Breaking News Protests across Cuba against the Cuban Regime

[Picairn]

It’s a damn shame. We could have had powerful allies in Cuba and Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh had originally expressed support for the US and sought aid and support against the French, but we decided that “Commie bad” was more important.

We could have also kept Iran from going Islamist if we didn’t intervene there on the behalf of the British. Interestingly our failure in iran and Vietnam can be traced back to European powers not wanting to lose their empires. We should have just told the Brits and French to pound sand

The US back then considered that having European allies in a potential Soviet invasion of Europe was more important. Crucial US State Department's secretaries and diplomats were also more experienced and focused on European affairs than Asian and Central American ones. George F. Kennan himself admitted that his "entire diplomatic experience took place in rather high northern latitudes".

[Sungoldy-China]

As an empire that has survived from Afghanistan,
the United States currently keep the right to overthrow other regimes by force.
From any point of view, it is easier to kill the Cuban regime than Afghanistan, except that it is easier for Cuban refugees to reach the United States.

[Thermodolia]

As an empire that has survived from Afghanistan,
the United States currently keep the right to overthrow other regimes by force.
From any point of view, it is easier to kill the Cuban regime than Afghanistan, except that it is easier for Cuban refugees to reach the United States.

The only way I’ll support an overthrow of the Cuban government is if we can deport all of the Cubans living in Miami back to the Cuba they all claim to love

[Alcala-Cordel]

It's great to see how excited everyone in this thread is about the idea of Cuba overthrowing the United States government. This is exactly what we need, please bring us freedom and democracy!

[New Odrana]

1. Just because some people are infested with ideological brainworms doesn't mean we all need to be.

2. I mean, I guess, but that's not a high bar to clear.

1. We should be supportive of Nations that are progressive for their region. If the US really cared for the people of the world, we wouldn't support Saudi Arabia or the "democratic" regime in Myanmar that commits Genocide.

2. I don't care.

1. Of course the US doesn't really care for the people of the world. No country does. I also think it's funny that you condemn Myanmar on the basis of its genocide of Muslims while simultaneously defending China while it does the exact same thing lmao.

2. That makes two of us, then.
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As an empire that has survived from Afghanistan,
the United States currently keep the right to overthrow other regimes by force.
From any point of view, it is easier to kill the Cuban regime than Afghanistan, except that it is easier for Cuban refugees to reach the United States.

The only way I’ll support an overthrow of the Cuban government is if we can deport all of the Cubans living in Miami back to the Cuba they all claim to love

How about we just deport them all anyway and call it a day?

[Thermodolia]

1. We should be supportive of Nations that are progressive for their region. If the US really cared for the people of the world, we wouldn't support Saudi Arabia or the "democratic" regime in Myanmar that commits Genocide.

2. I don't care.

1. Of course the US doesn't really care for the people of the world. No country does. I also think it's funny that you condemn Myanmar on the basis of its genocide of Muslims while simultaneously defending China while it does the exact same thing lmao.

2. That makes two of us, then.
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The only way I’ll support an overthrow of the Cuban government is if we can deport all of the Cubans living in Miami back to the Cuba they all claim to love

How about we just deport them all anyway and call it a day?

Now you’re talking!

[Communal concils]

1. We should be supportive of Nations that are progressive for their region. If the US really cared for the people of the world, we wouldn't support Saudi Arabia or the "democratic" regime in Myanmar that commits Genocide.

2. I don't care.

1. Of course the US doesn't really care for the people of the world. No country does. I also think it's funny that you condemn Myanmar on the basis of its genocide of Muslims while simultaneously defending China while it does the exact same thing lmao.

2. That makes two of us, then.

1. we don't have refugees crossing the border in mass, photos of mass graves, nor is there any propaganda shown by the PRC that dehumanizes the Uyghers. However, we see all of this with the Rohingya Genocide. The Uyghers are considered Chinese citizens by law, while the Rohingya are strip of citizenship by the Burmese state.

2. Okay, Cuba is probably the best nation in the Caribbean because the rest of the region is exploited by the west and limited to Tourism for Yankees.

[Saiwania]

Bad take. Castro was an improvement over Batista in mostly every way.

