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American Politics Thread VI: Can't We All Just Get Along?

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Is it no longer possible to collaborate with political opponents at this stage?

It is no longer possible.
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It is possible.
166
25%
Collaboration is possible if we have similar economic views.
47
7%
Collaboration is possible if we have similar cultural/social views.
106
16%
Why would I collaborate with anyone? Going monke is the best way forward.
102
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Total votes : 653

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Dillemba
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Postby Dillemba » Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:53 am

Dillemba wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1407811027379621890

Biden says that American citizens need, uh, fighter jets and nuclear weapons to take on the government

"If you wanna...well ya know....the blood of patriots... freedom wasnt won by the blood of Patriots"

Can't believe people voted for this guy.

This after Biden accused 300 random citizens without military-grade ballistic weapons and fighter jets of trying to overthrow the government.

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Postby Kowani » Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:58 am

Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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Dillemba
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Postby Dillemba » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:00 am

Kowani wrote:
Dillemba wrote:Can't believe this is even a headline.

...why?

It's messed up that so many children died in those schools. It never should have happened. It's also a headline you never expect to see.
Last edited by Dillemba on Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:03 am, edited 2 times in total.

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Lady Victory
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Postby Lady Victory » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:04 am

Dillemba wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1407811027379621890

Biden says that American citizens need, uh, fighter jets and nuclear weapons to take on the government

"If you wanna...well ya know....the blood of patriots... freedom wasnt won by the blood of Patriots"

Can't believe people voted for this guy.


Sorry, were we supposed to vote for the pedophile caudillo who thinks windmills cause cancer?
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Postby Dillemba » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:08 am

Lady Victory wrote:
Dillemba wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1407811027379621890

Biden says that American citizens need, uh, fighter jets and nuclear weapons to take on the government

"If you wanna...well ya know....the blood of patriots... freedom wasnt won by the blood of Patriots"

Can't believe people voted for this guy.


Sorry, were we supposed to vote for the pedophile caudillo who thinks windmills cause cancer?

Joe Biden is also a pedophile, he was caught on video inappropriately touching young girls (and this isn't really a comfortable subject for me, I'd appreciate if we didn't talk about that), Joe Biden vigorously supported the War in Libya and thought America was fully in the right and also supported the Iraq War

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Exalted Inquellian State
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:09 am

Lady Victory wrote:
Dillemba wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1407811027379621890

Biden says that American citizens need, uh, fighter jets and nuclear weapons to take on the government

"If you wanna...well ya know....the blood of patriots... freedom wasnt won by the blood of Patriots"

Can't believe people voted for this guy.


Sorry, were we supposed to vote for the pedophile caudillo who thinks windmills cause cancer?

Wait, I saw your sig thinking it was Dillemba's. What happened to Atheris?
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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:10 am

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
Sorry, were we supposed to vote for the pedophile caudillo who thinks windmills cause cancer?

Wait, I saw your sig thinking it was Dillemba's. What happened to Atheris?

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Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Lady Victory
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Postby Lady Victory » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:11 am

Dillemba wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
Sorry, were we supposed to vote for the pedophile caudillo who thinks windmills cause cancer?

Joe Biden is also a pedophile, he was caught on video inappropriately touching young girls (and this isn't really a comfortable subject for me, I'd appreciate if we didn't talk about that), Joe Biden vigorously supported the War in Libya and thought America was fully in the right and also supported the Iraq War


Biden has done many bad things, yes.

Trump has done many worse things.

This isn't rocket science.
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:22 am

Dillemba wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
Sorry, were we supposed to vote for the pedophile caudillo who thinks windmills cause cancer?

Joe Biden is also a pedophile, he was caught on video inappropriately touching young girls (and this isn't really a comfortable subject for me, I'd appreciate if we didn't talk about that), Joe Biden vigorously supported the War in Libya and thought America was fully in the right and also supported the Iraq War

Biden isn't perfect (far from it, I hate neoliberals), but Trump rejects the fundamental philosophies of democracy.
Pro: Direct democracy, e-democracy, parliamentary sovereignty, state secularism, non-violent direct action (striking), police reform, syndicalism, democratic workplace management
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Postby The Holy Therns » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:23 am

Picairn wrote:New York Suspends Giuliani’s Law License
A New York appellate court suspended Rudolph W. Giuliani’s law license on Thursday after a disciplinary panel found that he made “demonstrably false and misleading” statements about the 2020 election as Donald J. Trump’s personal attorney.

