Republicans Rounding Up Democrats in Texas

[San Lumen]

it would never happen as its one hundred percent illegal and unconstitutional.

History is full of leaders doing illegal and unconstitutional things and getting away with it.

Such a move would never hold up in court as it would be a complete and utter violation of the constitution, If seat is declared vacant a special election must be held, A replacement cannot be appointed.

A seat can only be declared vacant if the representative dies or resigns.

[The Two Jerseys]

Which has nothing to do with its chad-ness.

Proposing things are illegal and unconstitutional doesn't make it chad.

Tell that to the Chad Marvin Heemeyer and his Killdozer.

[Immortan Khan]

History is full of leaders doing illegal and unconstitutional things and getting away with it.

Such a move would never hold up in court as it would be a complete and utter violation of the constitution, If seat is declared vacant a special election must be held, A replacement cannot be appointed.

A seat can only be declared vacant if the representative dies or resigns.

Apparently you missed the part where I mentioned how throughout history leaders have done blatantly illegal and unconstitutional things and gotten away with it. "NOOOOO Sulla! You can't march on Rome with your legions, that's unconstitutional and wont hold up in court!"

[San Lumen]

Such a move would never hold up in court as it would be a complete and utter violation of the constitution, If seat is declared vacant a special election must be held, A replacement cannot be appointed.

A seat can only be declared vacant if the representative dies or resigns.

Apparently you missed the part where I mentioned how throughout history leaders have done blatantly illegal and unconstitutional things and gotten away with it. "NOOOOO Sulla! You can't march on Rome with your legions, that's unconstitutional and wont hold up in court!"

This is not something the governor would get away with. It would be struck down in court. There is no provision whatsoever for people to be appointed to vacant seats nor declare a seat vacant if they do not show up.

[Immortan Khan]

American politics allowed a huge swath of its own country to blatantly infringe on various groups rights, straight up stole land from peoples it had treaties with on the threat of genocide and still doesn't give it back, has flat out allowed the FBI and CIA to murder people including American citizens, wage wars without congressional approval, blatant corruption and vote rigging (I'm talking about old machine politics here) and people still think just saying "It's illegal!" over and over again is some magic word that will prevent things from happening.

[Immortan Khan]

Apparently you missed the part where I mentioned how throughout history leaders have done blatantly illegal and unconstitutional things and gotten away with it. "NOOOOO Sulla! You can't march on Rome with your legions, that's unconstitutional and wont hold up in court!"

This is not something the governor would get away with. It would be struck down in court. There is no provision whatsoever for people to be appointed to vacant seats nor declare a seat vacant if they do not show up.

Yeah and what would you do if Texan LE just didn't bother enforcing the court and sided with Abbot? What then?

[San Lumen]

This is not something the governor would get away with. It would be struck down in court. There is no provision whatsoever for people to be appointed to vacant seats nor declare a seat vacant if they do not show up.

Yeah and what would you do if Texan LE just didn't bother enforcing the court and sided with Abbot? What then?

There would be massive outrage and protests and they would also be held in contempt of court. The court would then rule the law was unconstitutional due to the manner in which it was passed.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Yeah and what would you do if Texan LE just didn't bother enforcing the court and sided with Abbot? What then?

There would be massive outrage and protests and they would also be held in contempt of court. The court would then rule the law was unconstitutional due to the manner in which it was passed.

No there wouldn't lol. LE refuses to enforce laws they disagree with politically all the time.

[The Two Jerseys]

Yeah and what would you do if Texan LE just didn't bother enforcing the court and sided with Abbot? What then?

There would be massive outrage and protests and they would also be held in contempt of court. The court would then rule the law was unconstitutional due to the manner in which it was passed.

Why would a court that sides with Abbot hold them in contempt and declare it unconstitutional?

[San Lumen]

There would be massive outrage and protests and they would also be held in contempt of court. The court would then rule the law was unconstitutional due to the manner in which it was passed.

Why would a court that sides with Abbot hold them in contempt and declare it unconstitutional?

That isn’t what they said.

