Future of religion

[Conservative Republic Of Huang]

and so a religion of science will arise.

@Endem

It already has; it's called Scientism.

In today's society, going against the dogmas of Big Bang Theory, Climate Change, and Evolutionism, is paramount to heresy, and results in excommunication from the body scientific.

Sounds a lot like a religion of science to me. I am not a member of this false belief system, and proudly so!

The difference being that religion is based on faith, while science is based on empiricism. Choosing to believe that some Roman 2000 years ago was magic is a matter of faith: believing without empirical evidence. Evolution, the Big Bang and climate change are empirically supported. Not having faith is an equally valid choice as having faith. Not believing in empiricism makes a person dumb. Stop with the false equivalency and go back to whatever century you came from.

[Tarsonis]

That awkward moment when you're a devout catholic and follower of science....

[GuessTheAltAccount]

That awkward moment when you're a devout catholic and follower of science....

The Catholic church's claims have been proven wrong by science several times. Either "God" doesn't exist, or "God" was full of shit, or most likely, the Catholic church was full of shit in claiming to speak for "God". Given the Catholic church's track record, why should you expect the Catholic church to ever be anything other than "full of shit" about anything?

[Tarsonis]

That awkward moment when you're a devout catholic and follower of science....

The Catholic church's claims have been proven wrong by science several times. Either "God" doesn't exist, or "God" was full of shit, or most likely, the Catholic church was full of shit in claiming to speak for "God". Given the Catholic church's track record, why should you expect the Catholic church to ever be anything other than "full of shit" about anything?

Self righteous dawkenites have done more to keep me on the straight and narrow than the Church ever did. so cheers.

[GuessTheAltAccount]

The Catholic church's claims have been proven wrong by science several times. Either "God" doesn't exist, or "God" was full of shit, or most likely, the Catholic church was full of shit in claiming to speak for "God". Given the Catholic church's track record, why should you expect the Catholic church to ever be anything other than "full of shit" about anything?

Self righteous dawkenites have done more to keep me on the straight and narrow than the Church ever did. so cheers.

One side is self-righteous, about their lack of involvement in a church whose opposition to stem cell research has gotten people killed. The other side is both self-righteous; about pettier things; (their condenmation of porn and masturbation comes to mind) AND completely full of shit about everything. Who sounds more reasonable to side with to you?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Self righteous dawkenites have done more to keep me on the straight and narrow than the Church ever did. so cheers.

One side is self-righteous, about their lack of involvement in a church whose opposition to stem cell research has gotten people killed. The other side is both self-righteous; about pettier things; (their condenmation of porn and masturbation comes to mind) AND completely full of shit about everything. Who sounds more reasonable to side with to you?

There's a fairly long list of secular reasons to be opposed to porn too though.

[Tarsonis]

Self righteous dawkenites have done more to keep me on the straight and narrow than the Church ever did. so cheers.

One side is self-righteous, about their lack of involvement in a church whose opposition to stem cell research has gotten people killed. The other side is both self-righteous; about pettier things; (their condenmation of porn and masturbation comes to mind) AND completely full of shit about everything. Who sounds more reasonable to side with to you?

Both sound more reasonable than you right now. You've done nothing but prove I should consider you the sake as those guys who made that Ark experience out in Kentucky.
Seriously, is this song and dance supposed to be convincing?

[GuessTheAltAccount]

One side is self-righteous, about their lack of involvement in a church whose opposition to stem cell research has gotten people killed. The other side is both self-righteous; about pettier things; (their condenmation of porn and masturbation comes to mind) AND completely full of shit about everything. Who sounds more reasonable to side with to you?

There's a fairly long list of secular reasons to be opposed to porn too though.

Eh, definitely none as persuasive to as many secular people as "it's wrong because God says so and you're going to burn in hell forever if you doubt him" is to religious people.

Or certainly not enough to condemn it as being for heathen hellbound sinners. Even radical feminist condemnations of porn, misguided as they are, at least come with a (marginally) more sympathetic tone for its users.

[GuessTheAltAccount]

One side is self-righteous, about their lack of involvement in a church whose opposition to stem cell research has gotten people killed. The other side is both self-righteous; about pettier things; (their condenmation of porn and masturbation comes to mind) AND completely full of shit about everything. Who sounds more reasonable to side with to you?

