Breaking News Protests across Cuba against the Cuban Regime

[Ethel mermania]

In America There are 10's if not 100's of thousands of Cubans who are descendants of those who fled Castro who are praying for US intervention in Cuba.

Tbf to us, we only tried it once

That might depend on how you define 'intervention'.

If you define intervention as 'directly supporting some form of armed invasion/uprising', then yes, the Bay of Pigs fiasco was the only direct intervention (edit: for total clarity, after Castro came to power).

If you define intervention as 'any attempt to overthrow Fidel Castro', then the decades-long blockade and series of increasingly baroque US government attempts to assassinate and/or humiliate Fidel (which the Cubans claim were continuing as late as the Clinton administration) might also count.

I imagine many Latin Americans might be more inclined to use the second metric; from this side of the Atlantic, I can see it being largely a matter of perspective.

How do you like your cigars? Mr. Giancana would like to send you a box.

[Ethel mermania]

1. The post was inresponse to iffy taking about one person supporting the view. Iffy is not American and really can't be expected to know that the view expressed is for better or worse a fairly popular in South Florida.

2. I am not supporting an American invasion of Cuba.

Florida’s opinions on most matters should be disregarded with extreme prejudice. South Florida’s opinions even more so.

Tbf, their food is a hell of a lot better than where you are

[Pasong Tirad]

The USA intervened and supported anti-Soviet, anti-communist indigenous forces around the globe to protect US national interests from a brutal, murderous communist dictatorship that was intent on global conquest and subjugation of all peoples of the planet.

What is the USA supposed to do? Sit back and watch Nazis and Marxists enslave the planet by attacking and subverting nations in the Western Hemisphere, Europe, Asian Pacific Rim, etc?

Marxist sociopaths would love a USA that stood down while they carved up the geopolitic (the Obama and Biden Doctrine).

Most importantly, once the brutal communist regime in Moscow was crushed by free market competitors in Europe, America and the Vatican, the USA immediately changed course and worked to democratize formerly authoritarian regimes they supported.

So what do we have today?

You mentioned Chile? Today it is more prosperous, peaceful and free than at anytime in its history. So is the rest of Europe, South America and the Asian Pacific Rim. Where the USA engaged Soviet forces by supporting anti-communist authoritarian regimes, virtually all of those nation-states are now far more free than they have ever been.

Your fallacious narrative has been duly debunked.

Dude just stop... Your just making the Cuban protesters look bad with your rants.

We shouldn't invade Cuba and we should definitely lift the embargo on Cuba.

I can't believe you would ignore the feelings of Cuban Americans who want Cubans to not have access to life-saving medical supplies and equipment like this smh my head my head

[Ethel mermania]

That might depend on how you define 'intervention'.

If you define intervention as 'directly supporting some form of armed invasion/uprising', then yes, the Bay of Pigs fiasco was the only direct intervention (edit: for total clarity, after Castro came to power).

If you define intervention as 'any attempt to overthrow Fidel Castro', then the decades-long blockade and series of increasingly baroque US government attempts to assassinate and/or humiliate Fidel (which the Cubans claim were continuing as late as the Clinton administration) might also count.

I imagine many Latin Americans might be more inclined to use the second metric; from this side of the Atlantic, I can see it being largely a matter of perspective.

I wonder how much public money was wasted on failing to assassinate Fidel Castro?

Not a lot, compared to what needed to be spent to succeed. Obama may have mistakenly called ISIS the junior varsity. What the CIA hired to overthrow Castro would have been cut from the JV.

[Pasong Tirad]

Probs enough tax payer dollars to go to the Moon an additional 12 times using the Apollo system.

We could go to the moon again, or we could give that money to Jimmy the snitch who says he has a really good plan to get Castro this time!

I can respect Jimmy's hustle. Those poisoned cigars will definitely work this time.

[Heloin]

Florida’s opinions on most matters should be disregarded with extreme prejudice. South Florida’s opinions even more so.

Tbf, their food is a hell of a lot better than where you are

Id say there’s better seafood over in Mayport and Fernandina.

[Ethel mermania]

Tbf, their food is a hell of a lot better than where you are

Id say there’s better seafood over in Mayport and Fernandina.

