American Politics Thread VI: Can't We All Just Get Along?

[Kowani]

yeah, that would do it...

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also, Rhode Island has black history curriculum now!

I'm surprised that came just now.

you're not american, are you

[Gim]

I'm surprised that came just now.

you're not american, are you

I'm Canadian.

[Kowani]

New Trumpworld social media app GETTR: bankrolled by fugitive Chinese billionaire and buddy of Steve Bannon; plagued by email scraping and Sonic the Hedgehog porn

in a lateral move, it is now an isis propaganda hotspot

[Ifreann]

I can't follow the pointing fingers anymore lol, I've heard Biden can do it but the White House says he can't, Congress has to. Pelosi said the CDC could do it, Biden says they can't. Pelosi also said she fought for months to get the extension while also saying she didn't know about it expiring until a few days ago lol

That's the point where you must ask who has something to gain from not allowing the extension.

Probably something to do with the White House advisers from BlackRock, an investment management giant that's looking to start hoovering up properties, or maybe Paul Pelosi, the real estate investor who I think is married to someone in Congress.

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New Trumpworld social media app GETTR: bankrolled by fugitive Chinese billionaire and buddy of Steve Bannon; plagued by email scraping and Sonic the Hedgehog porn

in a lateral move, it is now an isis propaganda hotspot

Free speech!

[Kerwa]

Probably something to do with the White House advisers from BlackRock, an investment management giant that's looking to start hoovering up properties, or maybe Paul Pelosi, the real estate investor who I think is married to someone in Congress.

Blackrock and the like have already hoovered. They increased their purchases of single family homes tenfold this year. I haven’t really checked but I’d guess that a fair number of them were from distressed small landlords hit by the eviction moratorium. So it’s a big win for institutional money. (Higher rents plus back rent).

[Tarsonis]

Sihanouk let the VC and PAVN set up military bases in Cambodia which they used to circumvent the American lines and launch offensives into South Vietnam, most notably the Tet Offensive.

So, he brought that shit on himself.

are you fucking kidding me

No. I'm not saying the Vietnam War was Kosher by any stretch, but allowing one side in war to use your territory as a strategic launching point to attack the other side, that invalidates any claim to neutrality in my book. If hypothetically say Brazil and Russia got into a war, and we allowed Brazil to launch bombers and excursions into Russia from Alaska, the Russians would be justified in considering that an act of war and invading our snowy state to the North.

Mitt winning however might have stemmed the tide of the American TalibanTea Party poisoning the GOP.

lmao nope
2008 was the breaking point for modern racial salience and prob the endpoint of partisan sorting (don't quote me on that last one i'd have to doublecheck downballot results but i'd be willing to bet on it)

That wasn't really my point, as I said elsewhere, just more that if Mitt won in 2012, I don't think Trump gets elected in 2016 or at all really.

[The Jamesian Republic]

If Mitt Romney got elected in 2012 and maybe 2016 this does lead into a possibility that Trump could run in 2020.

[Tarsonis]

If Mitt Romney got elected in 2012 and maybe 2016 this does lead into a possibility that Trump could run in 2020.

I doubt it but this is all speculative. Trump might have even tried a 2016 run as a Democrat

[San Lumen]

https://abc7ny.com/governor-cuomo-inves ... /10927185/

Gov. Cuomo harassed women, tried to retaliate against accuser, attorney general finds

[The Reformed American Republic]

https://abc7ny.com/governor-cuomo-investigation-sexual-harassment-scandal/10927185/

Gov. Cuomo harassed women, tried to retaliate against accuser, attorney general finds

This is the man who was no doubt being groomed to be president in the future by the media.

[The Jamesian Republic]

https://abc7ny.com/governor-cuomo-investigation-sexual-harassment-scandal/10927185/

Gov. Cuomo harassed women, tried to retaliate against accuser, attorney general finds

You know I actually liked Andrew Cuomo but with all that has come out that has changed.

[Kowani]

https://abc7ny.com/governor-cuomo-investigation-sexual-harassment-scandal/10927185/

Gov. Cuomo harassed women, tried to retaliate against accuser, attorney general finds

Assemblymember Yuh-Line Niou (D) already has the impeachment articles ready to go

[Shrillland]

Today is byprimary day in Ohio's two empty House seats, and Nina Turner is now being attacked for supporting Jill Stein in 2016

[Duvniask]

That's the point where you must ask who has something to gain from not allowing the extension.

Probably something to do with the White House advisers from BlackRock, an investment management giant that's looking to start hoovering up properties, or maybe Paul Pelosi, the real estate investor who I think is married to someone in Congress.

