Black group (militia?) causing highway shutdown

[The Serbian Empire]

Moorish Sovereign Citizens or so they call themselves. I have a disdain for sov cits as they tend to make cops look like good guys when the police tend to not exactly be good.

[Wallenburg]

Black ethnonationalism is every bit as scientific, intelligent, and legitimate as the other kinds of ethnonationalism: that is, not at all. These folks are a fringe of a fringe of a fringe, and seeing as police detained them without injury all I see here is another case of gun nuts thinking it's a good idea to point their guns at police.

This is the left-right unity we all want. Do it for the memes.

What is wanted is for whites with guns to be treated the same as Blacks with guns and Blacks without guns to be treated the same as whites without guns...waiting...waiting

I don't know the details of how Massachusetts gun laws are enforced, but I do wonder whether a bunch of white men armed in a similar fashion would have been detained.

[Adamede]

Black ethnonationalism is every bit as scientific, intelligent, and legitimate as the other kinds of ethnonationalism: that is, not at all. These folks are a fringe of a fringe of a fringe, and seeing as police detained them without injury all I see here is another case of gun nuts thinking it's a good idea to point their guns at police.

What is wanted is for whites with guns to be treated the same as Blacks with guns and Blacks without guns to be treated the same as whites without guns...waiting...waiting

I don't know the details of how Massachusetts gun laws are enforced, but I do wonder whether a bunch of white men armed in a similar fashion would have been detained.

Considering it’s Mass. I doubt they would’ve been treated any better if they where white.

[Adamede]

This is the left-right unity we all want. Do it for the memes.

What is wanted is for whites with guns to be treated the same as Blacks with guns

How about no? Why not the opposite?

[The Reformed American Republic]

I don't think anyone was mistreated here. They had illegal guns, police shown up, and they surrendered. Unless you can prove they are being mistreated in custody, that will be my position on this case.

[The Two Jerseys]

Black ethnonationalism is every bit as scientific, intelligent, and legitimate as the other kinds of ethnonationalism: that is, not at all. These folks are a fringe of a fringe of a fringe, and seeing as police detained them without injury all I see here is another case of gun nuts thinking it's a good idea to point their guns at police.

I don't know the details of how Massachusetts gun laws are enforced, but I do wonder whether a bunch of white men armed in a similar fashion would have been detained.

Considering it’s Mass. I doubt they would’ve been treated any better if they where white.

Yeah, last time I checked these "liberal" northeastern states love to bust white people for not following their ridiculous draconian gun transportation laws.

[Hispida]

The Moors of North America have been branded “black” by European Colonial occupiers of our land in order to strip us of our illustrious history. Our ancient Moabite, Canaanite and Hittite blood lines tie us to the Ancient Olmecs of Central Amexem (America), the Aztecs (Mexica) even the Dogon of Mali. Our ancient ancestors are the possessors of great ancient cities and kingdoms such as Sumer, Mari, Timbuktu, Carthage, Córdoba, Mauritania (North Africa) and Tamari (Egypt / Kemet). Our disconnect from recognizing our ancient blood line, nationality and heritage is the very reason why the Pale-Skin-Black-Nations-of-Europe have been administrating the earth and we have been suffering.

[Fahran]

What is wanted is for whites with guns to be treated the same as Blacks with guns and Blacks without guns to be treated the same as whites without guns...waiting...waiting

They seem to have handled this in a manner not dissimilar to how they handle stand-offs with "white" militias. I use the quotations here because the last major stand-off with a "white" militia that I can recall involved a bunch of ranchers angry about grazing fees and the seizure of cattle by the BLM rather than an identitarian cause. Essentially, the police waited them out and then arrested the malcontents. In fact, this stand-off was more bloodless if anything.

Really, the only reason it's a political matter is because the Left ain't about white rural folks and the Right ain't about black urban folks.