While I like the atmosphere of Fernandina better. I very much disagree about the food.

[Heloin]

Id say there’s better seafood over in Mayport and Fernandina.

While I like the atmosphere of Fernandina better. I very much disagree about the food.

Meant to write St. Mary’s. But I remembered that’s in Georgia. In conclusion, Florida is a land of contrasts.

[Ethel mermania]

While I like the atmosphere of Fernandina better. I very much disagree about the food.

Meant to write St. Mary’s. But I remembered that’s in Georgia. In conclusion, Florida is a land of contrasts.

I was thinking the only thing in Mayport was strip bars and sailors. Though its been a while since I have been down there.

[Ifreann]

While I like the atmosphere of Fernandina better. I very much disagree about the food.

Meant to write St. Mary’s. But I remembered that’s in Georgia. In conclusion, Florida is a land of contrasts.

Or as the natives call it, maize.

[Heloin]

Meant to write St. Mary’s. But I remembered that’s in Georgia. In conclusion, Florida is a land of contrasts.

I was thinking the only thing in Mayport was strip bars and sailors. Though its been a while since I have been down there.

They’re still there (well not the strip bars really) but also some really good seafood places there these days.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

Dude just stop... Your just making the Cuban protesters look bad with your rants.

We shouldn't invade Cuba and we should definitely lift the embargo on Cuba.

I can't believe you would ignore the feelings of Cuban Americans who want Cubans to not have access to life-saving medical supplies and equipment like this smh my head my head

Why are you equating Cuba becoming democratic to them loosing healthcare? I don't want America to assist the protesters, but I also doubt they're Batista types.

[Postauthoritarian America]

Riddle me this, if the rule of law is so important to Republicans why were none of the Cuban migrant protesters who blocked roads in Florida cited under the new state law saying protesters who block roads will be cited?

[Vassenor]

Riddle me this, if the rule of law is so important to Republicans why were none of the Cuban migrant protesters who blocked roads in Florida cited under the new state law saying protesters who block roads will be cited?

Because the GOP agrees with them. Anti-protest laws are only for movements like BLM and XR that the GOP doesn't like.

[Proctopeo]

I can't believe you would ignore the feelings of Cuban Americans who want Cubans to not have access to life-saving medical supplies and equipment like this smh my head my head

Why are you equating Cuba becoming democratic to them loosing healthcare? I don't want America to assist the protesters, but I also doubt they're Batista types.

Hey, they may lack a variety of basic civil rights and may suffer under an oppressive dictatorship, but they have a competent healthcare system! Probably. Saying that their healthcare system has issues would violate the law of Cuba, you know.

I'm not sure if we should intervene, since that often works out poorly, but the protesters are completely in the right. While unlikely, I hope we'll see a peaceful transition of power to a more democratic form of government. A coup or a revolution sounds like something that would lead to a new tinpot with different branding. Again. Still, I'm fully behind the protesters - they deserve a government that actually serves them.

[Greater Miami Shores]

The OP: GMS Crazy Cuban Alberto:
A 2 minutes Video Link by the Populist Political Party of Spain - By Santiago Abascal of The Populist Political Party of Spain.
Either You are with The Cuban People or you are with the Cuban dictatorship of Cuba - For over 60 Years and Counting.

We condemn the Crimes of the Cuban regime.
https://twitter.com/Santi_ABASCAL/statu ... 30723?s=20
They will not give up power peacefully?

The Cuban government dictatorship of over 60 years and counting has cut off phone service to Cuba. Has cut off internet service to Cuba. This means the Cuban People are still protesting in the streets against the Cuban regime. My family and I in Miami and Cuban Americans in the USA and all over the world cant communicate with our families and friends in Cuba. This is what the Cuban regime wants, no information to the world of how they are putting down the protestors? But we know they are using the Black Berets special military forces against the Cuban people and my family still in Cuba?

The evidence is very clear the Cuban dictatorship is using military and police forces against the Cuban people and my family still in Cuba? No more excuses, denials and support for the eternal Cuban dictatorship by any persons in the world?