No, I prefer how Cuba was under Batista compared to now. When a country doesn't know anything about business, it can't expect domestic industry or companies to be successful right off the bat. Perhaps Cuba was learning from the big and established global corporations of the day (which happened to be primarily American), until Castro came along to ruin all of it. Batista had Castro in custody before, it was evidently a mistake to have ever let him escape.

[Ayytaly]

Bad take. Castro was an improvement over Batista in mostly every way.

No, I prefer how Cuba was under Batista compared to now. When a country doesn't know anything about business, it can't expect domestic industry or companies to be successful right off the bat. Perhaps Cuba was learning from the big and established global corporations of the day (which happened to be primarily American), until Castro came along to ruin all of it. Batista had Castro in custody before, it was evidently a mistake to have ever let him escape.

Translation: "I prefer banana republic Cuba over self-reliant Cuba."

[Hispida]

Bad take. Castro was an improvement over Batista in mostly every way.

No, I prefer how Cuba was under Batista compared to now. When a country doesn't know anything about business, it can't expect domestic industry or companies to be successful right off the bat. Perhaps Cuba was learning from the big and established global corporations of the day (which happened to be primarily American), until Castro came along to ruin all of it. Batista had Castro in custody before, it was evidently a mistake to have ever let him escape.

Dude, I despite Castro and even I can tell that his regime is better than Batista's.

[New Odrana]

1. Of course the US doesn't really care for the people of the world. No country does. I also think it's funny that you condemn Myanmar on the basis of its genocide of Muslims while simultaneously defending China while it does the exact same thing lmao.

2. That makes two of us, then.

1. we don't have refugees crossing the border in mass, photos of mass graves, nor is there any propaganda shown by the PRC that dehumanizes the Uyghers. However, we see all of this with the Rohingya Genocide. The Uyghers are considered Chinese citizens by law, while the Rohingya are strip of citizenship by the Burmese state.

2. Okay, Cuba is probably the best nation in the Caribbean because the rest of the region is exploited by the west and limited to Tourism for Yankees.

1. Crossing what border "in mass"? (I think you mean en masse, not that it matters, I'm just a Grammar Nazi.) As for mass graves: most of the reports allege things like forced abortions and forced sterilization (which, yes, are still considered genocide) rather than outright Holocaust-type slaughter, so you wouldn't expect to see mass graves (not that they couldn't still be there, of course). And I would argue they absolutely are dehumanizing Uyghers; you demonstrated it yourself, by calling them "religious fundamentalists," thereby justifying their persecution. And the citizenship thing is just irrelevant. Sure, revoking citizenship is certainly a sign of genocide, but it's hardly a prerequisite.

2. I don't know if I'd go that far. Costa Rica's doing pretty well for themselves. Panama's not too bad, either, from what I hear. That said, I've never been to any of these countries, so I can't really say with certainty. And, dude, Cuba makes mad money from tourism. It's like 15% of their economy. Tourism from Yankees would do absolute bangers for them, which is exactly why the US government prevents it in the first place (though, I know some people who've been to Cuba and they apparently enjoyed their visit).

[Washington Resistance Army]

No, I prefer how Cuba was under Batista compared to now. When a country doesn't know anything about business, it can't expect domestic industry or companies to be successful right off the bat. Perhaps Cuba was learning from the big and established global corporations of the day (which happened to be primarily American), until Castro came along to ruin all of it. Batista had Castro in custody before, it was evidently a mistake to have ever let him escape.

Translation: "I prefer banana republic Cuba over self-reliant Cuba."

By his own admission Sai is a poorly educated NEET and a Nazi. He usually doesn't have good takes.

[Saiwania]

By his own admission Sai is a poorly educated NEET and a Nazi. He usually doesn't have good takes.

If a 2 year degree in Computer Engineering with Cum Laude counts as "poorly educated." I perhaps hate the higher education system as it exists, because I have first hand experience that much of it isn't all that useful or doesn't pay off. Something about it just makes it too expensive and the returns are diminishing for it, compared to how it used to be.

With a big enough windfall, maybe I'll manage to pick up a 4 year degree in something not ageist, like being an Accountant. Doesn't matter how hard it is, if it is where the money is, you best had sacrifice everything to get there if you can manage it.

