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Breaking News Protests Across Cuba Against the Cuban Government Vote and Discuss Statements

01 - As long as the Committees for the Defense of the Revolution of Cuba, The CDRs exist in Cuba, there will not be any western style democratic change, with all its faults and merits.
54
11%
02 - The USA should create a Naval Blockade of Cuba, nothing goes in, nothing goes out, until Cuban regime falls from within and without?
33
7%
03 - The Cuban government Leaders Need to Resign Power and Leave Cuba for España La Madre Patria, or any Nations, this is the only Peaceful Solution for the Cuban People Possible in Cuba.
45
9%
04 - If Nations Help Cuba economically, you are not helping the Cuban People Democratically, You are Helping the Cuban government leaders stay in Power.
48
10%
05 - The Cuban government leaders will Make Economic Reforms with the help of friendly nations, thereby helping the Cuban People.
32
7%
06 - The Cuban government leaders will Make western style political reforms with all its faults and merits, with the help of friendly nations, there by helping the Cuban People.
12
3%
07 - If the Cuban government uses considerable force against Cuban Protestors, the EU and EU Nations, Should Enforce and International Embargo on Cuba, similar to the International Embargo on South Africa, Perhaps other nations to Discuss?
41
9%
08 - The USA should create a strong Embargo against the Cuban government regime?
33
7%
09 - The Cuban government leaders will never give UP Power Peacefully.
62
13%
10- The USA should respect the Cuban government and do nothing?
114
24%
 
Total votes : 474

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Postby Orostan » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:24 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Orostan wrote:The “evil Castro regime” is why Cubans have healthcare and can read.

I mean, other Latin American countries also increased their literacy rate at the time, all of which started lower than cuba.

I strongly doubt that they did it as quickly or in similar circumstances to Cuba.

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How powerful is Cuba’s military?

Would they have a chance?

They’d get slaughtered in a straight fight but Cuba has had 60 years to prepare for the USA.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:25 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
How powerful is Cuba’s military?

Would they have a chance?

90,000 regular, 1.146 Million paramilitary.


Are they mostly using Cold War era Soviet arms? Or are they upgraded? Do they have anti-ship missiles?

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:25 pm

Orostan wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:I mean, other Latin American countries also increased their literacy rate at the time, all of which started lower than cuba.

I strongly doubt that they did it as quickly or in similar circumstances to Cuba.

Infected Mushroom wrote:
How powerful is Cuba’s military?

Would they have a chance?

They’d get slaughtered in a straight fight but Cuba has had 60 years to prepare for the USA.


No sea-skimming antiship missiles?

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Postby Orostan » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:26 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:90,000 regular, 1.146 Million paramilitary.


Are they mostly using Cold War era Soviet arms? Or are they upgraded? Do they have anti-ship missiles?

Late Cold War weapons mostly as I understand it.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:26 pm

Maybe end the embargo and leave Cuba alone question mark

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:27 pm

Orostan wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Are they mostly using Cold War era Soviet arms? Or are they upgraded? Do they have anti-ship missiles?

Late Cold War weapons mostly as I understand it.


I see…

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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:36 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:90,000 regular, 1.146 Million paramilitary.


Are they mostly using Cold War era Soviet arms? Or are they upgraded? Do they have anti-ship missiles?

Okay, from what's I've seen most of their stuff is soviet and created in the 60's, a good chunk of Cuban artillery isn't even in service within Russia anymore, and not even the USSR when it collapsed, and they have no anti-ship missiles, and this is for the main army.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:27 pm

What Cuba has doesn't matter. American lack of competency will turn it into another Afghanistan where they spend 20 years trying to fix the failed state they created and then run home with their tails between their legs, leaving Castroites to resume business.

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Postby Fauzjhia » Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:40 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:What Cuba has doesn't matter. American lack of competency will turn it into another Afghanistan where they spend 20 years trying to fix the failed state they created and then run home with their tails between their legs, leaving Castroites to resume business.



this is a very pessimist, but realist vision of things.
we all know Afghanistan is going to fall to the talibans.
there is no reason why a state who has failed the establishment of others states would succeed in one like Cuba, just like Magic. that's dreaming.