The Cuban government is in charge of all the exports and imports of Cuba. This is another way to control the Cuban People.

Please keep in Mind The Cuban government Trades with all nations of the world, despite the so called evil US Economic Embargo Blockade Receives Tourists with hard Currency Money $ from Germany, Great Britain , France, Italy, Spain, EU Nations, Canada, Australia. New Zealand, Japan, Brazil - And Many Nations of the World.

Receives Family Remittances $ From Cuban Americans and Cubans all over the world. Care Packages of Goods, Food, Medicines and Toilet Paper - Toilet Paper. When They Send Family Remittances $ They have to Deposit it in a Cuban Government Bank - Then The Cuban Government Gives Cuban Citizens A Credit Card in the Value of worthless Cuban Pesos $ So they can Purchase Goods from all over the World at High Prices $ Including American Brand Products.

My Family still in Cuba lives like Poor $ Average Cuban Citizens - While the Communists Socialists Governing Elite Live Like Rich $ Capitalists As This Link Provided Proves :
dictatorshiphttps://www.nationstates.ne ... =1235120xx

Most Cubans in Cuba work for the Cuban Government in Pesos $ and have to exchange it for the convertible Pesos $ and other Hard Curries like the Euro at a lower exchange rate so they can buy goods at Cuban government stores at high Prices in a currency they do not earn $.

Even if my Family and I send them money $ they are not allowed to invest $ in Cuba. Even if Cuban Americans and Cubans from all over the world send them Money $ they are not allowed to invest $ in Cuba.

A Cuban government employment agency hires the Cuban government workers and the Foreign Hotels and Resorts Workers at Cuban Pesos $ then they have to exchange it for a the convertible Pesos $ and Hard Currencies so they can Purchase goods at Cuban government stores at High Prices in a currency they don't earn $ - This how much the Cuban government governing socialist elite really cares about the Cuban People and my family still in Cuba.

While the Communists Socialists Governing Elite Live Like Rich $ Capitalists As This Link Provided Proves :
dictatorshiphttps://www.nationstates.ne ... =1235120xx

Right now as anti Cuban government Protestors are being put down by the Black Barets Special Military Forces They have cut off phone service to Cuba. Has cut off internet service to Cuba. My Family and I cant communicate with them.

This is the Real Cuba.

I ask all my fellow NSers to condemn the Cuban regime with their posts? Most have probably voted by now. If you have not voted please vote for poll options 1 2 3 4 7 8 and 9. IF you have voted support poll options 1 2 3 4 7 8 and 9 on your Posts?

The evidence is very clear they will not give up power peacefully? We need an international embargo blockade similar to south Africa option 7 agreed by 17 of us so far. We need a US Naval Blockade of Cuba, nothing goes in, nothing goes out, until Cuban regime falls from within and without? option 2 agreed by 18 of us so far. We need option 03 agreed by 24 of us so far.

03 - The Cuban government Leaders Need to Resign Power and Leave Cuba for España La Madre Patria, or any Nations, this is the only Peaceful Solution for the Cuban People Possible in Cuba. Agreed by 24 of us so far.

Option 01 states - As long as the Committees for the Defense of the Revolution of Cuba, The CDRs exist in Cuba, there will not be any western style democratic change, with all its faults and merits. Agreed by 25 of us so far. The Cuban government calls its itself the continuity of the eternal revolution. This statement says it all and proves it all. They will not change. the only solution possible for the Cuban people possible are options 1 2 3 4 7 8 and 9. No more excuses, denials and support for the eternal Cuban dictatorship by any persons in the world. The other option should be any military options by the government of the USA.

The evidence is very clear these People do not negotiate with the Cuban People? These people will not make any economic and political changes in Cuba, to help the Cuban people? They are not stupid, they know economic and political reforms will weaken their Power over the Cuban people? They know it could lead to them loosing power one way or the other?

Right now Cuban American Senator of Florida, Marco Rubio is trying to set up some kind of internet communication for the Cuban people.

