Breaking News Protests across Cuba against the Cuban Regime

[Shrillland]

Diaz-Canal addressed the nation last night, asks Cubans not to react with hate and openly admits to failings on the part of the State

[Blargoblarg]

I find it interesting that a bunch of media outlets are literally using pictures of a pro-government rally in Cuba and claiming that they're protesters against the Cuban government.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I find it interesting that a bunch of media outlets are literally using pictures of a pro-government rally in Cuba and claiming that they're protesters against the Cuban government.

I sadly didn't save the link but I saw something similar to this the other day. A bunch of American media outlets were running pictures of "anti-government" protests from Cuba, except when you looked closer a lot of the people were wearing Che and Castro shirts and carrying signs defending socialism and the Party.

[Pasong Tirad]

I find it interesting that a bunch of media outlets are literally using pictures of a pro-government rally in Cuba and claiming that they're protesters against the Cuban government.

I sadly didn't save the link but I saw something similar to this the other day. A bunch of American media outlets were running pictures of "anti-government" protests from Cuba, except when you looked closer a lot of the people were wearing Che and Castro shirts and carrying signs defending socialism and the Party.

Saw something similar being shared on Twitter, supposedly of anti-government protesters. But all of the flags are Egyptian.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I sadly didn't save the link but I saw something similar to this the other day. A bunch of American media outlets were running pictures of "anti-government" protests from Cuba, except when you looked closer a lot of the people were wearing Che and Castro shirts and carrying signs defending socialism and the Party.

Saw something similar being shared on Twitter, supposedly of anti-government protesters. But all of the flags are Egyptian.

Damn bro Cuba is in North Africa now? Maybe the CIA was right in trying to kill Castro, that island is too powerful!

[Saiwania]

I've done plenty already to keep this on topic. It is only that I aggressively respond to any and all criticism or opposition. If I don't, it is automatically losing in my view. I post to win within my abilities.

I'm on board with the Miami mayor on the need for a military intervention to try to force a regime change in Cuba, but only if it can be determined that the anti-government forces there are powerful enough to bring it about. If the faction that is in favor of Cuba's existing government still has too solid of a hold over that country, it is the wiser move to sit this one out, but to maintain the embargo.

There is no sufficient reason to lift the embargo if Cuba's government is in the same category as Iran's in terms of US foreign policy. Those are adversarial regimes that must be contained at best and deposed at worst, if such an opportunity arises.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Jesus H. Christ on a Salyut 5 if I see anymore agitprop I will legit no longer be in possession of my faculties.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Moreover, EVERYONE who has EVER worked for Walmart did so voluntarily and peacefully because they believed it was the most efficient use of their time.

Actually the greatest fantasy in the world. People work because we as a society will leave them to die if they don't. That's not voluntary, that's simply a mass scale version of me telling you to do something and shooting you if you don't.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Moreover, EVERYONE who has EVER worked for Walmart did so voluntarily and peacefully because they believed it was the most efficient use of their time.

Actually the greatest fantasy in the world. People work because we as a society will leave them to die if they don't. That's not voluntary, that's simply a mass scale version of me telling you to do something and shooting you if you don't.

Slave or Starve but we pretend this is a morally acceptable system.
Edit: Isn't it curious that women labourers in the 19th century, women who never even read Marx or Engels independently concluded that wage slavery was real?

[Ifreann]

I see the unironic Hoxhaist has entered the group chat.

Posting from inside seven bunkers.

[Picairn]

The USA intervened and supported anti-Soviet, anti-communist indigenous forces around the globe to protect US national interests from a brutal, murderous communist dictatorship that was intent on global conquest and subjugation of all peoples of the planet.

"Protect US national interests" sounds very much like neocolonialism. True, the US protected its national interests by installing and supporting brutal dictators. Batista, Pinochet, Syngman Rhee, Suharto, Noriega, Ngo Dinh Diem, etc. All of them had blood of the innocents on their hands, and were puppets to US interests.

What is the USA supposed to do? Sit back and watch Nazis and Marxists enslave the planet by attacking and subverting nations in the Western Hemisphere, Europe, Asian Pacific Rim, etc?

Some of the countries the US overthrown democratically elected their own leaders, like Mossadegh and Allende.

Marxist sociopaths would love a USA that stood down while they carved up the geopolitic (the Obama and Biden Doctrine).

Ironically, Biden is restoring many of the alliances Trump abandoned, and Obama literally started a lot of wars.

Most importantly, once the brutal communist regime in Moscow was crushed by free market competitors in Europe, America and the Vatican, the USA immediately changed course and worked to democratize formerly authoritarian regimes they supported.