[Fahran]

Black ethnonationalism is every bit as scientific, intelligent, and legitimate as the other kinds of ethnonationalism: that is, not at all. These folks are a fringe of a fringe of a fringe, and seeing as police detained them without injury all I see here is another case of gun nuts thinking it's a good idea to point their guns at police.

Given the pervasive anti-police sentiments at the moment, is this really altogether surprising?

And ethnonationalism, while not presently in favor, has been the pursuit of intelligent politicians and activists in the past and present, and has been legitimate in so far as international law can be legitimate. We literally have UN Resolutions that ostensibly support ethnonationalism. If not explicitly, then implicitly.

[Fahran]

Moorish Sovereign Citizens or so they call themselves. I have a disdain for sov cits as they tend to make cops look like good guys when the police tend to not exactly be good.

If the police are not good, perhaps that's indicative of the fact that the state they defend is not good.

[Genivaria]

Moorish Sovereign Citizens or so they call themselves. I have a disdain for sov cits as they tend to make cops look like good guys when the police tend to not exactly be good.

If the police are not good, perhaps that's indicative of the fact that the state they defend is not good.

It generally isn't no.

[Postauthoritarian America]

What is wanted is for whites with guns to be treated the same as Blacks with guns and Blacks without guns to be treated the same as whites without guns...waiting...waiting

They seem to have handled this in a manner not dissimilar to how they handle stand-offs with "white" militias. I use the quotations here because the last major stand-off with a "white" militia that I can recall involved a bunch of ranchers angry about grazing fees and the seizure of cattle by the BLM rather than an identitarian cause. Essentially, the police waited them out and then arrested the malcontents. In fact, this stand-off was more bloodless if anything.

Really, the only reason it's a political matter is because the Left ain't about white rural folks and the Right ain't about black urban folks.

"Not dissimilar?" Not dissimilar like this? Please.

[Fahran]

"Not dissimilar?" Not dissimilar like this? Please.

So a mostly peaceful protest where the police checked people's temperatures at the door? Really, this sounds a lot like how pro-life protestors stormed the capitol in Austin a few years back with the sole exception that the militias are scary men with guns. Police never lost control of the situation. Calling it a "dress rehearsal" for an illegal storming or bringing up illegal activities, that often had surveillance and infiltration from the feds very early on in the planning process, is a bit much.

Do you want them to shoot white militias like they did the OG Black Panthers? Or do you think employing a similar policy to what they did with the Moorish sov cits this time around is a better approach?

[Fahran]

It generally isn't no.

Ergo we need the based Moors of North America and Boogaloo Bois to seize the means of production. /s

[Hatinga Help Department]

In America we all have rights so we have the right to have free speech!

[Fahran]

In America we all have rights so we have the right to have free speech!

Well, yes. Things do get a bit fuzzy when you commit crimes while pursuing your right to speech and expression as happened in this case and in the case of the January 6th protests. One does wonder, at times, why the police handle some of these stand-offs so poorly when the occurrence of infiltration among militias, especially white supremacist militias, is almost meme-tier.

We know that one serious issue is a lack of communication and coordination with local law enforcement, who are often unwilling to properly address militias and white nationalist cells. I imagine bureaucratic gridlock and rivalries are a significant cause at present. There's not really a good excuse in DC where federal bodies are more involved though. Unless the FBI just dropped the ball and didn't know it was coming. Somehow.

[Fahran]

they were already arrested
it's in the second article in the OP
this incident ended already
hell, the highwayis already open again

And, like that, half the meme potential has drained from the situation. I wanted a hastily jotted-down list of demands, half legitimate, half silly. And lots of based rhetoric about how the pale-skin African nations have been keeping the based Moors suppressed for centuries by obscuring their heritage, especially their connections to Kemet. Heck, Yakub, the big-brain scientist, might even have moonlighted in the narrative.

[J o J]

I believe they where arrested for not following state gun transportation laws.

Good. Gun safety is important!

[Dylar]

I don't think anyone was mistreated here. They had illegal guns, police shown up, and they surrendered. Unless you can prove they are being mistreated in custody, that will be my position on this case.