Well, let's just say that I totally buy that this is the real reason.

[San Lumen]

https://assembly.state.ny.us/Press/?sec ... tory=98377

New York assembly speaker Carl Heastie: The findings contained in the report are disturbing. The details provided by the victims are gut-wrenching... The conduct by the Governor outlined in this report would indicate someone who is not fit for office.”

https://www.nysenate.gov/newsroom/press ... stewart-36

State senate majority leader Andrea Stewart Cousins has called on Cuomo to resign.

[Thermodolia]

Soviet invasion? Those guys only went down as far as the North Korean border in the middle of Korean peninsula.

Still, it started a two-front war, which was unsustainable for Japan.

From above:

But the Soviet Union’s entry into the war on Aug. 8 changed everything for Japan’s leaders, who privately acknowledged the need to surrender promptly.

Allied intelligence had been reporting for months that Soviet entry would force the Japanese to capitulate. As early as April 11, 1945, the Joint Chiefs of Staff’s Joint Intelligence Staff had predicted: “If at any time the USSR should enter the war, all Japanese will realize that absolute defeat is inevitable.”

Truman also knew that the Soviet invasion would knock Japan out of the war. At the summit in Potsdam, Germany, on July 17, following Stalin’s assurance that the Soviets were coming in on schedule, Truman wrote in his diary, “He’ll be in the Jap War on August 15. Fini Japs when that comes about.” The next day, he assured his wife, “We’ll end the war a year sooner now, and think of the kids who won’t be killed!”

The Soviets invaded Japanese-held Manchuria at midnight on Aug. 8 and quickly destroyed the vaunted Kwantung Army. As predicted, the attack traumatized Japan’s leaders. They could not fight a two-front war, and the threat of a communist takeover of Japanese territory was their worst nightmare.

Prime Minister Kantaro Suzuki explained on Aug. 13 that Japan had to surrender quickly because “the Soviet Union will take not only Manchuria, Korea, Karafuto, but also Hokkaido. This would destroy the foundation of Japan. We must end the war when we can deal with the United States.”

And yet the Japanese military attempted to overthrow the Emperor just hours before the announced surrender that wasn’t a much of surrender announcement.

[Kowani]

are you fucking kidding me

No. I'm not saying the Vietnam War was Kosher by any stretch, but allowing one side in war to use your territory as a strategic launching point to attack the other side, that invalidates any claim to neutrality in my book. If hypothetically say Brazil and Russia got into a war, and we allowed Brazil to launch bombers and excursions into Russia from Alaska, the Russians would be justified in considering that an act of war and invading our snowy state to the North.

would russia be justified in indiscriminately bombing nyc

[Exalted Inquellian State]

Still, it started a two-front war, which was unsustainable for Japan.

From above:

But the Soviet Union’s entry into the war on Aug. 8 changed everything for Japan’s leaders, who privately acknowledged the need to surrender promptly.

Allied intelligence had been reporting for months that Soviet entry would force the Japanese to capitulate. As early as April 11, 1945, the Joint Chiefs of Staff’s Joint Intelligence Staff had predicted: “If at any time the USSR should enter the war, all Japanese will realize that absolute defeat is inevitable.”

Truman also knew that the Soviet invasion would knock Japan out of the war. At the summit in Potsdam, Germany, on July 17, following Stalin’s assurance that the Soviets were coming in on schedule, Truman wrote in his diary, “He’ll be in the Jap War on August 15. Fini Japs when that comes about.” The next day, he assured his wife, “We’ll end the war a year sooner now, and think of the kids who won’t be killed!”

The Soviets invaded Japanese-held Manchuria at midnight on Aug. 8 and quickly destroyed the vaunted Kwantung Army. As predicted, the attack traumatized Japan’s leaders. They could not fight a two-front war, and the threat of a communist takeover of Japanese territory was their worst nightmare.

Prime Minister Kantaro Suzuki explained on Aug. 13 that Japan had to surrender quickly because “the Soviet Union will take not only Manchuria, Korea, Karafuto, but also Hokkaido. This would destroy the foundation of Japan. We must end the war when we can deal with the United States.”

And yet the Japanese military attempted to overthrow the Emperor just hours before the announced surrender that wasn’t a much of surrender announcement.

The overthrow was a bunch of officers that were rejected by everyone around them. And even if Japan didn't surrender, they would be blockaded after their last Asian and Pacific holdings fell to the Soviets, Chinese, and European forces. By that point, the leadership would either surrender to try and save itself, or be toppled in a socialist revolution by angry Japanese people they had started giving weapons to in order to defend Japan.

