Christian Confederation wrote:Can we just annex Cuba and call it a day?
What a fantastic suggestion, person with a Confederate flag avatar.
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by Pasong Tirad » Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:54 pm
Christian Confederation wrote:Can we just annex Cuba and call it a day?
by Odreria » Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:22 pm
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Punished UMN wrote:Because it isn't that he was implying I'm an authoritarian, he goes around implying I'm specifically a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist, and has only done so because I disagreed with him on foreign policy regarding China and Taiwan.
I honestly didn't remember it, and that's not the reason at all. It's your seemingly sympathetic nature to certain regimes and Mao's reeducation through labor, and now you want the regime to remain in power despite the protests, regardless of popular support? How is that not at least resemble ML thought or positions. Your flags don't help either. I'm not a Republican who labels people without evidence so I feel pretty justified to at least coming to that conclusion.
You wanting the U.S. to abandon Taiwan would not be enough to come to any conclusions about your ideology. In fact, I did not even remember that discussion.
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by Picairn » Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:11 am
Christian Confederation wrote:Can we just annex Cuba and call it a day?
by Infected Mushroom » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:49 am
Christian Confederation wrote:Can we just annex Cuba and call it a day?
by Greater Miami Shores 3 » Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:01 am
by New Rogernomics » Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:07 am
No. That was what the whole Cuban missile crisis mess was triggered by. Some nations are best left to decide their own fate, even if they are repressive dictatorships, and invading every nation that is awful is what got us into the Afghanistan and Iraq mess in the first place. The opportunity to invade Cuba died with the failed bay of pigs fiasco, and best America doesn't relive it. We can hope that one day the Cuban people get rid of their repressive government, and NGOs and human rights groups should support that effort, though if a revolution is to succeed there it would have to be grassroots.Christian Confederation wrote:Can we just annex Cuba and call it a day?
by Sungoldy-China » Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:41 pm
by Genivaria » Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:46 pm
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:In Cuba The Cuban People are unarmed against the oppressive Cuban government dictatorship regime of over 61 Years and Counting. Recently I created a new nation - Greater Miami Shores 3 - I created a new Poll on my Cuba Protests Thread, you may vote if you wish? https://www.nationstates.net/region=gre ... i_shores_3
by Fauzjhia » Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:36 pm
by Vassenor » Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:34 pm
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:In Cuba The Cuban People are unarmed against the oppressive Cuban government dictatorship regime of over 61 Years and Counting. Recently I created a new nation - Greater Miami Shores 3 - I created a new Poll on my Cuba Protests Thread, you may vote if you wish? https://www.nationstates.net/region=gre ... i_shores_3
by Exalted Inquellian State » Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:29 am
by Proctopeo » Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:15 am
Vassenor wrote:Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:In Cuba The Cuban People are unarmed against the oppressive Cuban government dictatorship regime of over 61 Years and Counting. Recently I created a new nation - Greater Miami Shores 3 - I created a new Poll on my Cuba Protests Thread, you may vote if you wish? https://www.nationstates.net/region=gre ... i_shores_3
And yet we have seen more violence against anti-government protesters in Trumpist America than in Castroist Cuba.
by Vassenor » Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:27 am
Proctopeo wrote:Vassenor wrote:
And yet we have seen more violence against anti-government protesters in Trumpist America than in Castroist Cuba.
"Cuba's dictatorship is one thing but what about Orange Man????"
It's all so tiresome. What do you have to say about the violence against anti-government protesters in Cuba?
by Fauzjhia » Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:18 am
Vassenor wrote:Proctopeo wrote:"Cuba's dictatorship is one thing but what about Orange Man????"
It's all so tiresome. What do you have to say about the violence against anti-government protesters in Cuba?
Sorry if it triggers you that America does more crackdowns on anti-government protestors than the evil dictatorship.
by Vassenor » Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:55 am
by The Reformed American Republic » Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:57 am
by Punished UMN » Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:21 pm
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Fauzjhia wrote:
a claim without any proof, is not worth paying any attention to.
So can you back that claim?
I doubt they can. While the U.S. isn't some utopia that always respects rights and it has significant flaws, how often does the U.S. government block access to a website because it is the site of a protest group? Not as many times as it happens in Cuba. Yes, we have GOP authoritarians that oppose free speech, but we're not quite on par with a one party state.
by Thermodolia » Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:21 pm
by A priori » Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:29 pm
by Genivaria » Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:32 pm
A priori wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Tbh everything should be America, and I mean everything
There was a party in postwar Italy which basically advocated that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Unionist_Movement
According to the three men, the Government of the United States should annex all free and democratic nations worldwide, thereby transforming itself into a world government, and allowing Washington, D.C. to maintain Earth in a perpetual condition of peace. Paladino stated, "With a federation of the United States, Italy and some other nations, and a lot of atomic bombs, there would be no wars. This would solve all of Italy's problems."[2] Paladino argued that closer union with America was necessary to counter the advance of Communism under Soviet Russian leadership.[2]
by The Reformed American Republic » Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:33 pm
Punished UMN wrote:The Reformed American Republic wrote:I doubt they can. While the U.S. isn't some utopia that always respects rights and it has significant flaws, how often does the U.S. government block access to a website because it is the site of a protest group? Not as many times as it happens in Cuba. Yes, we have GOP authoritarians that oppose free speech, but we're not quite on par with a one party state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p ... d_protests
It's not like violent crackdowns on protests only take place in dictatorships, at some point all governments have to either enforce their legal authority to actually use their infrastructure and territory which is occupied by protestors, or lose all credibility. That's something innate to the state, not just dictatorial ones, dictatorial ones are usually just more willing to to do so and often at smaller provocations, and more likely to use weapons more likely to result in death, but basically any country of note has some history of violently cracking down on protests. Ideas like non-aggression principles and only acting in self-defense are not elements of statecraft.
by Punished UMN » Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:40 pm
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Punished UMN wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p ... d_protests
It's not like violent crackdowns on protests only take place in dictatorships, at some point all governments have to either enforce their legal authority to actually use their infrastructure and territory which is occupied by protestors, or lose all credibility. That's something innate to the state, not just dictatorial ones, dictatorial ones are usually just more willing to to do so and often at smaller provocations, and more likely to use weapons more likely to result in death, but basically any country of note has some history of violently cracking down on protests. Ideas like non-aggression principles and only acting in self-defense are not elements of statecraft.
I said that we have problems with excessive force. That does not disprove anything I said.
by Thermodolia » Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:48 pm
A priori wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Tbh everything should be America, and I mean everything
There was a party in postwar Italy which basically advocated that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Unionist_Movement
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