[The Two Jerseys]

Why would a court that sides with Abbot hold them in contempt and declare it unconstitutional?

That isn’t what they said.

Sorry, my bad.

Still, what's the court going to do about it?

[San Lumen]

There would be massive outrage and protests and they would also be held in contempt of court. The court would then rule the law was unconstitutional due to the manner in which it was passed.

No there wouldn't lol. LE refuses to enforce laws they disagree with politically all the time.

Yea they would. The law would have been illegally passed and unenforceable. No court would uphold that.

[San Lumen]

That isn’t what they said.

Sorry, my bad.

Still, what's the court going to do about it?

Hold them in contempt and rule any law passed during that special session as unconstitutional.

[Immortan Khan]

Yeah and what would you do if Texan LE just didn't bother enforcing the court and sided with Abbot? What then?

There would be massive outrage and protests and they would also be held in contempt of court. The court would then rule the law was unconstitutional due to the manner in which it was passed.

Yeah and how are they going to enforce that if LE ignores them and sides with Abbot? The judicial system's legitimacy is derived from the willingness of those who wield force to willingly hold themselves subservient to it. If they are no longer doing that, something in which LE routinely has done, there's really not much that can be done about it. The ability to wield force and hold it subservient to ones interests and system is the bedrock of all political authority and legitimacy.

[The Two Jerseys]

Sorry, my bad.

Still, what's the court going to do about it?

Hold them in contempt and rule any law passed during that special session as unconstitutional.

And who exactly is going to enforce the court's contempt ruling?

[San Lumen]

There would be massive outrage and protests and they would also be held in contempt of court. The court would then rule the law was unconstitutional due to the manner in which it was passed.

Yeah and how are they going to enforce that if LE ignores them and sides with Abbot? The judicial system's legitimacy is derived from the willingness of those who wield force to willingly hold themselves subservient to it. If they are no longer doing that, something in which LE routinely has done, there's really not much that can be done about it. The ability to wield force and hold it subservient to ones interests and system is the bedrock of all political authority and legitimacy.

No law passed during the special session would be constitutional as it would be in complete violation of the state constitution.

Their credibility and reputation would be utterly destroyed and they’d be decimated at the polls in 2022.

[San Lumen]

Hold them in contempt and rule any law passed during that special session as unconstitutional.

And who exactly is going to enforce the court's contempt ruling?

Yonkers was nearly bankrupted in the late 80s over refusal to implement a court decision on affordable housing. The same thing could happen here.

[The Two Jerseys]

And who exactly is going to enforce the court's contempt ruling?

Yonkers was nearly bankrupted in the late 80s over refusal to implement a court decision on affordable housing. The same thing could happen here.

That's not an answer.

[San Lumen]

Yonkers was nearly bankrupted in the late 80s over refusal to implement a court decision on affordable housing. The same thing could happen here.

That's not an answer.

How? I gave you a historical example.

[Washington Resistance Army]

That's not an answer.

How? I gave you a historical example.

So, who is going to bankrupt the state of Texas?

[San Lumen]

How? I gave you a historical example.

So, who is going to bankrupt the state of Texas?

The state Supreme Court.

[Washington Resistance Army]

So, who is going to bankrupt the state of Texas?

The state Supreme Court.

And how are they going to do that?

[The Two Jerseys]

The state Supreme Court.

And how are they going to do that?

They're going to order the Rangers and Highway Patrol to do it, right after ordering them to arrest themselves for contempt of court.

[San Lumen]

And how are they going to do that?

Move the court to Mars.

Texas House can change its own rules, by majority. Texas Senate needs two thirds. Tex. S. Rule 61 (1973)
Expulsion needs two thirds. Not sure about special election, but it's irrelevant. They could legislate with vacant seats.

They can’t legislate with vacant seats as there would be no quorum. A seat can only be declared vacant if the incumbent dies or resigns.

[American Pere Housh]

^This. I mean I even think the law is dumb as shit, but I can't deny that doing a move like that would be chad and based.

it would never happen as its one hundred percent illegal and unconstitutional.

Now what is unconstitutional is HR 1.