I've looked into Cuba's higher education system some, and it doesn't look like the country has any universities of note or doesn't rate as well as it could. It might just be a law of the universe that higher education has to cost tons of money if it isn't subsidized via taxes.

[Ayytaly]

Translation: "I prefer banana republic Cuba over self-reliant Cuba."

By his own admission Sai is a poorly educated NEET and a Nazi. He usually doesn't have good takes.

Ironic that Sai doesn't point out that Castro was white.

[Atomic Testing Museum]

The time is now! We must make Puerto Rico and the United States Virgin Islands into the 51st and the 52nd states. The president of Haiti has been assassinated and Cuba has civil unrest! We must do this to secure power in the Caribbean before this opportunity passes! We should ask the United kingdom to also further integrate their territories as well.

[New Odrana]

By his own admission Sai is a poorly educated NEET and a Nazi. He usually doesn't have good takes.

If a 2 year degree in Computer Engineering with Cum Laude counts as "poorly educated." I perhaps hate the higher education system as it exists, because I have first hand experience that much of it isn't all that useful or doesn't pay off. Something about it just makes it too expensive and the returns are diminishing for it, compared to how it used to be.

With a big enough windfall, maybe I'll manage to pick up a 4 year degree in something not ageist, like being an Accountant. Doesn't matter how hard it is, if it is where the money is, you best had sacrifice everything to get there if you can manage it.

Lmao "ageist." Bruh, I personally know a computer engineer pushing 60. It's not "ageism," you picked a fast-growing career field with massive amounts of competition and only got a 2-year degree. If you're not getting hired, it's because every job you apply to has about 50 other applicants with 4-year degrees. You don't get an Associate's in a field like this, ffs.

[New Odrana]

The time is now! We must make Puerto Rico and the United States Virgin Islands into the 51st and the 52nd states. The president of Haiti has been assassinated and Cuba has civil unrest! We must do this to secure power in the Caribbean before this opportunity passes! We should ask the United kingdom to also further integrate their territories as well.

I like the way this guy thinks. Rule Britannia!

[Picairn]

The time is now! We must make Puerto Rico and the United States Virgin Islands into the 51st and the 52nd states. The president of Haiti has been assassinated and Cuba has civil unrest! We must do this to secure power in the Caribbean before this opportunity passes! We should ask the United kingdom to also further integrate their territories as well.

Calm down, McKinley.

[Ayytaly]

The time is now! We must make Puerto Rico and the United States Virgin Islands into the 51st and the 52nd states. The president of Haiti has been assassinated and Cuba has civil unrest! We must do this to secure power in the Caribbean before this opportunity passes! We should ask the United kingdom to also further integrate their territories as well.

Scotland says "nae".

[Saiwania]

Lmao "ageist." Bruh, I personally know a computer engineer pushing 60. It's not "ageism," you picked a fast-growing career field with massive amounts of competition and only got a 2-year degree. If you're not getting hired, it's because every job you apply to has about 50 other applicants with 4-year degrees. You don't get an Associate's in a field like this, ffs.

I couldn't secure the funding or budget for anything past 2 years. So, that was it. If it didn't work out- its time for me to conclude that its useless for helping me any. Am looking at trades instead but don't have the money for training. For the tech industry in general, its absolutely true that many companies in that sector try to push out people who're past a certain age, by definition they're ageist. I had underestimated that problem, but its clearly there, especially for anything from Silicon Valley.

Moving on...
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2021 ... -riot-law/

It seems that with the right politics, that the police in Florida collectively decide to not enforce something that's on the books. Not all protests/riots will be treated equally. Some such as in this case, will be allowed to happen.

[Ayytaly]

Lmao "ageist." Bruh, I personally know a computer engineer pushing 60. It's not "ageism," you picked a fast-growing career field with massive amounts of competition and only got a 2-year degree. If you're not getting hired, it's because every job you apply to has about 50 other applicants with 4-year degrees. You don't get an Associate's in a field like this, ffs.

I couldn't secure the funding or budget for anything past 2 years. So, that was it. If it didn't work out- its time for me to conclude that its useless for helping me any. Am looking at trades instead but don't have the money for training. For the tech industry in general, its absolutely true that many companies in that sector try to push out people who're past a certain age, by definition they're ageist. I had underestimated that problem, but its clearly there, especially for anything from Silicon Valley.