I doubt the USA want to topple Cuba, I suspects parties have reason to not interfere with Cuba. its not that popular among democrats, and I believe republican have no reason to see cuban exile returning to a capitalist Cuba, since it would they would not vote in Florida anymore, and it may very well threaten their ability to carry the state, they need the vote of Cuban-Americans to in that state, and by consequent the presidential election, and maybe more.
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Postby Odreria » Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:48 pm

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Postby Vikanias » Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:51 pm

Well if the CIA gets involved let’s hope they try to kill Castro from the grave yet fail over 600 times like they did in the past.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:58 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Are they mostly using Cold War era Soviet arms? Or are they upgraded? Do they have anti-ship missiles?

Okay, from what's I've seen most of their stuff is soviet and created in the 60's, a good chunk of Cuban artillery isn't even in service within Russia anymore, and not even the USSR when it collapsed, and they have no anti-ship missiles, and this is for the main army.


Then they’re in big trouble if the USA attacks. If they had a couple of sea-skimmers, they could at least threaten to launch them and take out expensive US warships manned by thousands if the USA decided to attack.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:00 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:What Cuba has doesn't matter. American lack of competency will turn it into another Afghanistan where they spend 20 years trying to fix the failed state they created and then run home with their tails between their legs, leaving Castroites to resume business.


What if the UK could offer guidance and leadership in the state building?

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:18 pm

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:What Cuba has doesn't matter. American lack of competency will turn it into another Afghanistan where they spend 20 years trying to fix the failed state they created and then run home with their tails between their legs, leaving Castroites to resume business.


What if the UK could offer guidance and leadership in the state building?

UK can't even keep its own backyard free from explosions, what makes you think it'll do anything beneficial in an American colonial war?

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Postby Luziyca » Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:26 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:What Cuba has doesn't matter. American lack of competency will turn it into another Afghanistan where they spend 20 years trying to fix the failed state they created and then run home with their tails between their legs, leaving Castroites to resume business.


What if the UK could offer guidance and leadership in the state building?

The last time they tried to do that, ISIS became a thing.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:48 am

The OP: To all my fellow NSers Please see these videos and articles.
Twitter Videos on Cuba Protestors - You can tell the difference between the videos of Cubans in Cuba and the Videos of Cuban Americans in Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville and other US Cities.

I am so Tech Stupid I don't know what the Heck, I'm doing, with Pride and Honor, lol :) You can make comments, I think.

Cuban Americans in Front of The White House: We Love Cuba - We Love Cuba - We Love Cuba:
https://twitter.com/posterII/status/1415228637687713794
Re Tweeted by GMS Crazy Cuban Alberto, with Pride and Honor, :) lol.
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Cuban Americans Demonstrate in La Pequeña La Habana - Versailles Restuarant Calle 8 Street:
https://www.cbs42.com/news/national/cub ... -protests/

https://twitter.com/Christina_UGC/statu ... h_comments

Cuban Americans Video Says - Where is Biden? Where is Biden? Where is Biden?
https://twitter.com/posterII/status/1415229462296268801
Re Tweeted by GMS Crazy Cuban Alberto, with Pride and Honor, :) lol again.

Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, USA and Cuba Videos:
https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cuba?f=tweets

Please see these videos and links in English.
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/07 ... on-n410470 Ron DeSantis made a statement of support for the Cuban People on Sunday. President Trump made a statement of support for the Cuban People on Monday. I will Post it eventually. Republican Governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis. Republican President Trump of the USA.

Cuba Pics and videos In Spanish:
https://cubanosporelmundo.com/2021/07/1 ... -camaguey/

Miami Cubans and Cubans in Cuba Scroll down Videos:
https://www.gopusa.com/category/tmnh/

This video might take a little while.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CRSY-taDMm ... daa0da1d54
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:32 am

Vikanias wrote:Well if the CIA gets involved let’s hope they try to kill Castro from the grave yet fail over 600 times like they did in the past.

With their luck they'll probably end up reviving him
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:37 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Yes and yes.

Ethel mi Amiga. I support poll option 2 - 02 - The USA should create a Naval Blockade of Cuba, nothing goes in, nothing goes out, until Cuban regime falls from within and without? Supported by 12 of us so far.


