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Breaking News Protests across Cuba against the Cuban Regime

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Breaking News Protests Across Cuba Against the Cuban Government Vote and Discuss Statements

01 - As long as the Committees for the Defense of the Revolution of Cuba, The CDRs exist in Cuba, there will not be any western style democratic change, with all its faults and merits.
54
11%
02 - The USA should create a Naval Blockade of Cuba, nothing goes in, nothing goes out, until Cuban regime falls from within and without?
33
7%
03 - The Cuban government Leaders Need to Resign Power and Leave Cuba for España La Madre Patria, or any Nations, this is the only Peaceful Solution for the Cuban People Possible in Cuba.
45
9%
04 - If Nations Help Cuba economically, you are not helping the Cuban People Democratically, You are Helping the Cuban government leaders stay in Power.
48
10%
05 - The Cuban government leaders will Make Economic Reforms with the help of friendly nations, thereby helping the Cuban People.
32
7%
06 - The Cuban government leaders will Make western style political reforms with all its faults and merits, with the help of friendly nations, there by helping the Cuban People.
12
3%
07 - If the Cuban government uses considerable force against Cuban Protestors, the EU and EU Nations, Should Enforce and International Embargo on Cuba, similar to the International Embargo on South Africa, Perhaps other nations to Discuss?
41
9%
08 - The USA should create a strong Embargo against the Cuban government regime?
33
7%
09 - The Cuban government leaders will never give UP Power Peacefully.
62
13%
10- The USA should respect the Cuban government and do nothing?
114
24%
 
Total votes : 474

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:42 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:

Kowani mi Amigo. Do you support the Cuban government? If you support the Cuban government, that is your democratic right to do so.

We can oppose the Cuban govt while also saying that a military invasion would be the worst idea in American history.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:45 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Kowani mi Amigo. Do you support the Cuban government? If you support the Cuban government, that is your democratic right to do so.

We can oppose the Cuban govt while also saying that a military invasion would be the worst idea in American history.

ok good point. Do you oppose or support the Cuban government?
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Postby Fauzjhia » Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:33 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:We can oppose the Cuban govt while also saying that a military invasion would be the worst idea in American history.

ok good point. Do you oppose or support the Cuban government?


he claim to be in opposition to both the US and the Cuban government
did you even read his post ? are you trying to read ( i oppose the cuban government so i approve the embargo and military intervention. )
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:03 pm



Well, this is just a case of historical grievances.

Is Suarez Cuban? Maybe of refugee stock?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:18 pm

Salus Maior wrote:


Well, this is just a case of historical grievances.

Is Suarez Cuban? Maybe of refugee stock?

Yes and yes.
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Postby Atomic Testing Museum » Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:33 pm

Do you guys think these protests are going to turn into a civil war? Like Myanmar or as others know it Burma.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:33 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Well, this is just a case of historical grievances.

Is Suarez Cuban? Maybe of refugee stock?

Yes and yes.

Ethel mi Amiga. I support poll option 2 - 02 - The USA should create a Naval Blockade of Cuba, nothing goes in, nothing goes out, until Cuban regime falls from within and without? Supported by 12 of us so far.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:35 pm

Atomic Testing Museum wrote:Do you guys think these protests are going to turn into a civil war? Like Myanmar or as others know it Burma.


No, everything I'm seeing from Cuba itself makes it seem like the protests are (were?, idk how many new ones have even happened) heavily outnumbered by counterprotests.
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Postby Heloin » Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:40 pm

Atomic Testing Museum wrote:Do you guys think these protests are going to turn into a civil war? Like Myanmar or as others know it Burma.

Likely only in the dreams of Cuban exiles.
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Postby Christian Confederation » Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:42 pm

It's simple we send in Paratroopers and Spec ops into Cuba. Shock and Awe, Land in Cuba and bring humanitarian aid for the Citizens. Round up the Commies and help the Citizens set up a democratic government. Open Cuba to US Companies. Once we introduce the people of Cuba to Democratic Ideas and Free Market Principles we can help them set up the government. Once things are running Smoothly they can vote to go Independent, Become an Associated State, or join the Union.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:54 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Atomic Testing Museum wrote:Do you guys think these protests are going to turn into a civil war? Like Myanmar or as others know it Burma.