This is nonsense. The democracies that arose out of authoritarian regimes today happened without US support, it was the work of the people. South Koreans protested for decades to force the Korean government to democratize, especially after the June Democracy Movement. Suharto resigned after massive public demonstration and parliamentary opposition from his 30-year mismanagement of the economy. Pinochet stepped down from power after the 1988 and 1989 referendums.

So what do we have today?

You mentioned Chile? Today it is more prosperous, peaceful and free than at anytime in its history.

At the cost of massive inequality and poverty. 26% of Chileans in 2017 are poor, and the richest 20%'s income equal 61% of GDP while the poorest 20%'s is only 3.3%.

So is the rest of Europe, South America and the Asian Pacific Rim.

South America is still plagued with inequality and corruption thanks to decades of American intervention. Many former Soviet countries remain poor, with Russia suffering the most from the 90s' shock therapy. Philippines and Indonesia also have structural inequality, economic problems and corruption. South Korea just barely got out of a massive corruption scandal a few years ago.

Where the USA engaged Soviet forces by supporting anti-communist authoritarian regimes, virtually all of those nation-states are now far more free than they have ever been.

Depending on the metrics, this claim is questionable.

Your fallacious narrative has been duly debunked.

Right back at'cha.

[Cultural Posadism]

Love the keyboard colonizers and imperialists here trying to gaslight Latin Americans into accepting US support for right-wing coups and dictatorships in our countries.

Anyway, democratic centralism is kinda bullshit, as is authoritarian leftism in general. The good deeds of the Castro regime don't wash away whatever unjustifiable repression and corruption might have happened under them. It'd be nice to see Cuba become more genuinely democratic... and I do mean genuinely democratic. Not just becoming another glorified neoliberal dystopia wholly dedicated to serving foreign interests.

[Cultural Posadism]

More or less this. Cuba has nothing to gain from regime change.

Why do you say that?

Because almost every single US-backed "regime change" has ended in tragedy.

Remember Libya? You know, the country that spent the entirety of the 2010s going from civil war to civil war? The country whose societal collapse was so cataclysmic that it ended up becoming a new center for slave trade?

[Ifreann]

Love the keyboard colonizers and imperialists here trying to gaslight Latin Americans into accepting US support for right-wing coups and dictatorships in our countries.

Hmm, you say you don't want the US to invade and overthrow your government, but we also interviewed an American whose great-grandfather was Cuban and he tells a very different story.

[Cultural Posadism]

Love the keyboard colonizers and imperialists here trying to gaslight Latin Americans into accepting US support for right-wing coups and dictatorships in our countries.

Hmm, you say you don't want the US to invade and overthrow your government, but we also interviewed an American whose great-grandfather was Cuban and he tells a very different story.

"FIDEL TOOK MY GRANDDADDY'S HOME* AND ALL HIS WORKERS**!!!"

* massive slave plantation
** slaves

[Salus Maior]

Why do you say that?

Because almost every single US-backed "regime change" has ended in tragedy.

Remember Libya? You know, the country that spent the entirety of the 2010s going from civil war to civil war? The country whose societal collapse was so cataclysmic that it ended up becoming a new center for slave trade?

I think that was more the EU than the U.S.

[Ethel mermania]

Love the keyboard colonizers and imperialists here trying to gaslight Latin Americans into accepting US support for right-wing coups and dictatorships in our countries.

Hmm, you say you don't want the US to invade and overthrow your government, but we also interviewed an American whose great-grandfather was Cuban and he tells a very different story.

In America There are 10's if not 100's of thousands of Cubans who are descendants of those who fled Castro who are praying for US intervention in Cuba.

Tbf to us, we only tried it once

[Heloin]

Hmm, you say you don't want the US to invade and overthrow your government, but we also interviewed an American whose great-grandfather was Cuban and he tells a very different story.

In America There are 10's if not 100's of thousands of Cubans who are descendants of those who fled Castro who are praying for US intervention in Cuba.

Cool, Americans with no intention of moving to a country that will face the real world consequences of an invasion want an invasion.

Tbf to us, we only tried it once

The US has a long proud history of installing dictorships that kill thousands or creating civil wars in Latin America. It isn’t that you failed once in Cuba, it’s that you have a track record drenched in blood.

[Ethel mermania]

In America There are 10's if not 100's of thousands of Cubans who are descendants of those who fled Castro who are praying for US intervention in Cuba.

Cool, Americans with no intention of moving to a country that will face the real world consequences of an invasion want an invasion.

Tbf to us, we only tried it once

The US has a long proud history of installing dictorships that kill thousands or creating civil wars in Latin America. It isn’t that you failed once in Cuba, it’s that you have a track record drenched in blood.

1. The post was inresponse to iffy taking about one person supporting the view. Iffy is not American and really can't be expected to know that the view expressed is for better or worse a fairly popular in South Florida.

2. I am not supporting an American invasion of Cuba.

[The Archregimancy]

Hmm, you say you don't want the US to invade and overthrow your government, but we also interviewed an American whose great-grandfather was Cuban and he tells a very different story.