Both sound more reasonable than you right now. You've done nothing but prove I should consider you the sake as those guys who made that Ark experience out in Kentucky.
Seriously, is this song and dance supposed to be convincing?

Well, I've reminded you that you're lumping yourself in with a church that has been wrong about everything. Which would almost make sense if you pretended it's instead science that has been wrong about everything. But you don't. You try to reconcile science with the church whose claims have a pattern of being disproven by science. Why should you trust anything that comes from them?

[Tarsonis]

Both sound more reasonable than you right now. You've done nothing but prove I should consider you the sake as those guys who made that Ark experience out in Kentucky.
Seriously, is this song and dance supposed to be convincing?

Well, I've reminded you that you're lumping yourself in with a church that has been wrong about everything. Which would almost make sense if you pretended it's instead science that has been wrong about everything. But you don't. You try to reconcile science with the church whose claims have a pattern of being disproven by science. Why should you trust anything that comes from them?

Actually you haven't, what you've shown me is that literally nothing you say can be taken at face value. You've effectively demonstrated that your position is not rooted in intellectualism or deductive reasoning, but bigotry and a deep seated hatred for religious people. So when comparing you vs them, they're a more reliable source, even with their history of getting some things wrong.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

The future of religion will turn to agnosticism, because the thought that best fits the human mind is weak agnosticism.

[Tarsonis]

The future of religion will turn to agnosticism, because the thought that best fits the human mind is weak agnosticism.

How so?

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

The future of religion will turn to agnosticism, because the thought that best fits the human mind is weak agnosticism.

How so?

If, after death, a being comes to us and says I am a god, we weak agnostics will not see this being as a god. because the human mind is always inclined to think about the next. If you increase the education system of the people and a society with realistic self-confidence is created, the future of religion will be weak agnosticism.

[Cameroi]

people have a problem conflating "religion" with "their religion".
whatever gods there are, and the unknown being unknown doesn't prevent the existence of anything,
owe equally nothing to any of them.

[Tarsonis]

How so?

If, after death, a being comes to us and says I am a god, we weak agnostics will not see this being as a god. because the human mind is always inclined to think about the next. If you increase the education system of the people and a society with realistic self-confidence is created, the future of religion will be weak agnosticism.

Interesting idea but I think you're buying a little too much into the fallacy that education necessarily cancels out religious belief.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

If, after death, a being comes to us and says I am a god, we weak agnostics will not see this being as a god. because the human mind is always inclined to think about the next. If you increase the education system of the people and a society with realistic self-confidence is created, the future of religion will be weak agnosticism.

Interesting idea but I think you're buying a little too much into the fallacy that education necessarily cancels out religious belief.

First of all, I would like to say that the reason for the existence of religion is because we do not know what happens after death. It is inevitable that this will happen if the education system is organized in a liberal and human-minded manner. The thinking of theists or atheists does not fit the thinking of humanity. Being theist and atheist will be seen as strange after a while and they will remain as a minority.

[Chess Guys]

Yes, Alhamdulilah, Islam will dominate the planet. This I am sure of because it's a promise from Allah عز و جل

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

Yes, Alhamdulilah, Islam will dominate the planet. This I am sure of because it's a promise from Allah عز و جل

What happened to Zeus ?

[Chess Guys]

Sic semper taghut

[Washington Resistance Army]

Yes, Alhamdulilah, Islam will dominate the planet. This I am sure of because it's a promise from Allah عز و جل

What happened to Zeus ?

There's a pretty rapidly growing number of people that follow Greco-Roman religion. Even putting aside my own personal beliefs it's a pretty fascinating subject that's playing out in many places across the globe.

[The Black Forrest]

Pray to Crom!

[Chess Guys]

Do they believe it, or is more like ReFaire but for antiquity?

[The Black Forrest]

What happened to Zeus ?

There's a pretty rapidly growing number of people that follow Greco-Roman religion. Even putting aside my own personal beliefs it's a pretty fascinating subject that's playing out in many places across the globe.

They believe in Zeus or Jupiter?

[Chess Guys]

RenFaire*

[The Black Forrest]

RenFaire*

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