion doesn't matter either, they only have the power to throw you in prison and get your license revoked.

prescription

not much of a med student if you don't understand what that is lol

2. Not wanting to support parasites isn't whining. Never said anybody has to enjoy anything.

You're the one advocating for measures to make people "parasites" since you don't believe in people being able to make up for crimes, even victimless ones that arguably shouldn't be crimes anyway.

[Kowani]

i mean voter-roll maintenance is good policy in a vacuum

Is it, though?

Like, what exactly are we excluding from the vacuum?

well, a vacuum would assume good-faith efforts on the part of representatives to keep the rolls up-to-date for addresses and having living voters instead of dead ones
but we don't have that (and we won't as long as one party is incentivized to gain by artificially shrinking the electorate) so it's kind of pointless to talk as if it were the case

[The Republic of Fore]

If you refuse to do your job, you shouldn't keep it. And seats change hands without an election all the time. Are switching parties and governors filling vacancies undemocratic?

The people in question are doing their job though. Elected representatives are supposed to look out for their constituents' interests and take action in support of such, yes?

They're supposed to vote when bills are being considered. Not run away and hide because they're mad that blue Texas hasn't happened yet.

[Necroghastia]

The people in question are doing their job though. Elected representatives are supposed to look out for their constituents' interests and take action in support of such, yes?

They're supposed to vote when bills are being considered. Not run away and hide because they're mad that blue Texas hasn't happened yet.

That's not the motivation for what is being done and you damn well know that. Again, are representatives not meant to advance their constituents' interests?

[Forsher]

Is it, though?

Like, what exactly are we excluding from the vacuum?

well, a vacuum would assume good-faith efforts on the part of representatives to keep the rolls up-to-date for addresses and having living voters instead of dead ones
but we don't have that (and we won't as long as one party is incentivized to gain by artificially shrinking the electorate) so it's kind of pointless to talk as if it were the case

Of course, it's just... I'm not sure how idealised the world would have to be before such policies make sense. I mean, what's the actual consequence of having a dead voter on a roll?

I guess, maybe, and even in the real world hellscape of the USA, you could just purge everyone after 47 years. If people know it's coming and it's functionally automatic and it's tied to some other meaningful age (in theory, 65), then you can do communications strategies to make sure people re-enrol. That solves dead people (or, rather, leaves only a maximum of 47 years of carrying a dead person on an electoral roll).

They're supposed to vote when bills are being considered. Not run away and hide because they're mad that blue Texas hasn't happened yet.

That's not the motivation for what is being done and you damn well know that. Again, are representatives not meant to advance their constituents' interests?

At this point, democracy is a Democratic position, not a democratic position.

[The Republic of Fore]

1. It matters quite a bit more than random aunt jane with her prescription. The US government is also cracking down on prescribing narcotics. But I'm sure their opinion doesn't matter either, they only have the power to throw you in prison and get your license revoked.

prescription

not much of a med student if you don't understand what that is lol

2. Not wanting to support parasites isn't whining. Never said anybody has to enjoy anything.

You're the one advocating for measures to make people "parasites" since you don't believe in people being able to make up for crimes, even victimless ones that arguably shouldn't be crimes anyway.

1. Sharing pills is a terrible idea and illegal. Everyone with a brain knows that. And just because someone has a script doesn't mean they need it. But you're right, who cares about those 90,000 deaths? You gotta have empathy man! People need their drugs that don't really work much better than tylenol!
2.Nothing stops them from doing that amazing thing called "not committing a felony." Instead of selling drugs to feed their starving grandma, they should go work at walmart. More money and you won't go to prison. And even for those that already did, there's some jobs that do still hire felons.

[The Republic of Fore]

They're supposed to vote when bills are being considered. Not run away and hide because they're mad that blue Texas hasn't happened yet.

That's not the motivation for what is being done and you damn well know that. Again, are representatives not meant to advance their constituents' interests?

No, they're meant to vote when bills are on the table. Running away and hiding isn't advancing anything, the vote will still happen.

[Necroghastia]

not much of a med student if you don't understand what that is lol

You're the one advocating for measures to make people "parasites" since you don't believe in people being able to make up for crimes, even victimless ones that arguably shouldn't be crimes anyway.

1. Sharing pills is a terrible idea and illegal. Everyone with a brain knows that. And just because someone has a script doesn't mean they need it. But you're right, who cares about those 90,000 deaths? You gotta have empathy man! People need their drugs that don't really work much better than tylenol!
2.Nothing stops them from doing that amazing thing called "not committing a felony." Instead of selling drugs to feed their starving grandma, they should go work at walmart. More money and you won't go to prison. And even for those that already did, there's some jobs that do still hire felons.

Congratulations, you have once again failed to actually engage with any arguments in favor of whining about people you think are beneath you wanting to fix a broken system.

[Washington Resistance Army]

2.Nothing stops them from doing that amazing thing called "not committing a felony." Instead of selling drugs to feed their starving grandma, they should go work at walmart. More money and you won't go to prison. And even for those that already did, there's some jobs that do still hire felons.

I don't think you know much about Walmart or drug dealing if you think working for the former makes more money lol

[Necroghastia]

That's not the motivation for what is being done and you damn well know that. Again, are representatives not meant to advance their constituents' interests?

No, they're meant to vote when bills are on the table. Running away and hiding isn't advancing anything, the vote will still happen.

...No it won't, lol. That's the point of breaking quorum.

[Kowani]

well, a vacuum would assume good-faith efforts on the part of representatives to keep the rolls up-to-date for addresses and having living voters instead of dead ones
but we don't have that (and we won't as long as one party is incentivized to gain by artificially shrinking the electorate) so it's kind of pointless to talk as if it were the case

Of course, it's just... I'm not sure how idealised the world would have to be before such policies make sense. I mean, what's the actual consequence of having a dead voter on a roll?

in terms of actual election performance, not much, really
there are safeguards to prevent people from using a dead person's identity to vote
in terms of democratic confidence, unfortunately, a lot (though i'm leaning towards the belief that outdated voter rolls are just post-hoc rationalizations for anti-democracy positions anyway)

I guess, maybe, and even in the real world hellscape of the USA, you could just purge everyone after 47 years. If people know it's coming and it's functionally automatic and it's tied to some other meaningful age (in theory, 65), then you can do communications strategies to make sure people re-enrol. That solves dead people (or, rather, leaves only a maximum of 47 years of carrying a dead person on an electoral roll).

while i'm not certain about the constitutionality (states are routinely given the opportunity to be stricter than the federal government on most things but election administration is slightly more complicated), this would actually fix the problem

[The Republic of Fore]

1. Sharing pills is a terrible idea and illegal. Everyone with a brain knows that. And just because someone has a script doesn't mean they need it. But you're right, who cares about those 90,000 deaths? You gotta have empathy man! People need their drugs that don't really work much better than tylenol!
2.Nothing stops them from doing that amazing thing called "not committing a felony." Instead of selling drugs to feed their starving grandma, they should go work at walmart. More money and you won't go to prison. And even for those that already did, there's some jobs that do still hire felons.

Congratulations, you have once again failed to actually engage with any arguments in favor of whining about people you think are beneath you wanting to fix a broken system.

I'm not whining about anything. If someone wants to fix the system that's on them, I just don't believe I should support people who do nothing.

[The Republic of Fore]

No, they're meant to vote when bills are on the table. Running away and hiding isn't advancing anything, the vote will still happen.

...No it won't, lol. That's the point of breaking quorum.

It will when they're arrested, dragged into the chamber and forced to do their job.