The court wrote in a 33-page decision that Mr. Giuliani’s conduct threatened “the public interest and warrants interim suspension from the practice of law.”

Mr. Giuliani helped lead Mr. Trump’s legal challenge to the election results, arguing without merit that the vote had been rife with fraud and that voting machines had been rigged.

“We conclude that there is uncontroverted evidence that respondent communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump’s failed effort at reelection in 2020,” the decision read.

A lawyer for Mr. Giuliani could not be immediately reached for comment.

Mr. Giuliani, who was admitted to the state bar in New York in 1969, once had a prominent legal career. He worked in the Justice Department during the Reagan administration, and was named the United States Attorney in Manhattan in 1983.

He was mayor of New York City for eight years, rising to national prominence as he steered the city through the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

:lol2: Say bye bye to your law career, Giuliani!


He's 77, how much more law would he have practiced anyway?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:25 am

Lady Victory wrote:
Dillemba wrote:Joe Biden is also a pedophile, he was caught on video inappropriately touching young girls (and this isn't really a comfortable subject for me, I'd appreciate if we didn't talk about that), Joe Biden vigorously supported the War in Libya and thought America was fully in the right and also supported the Iraq War


Biden has done many bad things, yes.

Trump has done many worse things.

This isn't rocket science.


I actually really don't think that's true when you consider how long Biden has been in politics. Like, his actions have negatively impacted a huge amount of people for many decades. Trump sucked, and pretty directly got a couple hundred thousand Americans killed, but that's rookie numbers all things it considers when it comes to American bodycounts.
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Conservative Republic Of Huang
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:26 am

San Lumen wrote:
It’s not un Democratic it’s the truth.

Define "democracy," not in terms of the system by which it is implemented, but as a political theory.
Pro: Direct democracy, e-democracy, parliamentary sovereignty, state secularism, non-violent direct action (striking), police reform, syndicalism, democratic workplace management
Anti: Most types of representative democracy, ultra-nationalism, imperialism, autocratic workplace management, the state

"In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say syndicalism now, syndicalism tomorrow, syndicalism forever."
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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:31 am

Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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The Jamesian Republic
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:35 am

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:
Dillemba wrote:Joe Biden is also a pedophile, he was caught on video inappropriately touching young girls (and this isn't really a comfortable subject for me, I'd appreciate if we didn't talk about that), Joe Biden vigorously supported the War in Libya and thought America was fully in the right and also supported the Iraq War

Biden isn't perfect (far from it, I hate neoliberals), but Trump rejects the fundamental philosophies of democracy.


As much as I got a comfortable feeling from him, I don’t think he is a saint either. I am fully aware about what scandals and corruption he has been involved in.

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Dillemba
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Postby Dillemba » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:37 am

Lady Victory wrote:
Dillemba wrote:Joe Biden is also a pedophile, he was caught on video inappropriately touching young girls (and this isn't really a comfortable subject for me, I'd appreciate if we didn't talk about that), Joe Biden vigorously supported the War in Libya and thought America was fully in the right and also supported the Iraq War


Biden has done many bad things, yes.

Trump has done many worse things.

This isn't rocket science.

How so? Joe Biden backed the destabilization of at least three countries, made America have the biggest incarceration rate in the world, opposed school intergration efforts, and spoke at Storm Thurmond's funeral.

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Conservative Republic Of Huang
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:42 am

Dillemba wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
Biden has done many bad things, yes.

Trump has done many worse things.

This isn't rocket science.

How so? Joe Biden backed the destabilization of at least three countries, made America have the biggest incarceration rate in the world, opposed school intergration efforts, and spoke at Storm Thurmond's funeral.