[Esthe]

New Trumpworld social media app GETTR: bankrolled by fugitive Chinese billionaire and buddy of Steve Bannon; plagued by email scraping and Sonic the Hedgehog porn

in a lateral move, it is now an isis propaganda hotspot

I find this oddly hilarious.

[Washington Resistance Army]

No. I'm not saying the Vietnam War was Kosher by any stretch, but allowing one side in war to use your territory as a strategic launching point to attack the other side, that invalidates any claim to neutrality in my book. If hypothetically say Brazil and Russia got into a war, and we allowed Brazil to launch bombers and excursions into Russia from Alaska, the Russians would be justified in considering that an act of war and invading our snowy state to the North.

would russia be justified in indiscriminately bombing nyc

Yes

[Kowani]

would russia be justified in indiscriminately bombing nyc

Yes

bombing civilians is bad, wra

[Washington Resistance Army]

Yes

bombing civilians is bad, wra

Yes but imagine all the environmental friendly buildings we could build if the Russians blew up all the current ones : )

[Gravlen]

Still, it started a two-front war, which was unsustainable for Japan.

From above:

But the Soviet Union’s entry into the war on Aug. 8 changed everything for Japan’s leaders, who privately acknowledged the need to surrender promptly.

Allied intelligence had been reporting for months that Soviet entry would force the Japanese to capitulate. As early as April 11, 1945, the Joint Chiefs of Staff’s Joint Intelligence Staff had predicted: “If at any time the USSR should enter the war, all Japanese will realize that absolute defeat is inevitable.”

Truman also knew that the Soviet invasion would knock Japan out of the war. At the summit in Potsdam, Germany, on July 17, following Stalin’s assurance that the Soviets were coming in on schedule, Truman wrote in his diary, “He’ll be in the Jap War on August 15. Fini Japs when that comes about.” The next day, he assured his wife, “We’ll end the war a year sooner now, and think of the kids who won’t be killed!”

The Soviets invaded Japanese-held Manchuria at midnight on Aug. 8 and quickly destroyed the vaunted Kwantung Army. As predicted, the attack traumatized Japan’s leaders. They could not fight a two-front war, and the threat of a communist takeover of Japanese territory was their worst nightmare.

Prime Minister Kantaro Suzuki explained on Aug. 13 that Japan had to surrender quickly because “the Soviet Union will take not only Manchuria, Korea, Karafuto, but also Hokkaido. This would destroy the foundation of Japan. We must end the war when we can deal with the United States.”

And yet the Japanese military attempted to overthrow the Emperor just hours before the announced surrender that wasn’t a much of surrender announcement.

Parts of the Japanese military, a battalion lacking sufficient support from central actors such as the high command of the Imperial Japanese Army, any generals or admirals, and the Eastern District Army, attempted to overthrow the Emperor just hours before the unconditional surrender, yes.

Your point?

[Thermodolia]

And yet the Japanese military attempted to overthrow the Emperor just hours before the announced surrender that wasn’t a much of surrender announcement.

The overthrow was a bunch of officers that were rejected by everyone around them.

Most failed coups are. However the military and the emperor dragged its feet for a long ass time. If it wasn’t for the threat on American invasion and more bombs (yes we planned to use more) and combined with a Soviet invasion they wouldn’t have surrendered. Ever.

And even if Japan didn't surrender, they would be blockaded after their last Asian and Pacific holdings fell to the Soviets, Chinese, and European forces. By that point, the leadership would either surrender to try and save itself, or be toppled in a socialist revolution by angry Japanese people they had started giving weapons to in order to defend Japan.

It’s highly unlikely that Japan would have been just blockaded. The US and the USSR where both planning on invading the Japanese home islands. Hell the US was literally planning on using the A bombs to clear a path forward.

Japan wasn’t going to have a socialist revolution, mainly because the emperor was viewed as a god like Jesus to Christians. The Japanese citizens would have fought to the death if that’s what the emperor wanted.

If Japan didn’t surrender it would have been faced with a two prong invasion from the Soviets and the Americans. It would have resulted in the near destruction of the entire Japanese culture

[Thermodolia]

And yet the Japanese military attempted to overthrow the Emperor just hours before the announced surrender that wasn’t a much of surrender announcement.

Parts of the Japanese military, a battalion lacking sufficient support from central actors such as the high command of the Imperial Japanese Army, any generals or admirals, and the Eastern District Army, attempted to overthrow the Emperor just hours before the unconditional surrender, yes.

Your point?

Just noting it and pointing out how legitimately crazy parts of the military where