No, everything I'm seeing from Cuba itself makes it seem like the protests are (were?, idk how many new ones have even happened) heavily outnumbered by counterprotests.

lol, :) :rofl:
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Postby Elpis and Eris » Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:03 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
No, everything I'm seeing from Cuba itself makes it seem like the protests are (were?, idk how many new ones have even happened) heavily outnumbered by counterprotests.

lol, :) :rofl:

Do you have a reputable news source that says otherwise?
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:05 pm

Elpis and Eris wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:lol, :) :rofl:

Do you have a reputable news source that says otherwise?

Ask the other poster?
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Postby Elpis and Eris » Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:46 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Elpis and Eris wrote:Do you have a reputable news source that says otherwise?

Ask the other poster?

You called WRA's information laughable, I'm assuming you have something to add to the discussion that showed protests are outweighing counter-protests.

Still waiting to hear why you want your family to go thru what, say, the Iraqi civilians have been thru since the US decided to "help" them.
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Postby Orostan » Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:51 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:It's simple we send in Paratroopers and Spec ops into Cuba. Shock and Awe, Land in Cuba and bring humanitarian aid for the Citizens. Round up the Commies and help the Citizens set up a democratic government. Open Cuba to US Companies. Once we introduce the people of Cuba to Democratic Ideas and Free Market Principles we can help them set up the government. Once things are running Smoothly they can vote to go Independent, Become an Associated State, or join the Union.

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Postby Greater Liyue » Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:57 pm

We of Greater Liyue support the Cuban people in their struggle for freedom. We wish them the best and support them in their fight against Communism. Hopefully 2021 is the Cuban version of 1989 in Central/Eastern Europe.

I lived in Miami for years. Had loads of Cuban friends. I love Cubans. They are friendly, intriguing, and they work hard in the extreme. I had friends who survived the labor camps in Cuba. The evil Castro regime (don't tell me Diaz-Canel isn't a puppet of Raul Castro) is basically just Latin America's East Germany. Cuba deserves better than the Marxists. Viva Cuba Libre!

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Postby Orostan » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:00 pm

Greater Liyue wrote:We of Greater Liyue support the Cuban people in their struggle for freedom. We wish them the best and support them in their fight against Communism. Hopefully 2021 is the Cuban version of 1989 in Central/Eastern Europe.

I lived in Miami for years. Had loads of Cuban friends. I love Cubans. They are friendly, intriguing, and they work hard in the extreme. I had friends who survived the labor camps in Cuba. The evil Castro regime (don't tell me Diaz-Canel isn't a puppet of Raul Castro) is basically just Latin America's East Germany. Cuba deserves better than the Marxists. Viva Cuba Libre!

The “evil Castro regime” is why Cubans have healthcare and can read.
“It is difficult for me to imagine what “personal liberty” is enjoyed by an unemployed hungry person. True freedom can only be where there is no exploitation and oppression of one person by another; where there is not unemployment, and where a person is not living in fear of losing his job, his home and his bread. Only in such a society personal and any other freedom can exist for real and not on paper.” -J. V. STALIN
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Postby Picairn » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:11 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:It's simple we send in Paratroopers and Spec ops into Cuba. Shock and Awe, Land in Cuba and bring humanitarian aid for the Citizens. Round up the Commies and help the Citizens set up a democratic government. Open Cuba to US Companies. Once we introduce the people of Cuba to Democratic Ideas and Free Market Principles we can help them set up the government. Once things are running Smoothly they can vote to go Independent, Become an Associated State, or join the Union.

Good old 1890s American imperialism, straight from the trash can of history.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:16 pm

Elpis and Eris wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Ask the other poster?

