Breaking News Protests across Cuba against the Cuban Regime

[Pasong Tirad]

Can we just annex Cuba and call it a day?

What a fantastic suggestion, person with a Confederate flag avatar.

[Odreria]

Because it isn't that he was implying I'm an authoritarian, he goes around implying I'm specifically a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist, and has only done so because I disagreed with him on foreign policy regarding China and Taiwan.

I honestly didn't remember it, and that's not the reason at all. It's your seemingly sympathetic nature to certain regimes and Mao's reeducation through labor, and now you want the regime to remain in power despite the protests, regardless of popular support? How is that not at least resemble ML thought or positions. Your flags don't help either. I'm not a Republican who labels people without evidence so I feel pretty justified to at least coming to that conclusion.

You wanting the U.S. to abandon Taiwan would not be enough to come to any conclusions about your ideology. In fact, I did not even remember that discussion.

Maoment

[Picairn]

Can we just annex Cuba and call it a day?

Lmao imperialism, McKinley-style. If you want to annex it so bad, why don't you organize a team and try to take it? It's not like it has ever failed before...

[Infected Mushroom]

Can we just annex Cuba and call it a day?

How long would it take for the USA to take the island militarily?

Could Cuba count on military support from nearby countries?

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

In Cuba The Cuban People are unarmed against the oppressive Cuban government dictatorship regime of over 61 Years and Counting. Recently I created a new nation - Greater Miami Shores 3 - I created a new Poll on my Cuba Protests Thread, you may vote if you wish? https://www.nationstates.net/region=gre ... i_shores_3

[New Rogernomics]

Can we just annex Cuba and call it a day?

No. That was what the whole Cuban missile crisis mess was triggered by. Some nations are best left to decide their own fate, even if they are repressive dictatorships, and invading every nation that is awful is what got us into the Afghanistan and Iraq mess in the first place. The opportunity to invade Cuba died with the failed bay of pigs fiasco, and best America doesn't relive it. We can hope that one day the Cuban people get rid of their repressive government, and NGOs and human rights groups should support that effort, though if a revolution is to succeed there it would have to be grassroots.

[Dekster]

Can we just annex Cuba and call it a day?

What about Cuba's self-determination? Aren't the people of Cuba capable of deciding their own fate?

[Sungoldy-China]

Cuba is not Afghanistan and has no qualify to become Afghanistan, but the potential to become Haiti is very high

[Genivaria]

In Cuba The Cuban People are unarmed against the oppressive Cuban government dictatorship regime of over 61 Years and Counting. Recently I created a new nation - Greater Miami Shores 3 - I created a new Poll on my Cuba Protests Thread, you may vote if you wish? https://www.nationstates.net/region=gre ... i_shores_3

Did you make a puppet?

[Fauzjhia]

Can we just annex Cuba and call it a day?

What about Cuba's self-determination? Aren't the people of Cuba capable of deciding their own fate?

Someone should explain why should a nation be deprived from the right to self-determination, because I can't see why.
The American used that right in 1787, and it's recognized the UN, people who claim Cuba should be invaded must explain why Cuban do not get access to right to self-determination.


For me, it would be hypocrite, to for Quebec's right to self-determination, but against Cuba's.

[Vassenor]

In Cuba The Cuban People are unarmed against the oppressive Cuban government dictatorship regime of over 61 Years and Counting. Recently I created a new nation - Greater Miami Shores 3 - I created a new Poll on my Cuba Protests Thread, you may vote if you wish? https://www.nationstates.net/region=gre ... i_shores_3

And yet we have seen more violence against anti-government protesters in Trumpist America than in Castroist Cuba.

[Cosmic79]

Can we just annex Cuba and call it a day?

What about Cuba's self-determination? Aren't the people of Cuba capable of deciding their own fate?

According to the Cuban government, no they aren't.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

What about Cuba's self-determination? Aren't the people of Cuba capable of deciding their own fate?

According to the Cuban government, no they aren't.

We still shouldn't annex Cuba.

[Proctopeo]

In Cuba The Cuban People are unarmed against the oppressive Cuban government dictatorship regime of over 61 Years and Counting. Recently I created a new nation - Greater Miami Shores 3 - I created a new Poll on my Cuba Protests Thread, you may vote if you wish? https://www.nationstates.net/region=gre ... i_shores_3

And yet we have seen more violence against anti-government protesters in Trumpist America than in Castroist Cuba.

"Cuba's dictatorship is one thing but what about Orange Man????"

It's all so tiresome. What do you have to say about the violence against anti-government protesters in Cuba?

[Vassenor]

And yet we have seen more violence against anti-government protesters in Trumpist America than in Castroist Cuba.

"Cuba's dictatorship is one thing but what about Orange Man????"

It's all so tiresome. What do you have to say about the violence against anti-government protesters in Cuba?

Sorry if it triggers you that America does more crackdowns on anti-government protestors than the evil dictatorship.

[Fauzjhia]

"Cuba's dictatorship is one thing but what about Orange Man????"

It's all so tiresome. What do you have to say about the violence against anti-government protesters in Cuba?