As opposed to Trump, who has established a cult of personality, is responsible for untold numbers of excess Covid deaths, has spurred on the rise of far-right extremism and has taken a hammer to institutions and put the country on the path to inevitable demise.
Pro: Direct democracy, e-democracy, parliamentary sovereignty, state secularism, non-violent direct action (striking), police reform, syndicalism, democratic workplace management
Anti: Most types of representative democracy, ultra-nationalism, imperialism, autocratic workplace management, the state

"In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say syndicalism now, syndicalism tomorrow, syndicalism forever."
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:43 am

https://thehill.com/changing-america/en ... faculty-be

Florida Gov signs law requiring students, faculty be asked to declare their political beliefs.

I don’t see how this is constitutional.

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Dillemba
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Postby Dillemba » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:45 am

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:
Dillemba wrote:How so? Joe Biden backed the destabilization of at least three countries, made America have the biggest incarceration rate in the world, opposed school intergration efforts, and spoke at Storm Thurmond's funeral.

As opposed to Trump, who has established a cult of personality, is responsible for untold numbers of excess Covid deaths, has spurred on the rise of far-right extremism and has taken a hammer to institutions and put the country on the path to inevitable demise.

Trump's cult of personality is rapidly fading. Qanon is fading. People are slowly forgetting/losing faith in Trump.

Trump is not responsible for COVID deaths, China and incompetent American state governments are.

Increased far-right extremism is caused by the country becoming more leftist. If the country becomes more right-wing, far-left extremism would increase.

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Dillemba
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Postby Dillemba » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:46 am

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/559881-florida-gov-signs-law-requiring-students-and-faculty-be

Florida Gov signs law requiring students, faculty be asked to declare their political beliefs.

I don’t see how this is constitutional.

It isn't. Another example of Democrats and Republicans working to erode the rights of Americans. Society slowly becomes more and more totalitarian.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:46 am

Dillemba wrote:Increased far-right extremism is caused by the country becoming more leftist. If the country becomes more right-wing, far-left extremism would increase.


This is very decidedly not true and shows a lack of understanding at what caused left wing terrorism in the first place and why it died off.
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:47 am

Dillemba wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/559881-florida-gov-signs-law-requiring-students-and-faculty-be

Florida Gov signs law requiring students, faculty be asked to declare their political beliefs.

I don’t see how this is constitutional.

It isn't. Another example of Democrats and Republicans working to erode the rights of Americans. Society slowly becomes more and more totalitarian.

It’s more than likely going to be struck down in court.

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Dillemba
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Postby Dillemba » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:48 am

San Lumen wrote:
Dillemba wrote:It isn't. Another example of Democrats and Republicans working to erode the rights of Americans. Society slowly becomes more and more totalitarian.

It’s more than likely going to be struck down in court.

I hope so- but hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

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Conservative Republic Of Huang
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:56 am

Dillemba wrote:
Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:As opposed to Trump, who has established a cult of personality, is responsible for untold numbers of excess Covid deaths, has spurred on the rise of far-right extremism and has taken a hammer to institutions and put the country on the path to inevitable demise.

Trump's cult of personality is rapidly fading. Qanon is fading. People are slowly forgetting/losing faith in Trump.

Trump is not responsible for COVID deaths, China and incompetent American state governments are.

Increased far-right extremism is caused by the country becoming more leftist. If the country becomes more right-wing, far-left extremism would increase.

The Trumpist movement is weakened, but will still remain a threat for the foreseeable future.

As for Covid, imma go ahead and say refusing to do a national mask mandate and consistently undermining public trust in scientists and downplaying the situation for political advantage is not helpful.

The far-right movement has existed well before the progressive movement. Of course, the progressive movement is not actually far-left, so we rarely see actual terrorist acts by the far-left.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:01 pm

Dillemba wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1407811027379621890

Biden says that American citizens need, uh, fighter jets and nuclear weapons to take on the government

"If you wanna...well ya know....the blood of patriots... freedom wasnt won by the blood of Patriots"

Can't believe people voted for this guy.


Nice way to open with a click-bait type comment and a slow joe reference? Boring.
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Postby Jolthig » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:10 pm

Dillemba wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1407811027379621890

Biden says that American citizens need, uh, fighter jets and nuclear weapons to take on the government

"If you wanna...well ya know....the blood of patriots... freedom wasnt won by the blood of Patriots"

Can't believe people voted for this guy.

(Without reading the link, yet), Biden always speaks slowly. It's just his style of speaking.

He's still more of a competent president than Trump was, in my humble opinion.
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