You called WRA's information laughable, I'm assuming you have something to add to the discussion that showed protests are outweighing counter-protests.

Still waiting to hear why you want your family to go thru what, say, the Iraqi civilians have been thru since the US decided to "help" them.

A few of the Links are in Spanish. A few of the Links are in English. You might speak Spanish and understand Spanish. But I don't know. But I know there are many Persons on NS who speak and understand Spanish. Your Premises are wrong in this case.
Buddy: I explained it to you but you don't agree with my answers. I want my Family still in Cuba to live in a, Democratic, Muliti, Political, Prosperous, Capitalist Nation. LIke the USA, Canada and European Nations. In Cuba's case, Rich $ Cuban Americans, will invest $ in Cuba, creating many jobs in Cuba for the Cuban People. There are many US Corporations ready, willing and able to invest $ in Cuba, creating many jobs in Cuba for the Cuban People. Many European nations want to invest $ in Cuba, creating many jobs for the Cuban People. Many other nations want to invest $ in Cuba, creating many jobs in Cuba. Cubans in Cuba will be able to invest $ in Cuba, creating many small businesses and large corporations. They want to invest $ in a Capitalist Cuba. They want to invest in a multi, political, party nation like the New Cuba Republic. Your Premises are wrong in this case.

I know and I understand you support the Cuban government. I know and I understand, you think the Cuban government, is a communist, socialist, democracy. I as a native Cuban I strongly respect your democratic rights and freedom of speech, to strongly disagree with me and post it to me and all of us. I doesn't bother me. I strongly respect, all persons, democratic rights to strongly disagree with me, on Republican President Donald J Trump of the USA, Republicans, my native Cuba and all issues. I doesn't bother me. I Practice What I Preach with Pride and Honor. GMS Crazy Cuban Alberto, with Pride and Honor.

Here are many links in Spanish with video links and Pics, on a few of them, click the arrows you see to see more Pics.

https://diariodecuba.com/cuba/1626181586_32611.html

https://diariodecuba.com/cuba/1626221457_32636.html

https://diariodecuba.com/cuba/1626179080_32616.html

https://www.cibercuba.com/noticias/2021 ... cia-arroyo

https://www.cibercuba.com/noticias/2021 ... s-derechos

https://www.cibercuba.com/noticias/2021 ... -protestar

These Links are in English from Aljazeera;
https://www.aljazeera.com/where/cuba
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:17 pm

Orostan wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:It's simple we send in Paratroopers and Spec ops into Cuba. Shock and Awe, Land in Cuba and bring humanitarian aid for the Citizens. Round up the Commies and help the Citizens set up a democratic government. Open Cuba to US Companies. Once we introduce the people of Cuba to Democratic Ideas and Free Market Principles we can help them set up the government. Once things are running Smoothly they can vote to go Independent, Become an Associated State, or join the Union.

bruh

For once I agree. It's not gonna be that simple. You can't just land in Cuba again and expect no resistance at the landing. It will take far to long to make cubans like democracy, and if it takes to long resistance will rise. Not to mention Cuba joining the US is silly.
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Postby Orostan » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:19 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Elpis and Eris wrote:You called WRA's information laughable, I'm assuming you have something to add to the discussion that showed protests are outweighing counter-protests.

Still waiting to hear why you want your family to go thru what, say, the Iraqi civilians have been thru since the US decided to "help" them.

A few of the Links are in Spanish. A few of the Links are in English. You might speak Spanish and understand Spanish. But I don't know. But I know there are many Persons on NS who speak and understand Spanish.
Buddy: I explained it to you but you don't agree with my answers. I want my Family still in Cuba to live in a, Democratic, Muliti, Political, Prosperous, Capitalist Nation. LIke the USA, Canada and European Nations. In Cuba's case, Rich $ Cuban Americans, will invest $ in Cuba, creating many jobs in Cuba for the Cuban People. There are many US Corporations ready, willing and able to invest $ in Cuba, creating many jobs in Cuba for the Cuban People. Many European nations want to invest $ in Cuba, creating many jobs for the Cuban People. Many other nations want to invest $ in Cuba, creating many jobs in Cuba. Cubans in Cuba will be able to invest $ in Cuba, creating many small businesses and large corporations. They want to invest $ in Capitalist Cuba. They want to invest in a multi, political, party nation like the New Cuba Republic. Your Premises are wrong.