Maybe it's your attitude?

[Communal concils]

1. we don't have refugees crossing the border in mass, photos of mass graves, nor is there any propaganda shown by the PRC that dehumanizes the Uyghers. However, we see all of this with the Rohingya Genocide. The Uyghers are considered Chinese citizens by law, while the Rohingya are strip of citizenship by the Burmese state.

2. Okay, Cuba is probably the best nation in the Caribbean because the rest of the region is exploited by the west and limited to Tourism for Yankees.

1. Crossing what border "in mass"? (I think you mean en masse, not that it matters, I'm just a Grammar Nazi.) As for mass graves: most of the reports allege things like forced abortions and forced sterilization (which, yes, are still considered genocide) rather than outright Holocaust-type slaughter, so you wouldn't expect to see mass graves (not that they couldn't still be there, of course). And I would argue they absolutely are dehumanizing Uyghers; you demonstrated it yourself, by calling them "religious fundamentalists," thereby justifying their persecution. And the citizenship thing is just irrelevant. Sure, revoking citizenship is certainly a sign of genocide, but it's hardly a prerequisite.

2. I don't know if I'd go that far. Costa Rica's doing pretty well for themselves. Panama's not too bad, either, from what I hear. That said, I've never been to any of these countries, so I can't really say with certainty. And, dude, Cuba makes mad money from tourism. It's like 15% of their economy. Tourism from Yankees would do absolute bangers for them, which is exactly why the US government prevents it in the first place (though, I know some people who've been to Cuba and they apparently enjoyed their visit).

1.In most genocides( including the holocaust) , we see a mass exodus of ethnic minorities. This isn't the case in Xinjiang. Plus, there's still not that much evidence that shows these allege actions of crimes against humanity. And no, I dehumanized no one. I'm aware of the fact that terrorism is an issue with Xinjiang . To Americans like Mike Pompeo, the al-Qaeda aligned terrorist aren't terrorist( because of Geo-political reasons)

2. The problem is not tourism, its that fact that these nations depend on it too much. Any society that doesn't have economic diversification is doomed.

[Picairn]

1.In most genocides( including the holocaust) , we see a mass exodus of ethnic minorities. This isn't the case in Xinjiang. Plus, there's still not that much evidence that shows these allege actions of crimes against humanity. And no, I dehumanized no one. I'm aware of the fact that terrorism is an issue with Xinjiang . To Americans like Mike Pompeo, the al-Qaeda aligned terrorist aren't terrorist( because of Geo-political reasons)

Hard to commit a mass exodus when people are being jailed in mass internment camps. Besides, many Uyghurs have fled to Turkey, and even then they are not safe.

Ironically you are using the War on Terror excuse to justify the Uyghur genocide. Tell me, was the US justified to utilize mass surveillance and torture to combat terrorists? Or do you support totalitarian regimes so long as they fly red colors?

[Pasong Tirad]

By his own admission Sai is a poorly educated NEET and a Nazi. He usually doesn't have good takes.

If a 2 year degree in Computer Engineering with Cum Laude counts as "poorly educated." I perhaps hate the higher education system as it exists, because I have first hand experience that much of it isn't all that useful or doesn't pay off. Something about it just makes it too expensive and the returns are diminishing for it, compared to how it used to be.

With a big enough windfall, maybe I'll manage to pick up a 4 year degree in something not ageist, like being an Accountant. Doesn't matter how hard it is, if it is where the money is, you best had sacrifice everything to get there if you can manage it.

I've looked into Cuba's higher education system some, and it doesn't look like the country has any universities of note or doesn't rate as well as it could. It might just be a law of the universe that higher education has to cost tons of money if it isn't subsidized via taxes.

A Nazi with a diploma is still a Nazi. This doesn't change the fact that the toppling of Batista's military dictatorship was a net improvement for the quality of life of all Cubans. But it's not like you would care about the lives of anybody who wasn't a WASP.

[Nilokeras]

You'd think at some point we'd all collectively be smart enough to not indulge in the Saiwana sideshow but alas, here we are