Sorry if it triggers you that America does more crackdowns on anti-government protestors than the evil dictatorship.

a claim without any proof, is not worth paying any attention to.
So can you back that claim?

[Vassenor]

Sorry if it triggers you that America does more crackdowns on anti-government protestors than the evil dictatorship.

a claim without any proof, is not worth paying any attention to.
So can you back that claim?

Did we not just have an entire summer of people having the shit beaten out of them, being tear gassed and having rubber bullets fired at them to the point where people have been left with life changing injuries purely because they thought that police should not be able to kill people?

[The Reformed American Republic]

Sorry if it triggers you that America does more crackdowns on anti-government protestors than the evil dictatorship.

a claim without any proof, is not worth paying any attention to.
So can you back that claim?

I doubt they can. While the U.S. isn't some utopia that always respects rights and it has significant flaws, how often does the U.S. government block access to a website because it is the site of a protest group? Not as many times as it happens in Cuba. Yes, we have GOP authoritarians that oppose free speech, but we're not quite on par with a one party state.

[Punished UMN]

a claim without any proof, is not worth paying any attention to.
So can you back that claim?

I doubt they can. While the U.S. isn't some utopia that always respects rights and it has significant flaws, how often does the U.S. government block access to a website because it is the site of a protest group? Not as many times as it happens in Cuba. Yes, we have GOP authoritarians that oppose free speech, but we're not quite on par with a one party state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p ... d_protests
It's not like violent crackdowns on protests only take place in dictatorships, at some point all governments have to either enforce their legal authority to actually use their infrastructure and territory which is occupied by protestors, or lose all credibility. That's something innate to the state, not just dictatorial ones, dictatorial ones are usually just more willing to to do so and often at smaller provocations, and more likely to use weapons more likely to result in death, but basically any country of note has some history of violently cracking down on protests. Ideas like non-aggression principles and only acting in self-defense are not elements of statecraft.

[Thermodolia]

Can we just annex Cuba and call it a day?

What a fantastic suggestion, person with a Confederate flag avatar.

Tbh everything should be America, and I mean everything

[A priori]

What a fantastic suggestion, person with a Confederate flag avatar.

Tbh everything should be America, and I mean everything

There was a party in postwar Italy which basically advocated that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Unionist_Movement

[Genivaria]

Tbh everything should be America, and I mean everything

There was a party in postwar Italy which basically advocated that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Unionist_Movement

According to the three men, the Government of the United States should annex all free and democratic nations worldwide, thereby transforming itself into a world government, and allowing Washington, D.C. to maintain Earth in a perpetual condition of peace. Paladino stated, "With a federation of the United States, Italy and some other nations, and a lot of atomic bombs, there would be no wars. This would solve all of Italy's problems."[2] Paladino argued that closer union with America was necessary to counter the advance of Communism under Soviet Russian leadership.[2]

Omg that is meme-worthy. I can't believe this is real.
Granted I do believe in global unification but this seems like...Americaboo? Is there a word for it?

[The Reformed American Republic]

I doubt they can. While the U.S. isn't some utopia that always respects rights and it has significant flaws, how often does the U.S. government block access to a website because it is the site of a protest group? Not as many times as it happens in Cuba. Yes, we have GOP authoritarians that oppose free speech, but we're not quite on par with a one party state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p ... d_protests
It's not like violent crackdowns on protests only take place in dictatorships, at some point all governments have to either enforce their legal authority to actually use their infrastructure and territory which is occupied by protestors, or lose all credibility. That's something innate to the state, not just dictatorial ones, dictatorial ones are usually just more willing to to do so and often at smaller provocations, and more likely to use weapons more likely to result in death, but basically any country of note has some history of violently cracking down on protests. Ideas like non-aggression principles and only acting in self-defense are not elements of statecraft.

I said that we have problems with excessive force. That does not disprove anything I said.

[Punished UMN]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p ... d_protests
It's not like violent crackdowns on protests only take place in dictatorships, at some point all governments have to either enforce their legal authority to actually use their infrastructure and territory which is occupied by protestors, or lose all credibility. That's something innate to the state, not just dictatorial ones, dictatorial ones are usually just more willing to to do so and often at smaller provocations, and more likely to use weapons more likely to result in death, but basically any country of note has some history of violently cracking down on protests. Ideas like non-aggression principles and only acting in self-defense are not elements of statecraft.

I said that we have problems with excessive force. That does not disprove anything I said.

Yeah, but I'm not even sure it's accurate to say that the crackdowns last year in the US are less than what is happening in Cuba, Russia, Hong Kong, or other countries which have to worry about public opinion. While you occasionally get things as violent as the Tiananmen Square incident in some dictatorships, this represents more a state of exception in national security than ordinary operating procedure towards protests or even riots, and we see similar things take place even in Western democracies like France (e.g. the Paris Commune) historically when protest movements have threatened the sovereignty of the state.

The Cuban dictatorship is pretty mild compared to a lot of them and tbh I haven't seen that much evidence of violence that is out of the ordinary there.

[Thermodolia]

Tbh everything should be America, and I mean everything

There was a party in postwar Italy which basically advocated that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Unionist_Movement

I believe you have misunderstood me. I meant everything, as in everything in existence in the universe shall be American