He also calls for this Policy I strongly support in a letter to Biden: Lastly, I urge you to clearly and publicly communicate that it will be the policy of the United States to regard the weaponization of mass migration by the Cuban regime as a hostile act against our national security which would be met with a swift and appropriate response.
Link Provided Please discuss?
https://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/ind ... mmediately

From my Perspective this means poll option 02 - The USA should create a Naval Blockade of Cuba, nothing goes in, nothing goes out, until Cuban regime falls from within and without? The US can order military air strikes against military targets so civilians are not hurt.

No more excuses, denials and support for the eternal Cuban dictatorship by any persons in the world?

If you have voted, I ask you Please support poll options 1 2 3 4 7 8 and 9 on your Posts? If you have not voted jet, I ask you Please support Poll options 1 2 3 4 7 8 and 9. on your posts?

I still have new material to post for discussion at the right time. Please keep posting and vote if you have not voted it yet. Please support the Poll options above on your posts. Thank You - The OP.

I am the only Person on NS who numbers the Poll options like I do. I think it is a good idea for all OPs to do. I follow the results of the Poll easier. In my case I have very bad eyesight the doctors call high bad.

[Proctopeo]

Oh yeah, it is probably important to note. A government having the power to shut down their country's connection to the Internet is never a good thing, and them using that power is always a bad sign. The same applies for other forms of quick, long-distance communication. I'd go so far as to say it's indefensible.

[Postauthoritarian America]

Riddle me another one: if the protesters in Cuba burned down a police station would the regime be justified in shooting them down? Asking for a friend.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I cant believe the US government who has satellites and other advanced technology doesn't know anything of what is happening in Cuba right now? to take the necessary actions needed? They can order military air strikes at Cuban government military targets? So civilians are not hurt.

[Uiiop]

Riddle me another one: if the protesters in Cuba burned down a police station would the regime be justified in shooting them down? Asking for a friend.

Unless their plan is to bring in American cops I'd say about the same answer as the American one.

[Tsaivao]

I cant believe the US government who has satellites and other advanced technology doesn't know anything of what is happening in Cuba right now? to take the necessary actions needed? They can order military air strikes at Cuban government military targets? So civilians are not hurt.

Yes, that would be an excellent geopolitical decision that definitely wouldn't cause extreme tension and condemnation from our allies, /s

You don't get to just bomb random countries with no warning, no matter what their civilians are doing.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I cant believe the US government who has satellites and other advanced technology doesn't know anything of what is happening in Cuba right now? to take the necessary actions needed? They can order military air strikes at Cuban government military targets? So civilians are not hurt.

The bomb & dash campaign and the following unchecked civil war reduced Libya to a state where chattel slavery is now being conducted in the open. Do you want this for your homeland?

[Exalted Inquellian State]

I cant believe the US government who has satellites and other advanced technology doesn't know anything of what is happening in Cuba right now? to take the necessary actions needed? They can order military air strikes at Cuban government military targets? So civilians are not hurt.

Five reasons not too.

1. It will make the Cuban protestors be seen as terrorists.

2. It will make them be seen as foreign puppets.

3. It will make the Cubans think that the protestors are unable to govern on their own.

4. Cuba might send a response in the form of bombings, and given they're a dictatorship i doubt they'll be kind. If they send every plane in cuba, I'm sure at least one will deliver a bomb to Miami.

5. If it hurts civilians somehow, it will put the other nations on alert. They will watch America's every move afterwards.

And in combination, if it happens, the cause will be lost. Now is that what you want?

[Postauthoritarian America]

Would it really be the best idea for the US to openly support demonstrations in other countries aimed at bringing down those countries' governments? What if Russia had supported the January 6 insurrectionists? Oh? They did?

[Orostan]

Oh yeah, it is probably important to note. A government having the power to shut down their country's connection to the Internet is never a good thing, and them using that power is always a bad sign. The same applies for other forms of quick, long-distance communication. I'd go so far as to say it's indefensible.

I support Cuba’s right to stop the CIA from spreading propaganda and misinformation in their country.

I cant believe the US government who has satellites and other advanced technology doesn't know anything of what is happening in Cuba right now? to take the necessary actions needed? They can order military air strikes at Cuban government military targets? So civilians are not hurt.

bruh

The USA bombs countries to destroy them not to help them.