I know and I understand you support the Cuban government. I know and I understand, you think the Cuban government, is a communist, socialist, democracy. I as a native Cuban I strongly respect your democratic rights and freedom of speech, to strongly disagree with me and post it to me and all of us. I doesn't bother me. I strongly respect, all persons, democratic rights to strongly disagree with me, on Republican President Donald J Trump of the USA, Republicans, my native Cuba and all issues. I doesn't bother me. I Practice What I Preach with Pride and Honor. GMS Crazy Cuban Alberto, with Pride and Honor.

Here are many links in Spanish with video links and Pics, on a few of them, click the arrows you see to see more Pics.

https://diariodecuba.com/cuba/1626181586_32611.html

https://diariodecuba.com/cuba/1626221457_32636.html

https://diariodecuba.com/cuba/1626179080_32616.html

https://www.cibercuba.com/noticias/2021 ... cia-arroyo

https://www.cibercuba.com/noticias/2021 ... s-derechos

https://www.cibercuba.com/noticias/2021 ... -protestar

These Links are in English from Aljazeera;
https://www.aljazeera.com/where/cuba

The last time American corporations and rich Cubans owned that island they had a revolution about it.
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:22 pm

Orostan wrote:
Greater Liyue wrote:We of Greater Liyue support the Cuban people in their struggle for freedom. We wish them the best and support them in their fight against Communism. Hopefully 2021 is the Cuban version of 1989 in Central/Eastern Europe.

I lived in Miami for years. Had loads of Cuban friends. I love Cubans. They are friendly, intriguing, and they work hard in the extreme. I had friends who survived the labor camps in Cuba. The evil Castro regime (don't tell me Diaz-Canel isn't a puppet of Raul Castro) is basically just Latin America's East Germany. Cuba deserves better than the Marxists. Viva Cuba Libre!

The “evil Castro regime” is why Cubans have healthcare and can read.

I mean, other Latin American countries also increased their literacy rate at the time, all of which started lower than cuba.
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Postby Elpis and Eris » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:22 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:I know and I understand you support the Cuban government. I know and I understand, you think the Cuban government, is a communist, socialist, democracy.

Quote where I even gave my opinion of the Cuban government, much less this specific one, and I'll say something genuinely nice about Trump.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:22 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:It's simple we send in Paratroopers and Spec ops into Cuba. Shock and Awe, Land in Cuba and bring humanitarian aid for the Citizens. Round up the Commies and help the Citizens set up a democratic government. Open Cuba to US Companies. Once we introduce the people of Cuba to Democratic Ideas and Free Market Principles we can help them set up the government. Once things are running Smoothly they can vote to go Independent, Become an Associated State, or join the Union.


How powerful is Cuba’s military?

Would they have a chance?

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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:24 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:It's simple we send in Paratroopers and Spec ops into Cuba. Shock and Awe, Land in Cuba and bring humanitarian aid for the Citizens. Round up the Commies and help the Citizens set up a democratic government. Open Cuba to US Companies. Once we introduce the people of Cuba to Democratic Ideas and Free Market Principles we can help them set up the government. Once things are running Smoothly they can vote to go Independent, Become an Associated State, or join the Union.


How powerful is Cuba’s military?

Would they have a chance?

90,000 regular, 1.146 Million paramilitary.
My Kaiserreich Cold War RP-https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=507613&sid=a338bded6a6009aba44e8b2d0d1d04c4
My Kaiserreich/The Burning Sun German Empire Political Roleplay-https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=514195&sid=fd8a29ac7c4e1a97e9bc4266e116a56f

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