In America There are 10's if not 100's of thousands of Cubans who are descendants of those who fled Castro who are praying for US intervention in Cuba.

Tbf to us, we only tried it once

That might depend on how you define 'intervention'.

If you define intervention as 'directly supporting some form of armed invasion/uprising', then yes, the Bay of Pigs fiasco was the only direct intervention (edit: for total clarity, after Castro came to power).

If you define intervention as 'any attempt to overthrow Fidel Castro', then the decades-long blockade and series of increasingly baroque US government attempts to assassinate and/or humiliate Fidel (which the Cubans claim were continuing as late as the Clinton administration) might also count.

I imagine many Latin Americans might be more inclined to use the second metric; from this side of the Atlantic, I can see it being largely a matter of perspective.

[Heloin]

Cool, Americans with no intention of moving to a country that will face the real world consequences of an invasion want an invasion.


The US has a long proud history of installing dictorships that kill thousands or creating civil wars in Latin America. It isn’t that you failed once in Cuba, it’s that you have a track record drenched in blood.

1. The post was inresponse to iffy taking about one person supporting the view. Iffy is not American and really can't be expected to know that the view expressed is for better or worse a fairly popular in South Florida.

2. I am not supporting an American invasion of Cuba.

Florida’s opinions on most matters should be disregarded with extreme prejudice. South Florida’s opinions even more so.

[Just-An-Illusion]

bruh

“Free marketers” have backed brutal military dictatorships all around the world. Remember Pinochet? He was only one example. The US government doesn’t represent its people.

So far all you have done is repeat your claims with no attempt to even address anything I have said. Do you have even one single coherent argument against me?

The USA intervened and supported anti-Soviet, anti-communist indigenous forces around the globe to protect US national interests from a brutal, murderous communist dictatorship that was intent on global conquest and subjugation of all peoples of the planet.

What is the USA supposed to do? Sit back and watch Nazis and Marxists enslave the planet by attacking and subverting nations in the Western Hemisphere, Europe, Asian Pacific Rim, etc?

Marxist sociopaths would love a USA that stood down while they carved up the geopolitic (the Obama and Biden Doctrine).

Most importantly, once the brutal communist regime in Moscow was crushed by free market competitors in Europe, America and the Vatican, the USA immediately changed course and worked to democratize formerly authoritarian regimes they supported.

So what do we have today?

You mentioned Chile? Today it is more prosperous, peaceful and free than at anytime in its history. So is the rest of Europe, South America and the Asian Pacific Rim. Where the USA engaged Soviet forces by supporting anti-communist authoritarian regimes, virtually all of those nation-states are now far more free than they have ever been.

Your fallacious narrative has been duly debunked.

Dude just stop... Your just making the Cuban protesters look bad with your rants.

We shouldn't invade Cuba and we should definitely lift the embargo on Cuba.

[Philjia]

In America There are 10's if not 100's of thousands of Cubans who are descendants of those who fled Castro who are praying for US intervention in Cuba.

Tbf to us, we only tried it once

That might depend on how you define 'intervention'.

If you define intervention as 'directly supporting some form of armed invasion/uprising', then yes, the Bay of Pigs fiasco was the only direct intervention (edit: for total clarity, after Castro came to power).

If you define intervention as 'any attempt to overthrow Fidel Castro', then the decades-long blockade and series of increasingly baroque US government attempts to assassinate and/or humiliate Fidel (which the Cubans claim were continuing as late as the Clinton administration) might also count.

I imagine many Latin Americans might be more inclined to use the second metric; from this side of the Atlantic, I can see it being largely a matter of perspective.

I wonder how much public money was wasted on failing to assassinate Fidel Castro?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

That might depend on how you define 'intervention'.

If you define intervention as 'directly supporting some form of armed invasion/uprising', then yes, the Bay of Pigs fiasco was the only direct intervention (edit: for total clarity, after Castro came to power).

If you define intervention as 'any attempt to overthrow Fidel Castro', then the decades-long blockade and series of increasingly baroque US government attempts to assassinate and/or humiliate Fidel (which the Cubans claim were continuing as late as the Clinton administration) might also count.

I imagine many Latin Americans might be more inclined to use the second metric; from this side of the Atlantic, I can see it being largely a matter of perspective.

I wonder how much public money was wasted on failing to assassinate Fidel Castro?

Probs enough tax payer dollars to go to the Moon an additional 12 times using the Apollo system.

[Heloin]

I wonder how much public money was wasted on failing to assassinate Fidel Castro?

Probs enough tax payer dollars to go to the Moon an additional 12 times using the Apollo system.

We could go to the moon again, or we could give that money to Jimmy the snitch who says he has a really good plan to get Castro this time!