The guns they had were not illegal. Both articles state that the armed men were carrying rifles, and the only rifles that were identified were 3 AR-15s. And after taking a look at Massachusetts gun laws, ARs are legal to own, but the owner needs to possess a License to Carry in order to purchase and own what the state of Massachusetts calls an "assault weapon"

[Fahran]

I believe they where arrested for not following state gun transportation laws.

Good. Gun safety is important!

Eh, I feel like actively resisting arrest and causing a stand-off is a good deal worse than failing to observe arbitrary gun laws that probably don't do a whole lot to keep people safe.

[Kowani]

they were already arrested
it's in the second article in the OP
this incident ended already
hell, the highwayis already open again

And, like that, half the meme potential has drained from the situation. I wanted a hastily jotted-down list of demands, half legitimate, half silly. And lots of based rhetoric about how the pale-skin African nations have been keeping the based Moors suppressed for centuries by obscuring their heritage, especially their connections to Kemet. Heck, Yakub, the big-brain scientist, might even have moonlighted in the narrative.

ironically, WF Muhammad was a member of the Rise of the Moors until he was kicked out
or so they claim
i'm not diving down that rabbit hole

[Ayytaly]

Black ethnonationalism is every bit as scientific, intelligent, and legitimate as the other kinds of ethnonationalism: that is, not at all. These folks are a fringe of a fringe of a fringe, and seeing as police detained them without injury all I see here is another case of gun nuts thinking it's a good idea to point their guns at police.

Given the pervasive anti-police sentiments at the moment, is this really altogether surprising?

And ethnonationalism, while not presently in favor, has been the pursuit of intelligent politicians and activists in the past and present, and has been legitimate in so far as international law can be legitimate. We literally have UN Resolutions that ostensibly support ethnonationalism. If not explicitly, then implicitly.

*cough*Israel*cough*

[Fahran]

*cough*Israel*cough*

Or Palestine for that matter. And we could go on.

It generally isn't no.

As far as states go, most people do way, way worse. We can, of course, always strive to do better, but we should probably keep that in perspective. I feel like a lot of the states/societies the militias and anarkiddies dream up, while spicy, could open the door to a good many policies that aren't exactly, how do the youth these days say, cash-money.

[Postauthoritarian America]

"Not dissimilar?" Not dissimilar like this? Please.

So a mostly peaceful protest where the police checked people's temperatures at the door? Really, this sounds a lot like how pro-life protestors stormed the capitol in Austin a few years back with the sole exception that the militias are scary men with guns. Police never lost control of the situation. Calling it a "dress rehearsal" for an illegal storming or bringing up illegal activities, that often had surveillance and infiltration from the feds very early on in the planning process, is a bit much.

Do you want them to shoot white militias like they did the OG Black Panthers? Or do you think employing a similar policy to what they did with the Moorish sov cits this time around is a better approach?

I want armed "militias" to be kept far away from the legislative, executive and judicial branches of government at all levels. Any "sovereign citizens," Moorish, Caucasian or Red Lectroid, who want to go play soldiers in the Maine woods is no skin off my nose.

Oh and a couple of those "scary men with guns" were arrested for plotting to kidnap the Michigan Governor, remember?

[Suriyanakhon]

The Moors of North America have been branded “black” by European Colonial occupiers of our land in order to strip us of our illustrious history. Our ancient Moabite, Canaanite and Hittite blood lines tie us to the Ancient Olmecs of Central Amexem (America), the Aztecs (Mexica) even the Dogon of Mali. Our ancient ancestors are the possessors of great ancient cities and kingdoms such as Sumer, Mari, Timbuktu, Carthage, Córdoba, Mauritania (North Africa) and Tamari (Egypt / Kemet). Our disconnect from recognizing our ancient blood line, nationality and heritage is the very reason why the Pale-Skin-Black-Nations-of-Europe have been administrating the earth and we have been suffering.

This is pretty much your typical black supremacist mumbo jumbo.