While I have no love for the Cuban government. I think we should leave them alone. Cuba will sort itself out.
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Postby Orostan » Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:07 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:The OP: To all my fellow NSers Please see these videos and articles.
Twitter Videos on Cuba Protestors - You can tell the difference between the videos of Cubans in Cuba and the Videos of Cuban Americans in Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville and other US Cities.

I am so Tech Stupid I don't know what the Heck, I'm doing, with Pride and Honor, lol :) You can make comments, I think.

Cuban Americans in Front of The White House: We Love Cuba - We Love Cuba - We Love Cuba:
https://twitter.com/posterII/status/1415228637687713794
Re Tweeted by GMS Crazy Cuban Alberto, with Pride and Honor, :) lol.
:
Cuban Americans Demonstrate in La Pequeña La Habana - Versailles Restuarant Calle 8 Street:
https://www.cbs42.com/news/national/cub ... -protests/

https://twitter.com/Christina_UGC/statu ... h_comments

Cuban Americans Video Says - Where is Biden? Where is Biden? Where is Biden?
https://twitter.com/posterII/status/1415229462296268801
Re Tweeted by GMS Crazy Cuban Alberto, with Pride and Honor, :) lol again.

Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, USA and Cuba Videos:
https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cuba?f=tweets

Please see these videos and links in English.
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/07 ... on-n410470 Ron DeSantis made a statement of support for the Cuban People on Sunday. President Trump made a statement of support for the Cuban People on Monday. I will Post it eventually. Republican Governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis. Republican President Trump of the USA.

Cuba Pics and videos In Spanish:
https://cubanosporelmundo.com/2021/07/1 ... -camaguey/

Miami Cubans and Cubans in Cuba Scroll down Videos:
https://www.gopusa.com/category/tmnh/

This video might take a little while.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CRSY-taDMm ... daa0da1d54

What Miami Cubans say is irrelevant - they in no way represent actual Cubans.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:11 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Yes and yes.

Ethel mi Amiga. I support poll option 2 - 02 - The USA should create a Naval Blockade of Cuba, nothing goes in, nothing goes out, until Cuban regime falls from within and without? Supported by 12 of us so far.

Good to know that 12 of you are ok with the idea of spilling American blood for your colonial project for the next 20 years.

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Postby Heloin » Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:15 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Ethel mi Amiga. I support poll option 2 - 02 - The USA should create a Naval Blockade of Cuba, nothing goes in, nothing goes out, until Cuban regime falls from within and without? Supported by 12 of us so far.

Good to know that 12 of you are ok with the idea of spilling American blood for your colonial project for the next 20 years.

America just ended one failure of a forever war so when’s a better time to jump into another?

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Postby Elpis and Eris » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:01 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Ethel mi Amiga. I support poll option 2 - 02 - The USA should create a Naval Blockade of Cuba, nothing goes in, nothing goes out, until Cuban regime falls from within and without? Supported by 12 of us so far.

Good to know that 12 of you are ok with the idea of spilling American blood for your colonial project for the next 20 years.

Don't worry, according to GMS there'll be a bloodless power change after which Cuban Americans will pour tons of money that they totally have into a foreign country.
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Postby Grootfries Rijk » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:09 am

Elpis and Eris wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Good to know that 12 of you are ok with the idea of spilling American blood for your colonial project for the next 20 years.

Don't worry, according to GMS there'll be a bloodless power change after which Cuban Americans will pour tons of money that they totally have into a foreign country.

I mean tbh remittance is something that exists and that plays a major part in the economies of many other Caribbean and Latin American countries so it's not like GMS's claims are unfounded. Just, you know, no way to prove them until after the current regime falls.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:10 am

The OP: Brutal Repression of Cubans in their House by the Cuban Regime Forces. You hear the Mom of the Cubans Say My Sons, they were shot At, Please View the Video Link Provided:
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CRTtW1PDCc ... b7c7957a52
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:12 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:The OP: Brutal Repression of Cubans in their House by the Cuban Regime Forces. You hear the Mom of the Cubans Say My Sons, they were shot At, Please View the Video Link Provided:
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CRTtW1PDCc ... b7c7957a52

You were ok with American protesters getting shot at in DC last June and now you are objecting to Cuban protesters getting it?
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