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Heloin wrote:

Sundiata wrote:But in some ways, neither were as good as the Middle Ages.

I can't imagine any way the 10th century can really compare to indoor plumbing.

We do live in convenient times.

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:

Sundiata wrote:But in some ways, neither were as good as the Middle Ages.

If you had a chance to go live the rest of your life in the Papal States in say, the 13th century (under one of the somewhat less money & sex inclined medieval popes), would you do it?

For the rest of my life, no. But it would be nice to experience parts of the Crusades and Reconquista. The music too.

San Lumen wrote:

Sundiata wrote:But in some ways, neither were as good as the Middle Ages.

what makes that such a great era?

The values of chivalry and courtly love in the upper classes.

Kowani wrote:Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (R-AZ) comes out against the $3.5 Trillion reconciliation deal

The deal was the compromise bill and the $3.5 trillion package, if they don't have the votes for one they don't have the votes for either - even Pelosi has said this last I checked.

If her and Manchin are serious about opposing this then they've set back infrastructure negotiations back to square one and increase the possibility of fucking everyone out of getting anything done, and for what? Some vague posturing towards "spending bad" and "Republicans are our friends, actually"?

Picairn wrote:

Kowani wrote:...i just now realized I marked Sinema as a republican in this post
ooops

At this point she's very much a Republican-lite.

i mean yes but still

Eahland wrote:

Kowani wrote:...i just now realized I marked Sinema as a republican in this post
ooops

I thought that was deliberate.

deliberately mislabeling congresspeople is fox news behaviour and i have some standards

Sundiata wrote:

San Lumen wrote:what makes that such a great era?

The values of chivalry and courtly love in the upper classes.

consider maybe that romanticized stories written by the upper classes might paint a slightly twisted picture

Sundiata wrote:

Heloin wrote:I can't imagine any way the 10th century can really compare to indoor plumbing.

We do live in convenient times.

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:If you had a chance to go live the rest of your life in the Papal States in say, the 13th century (under one of the somewhat less money & sex inclined medieval popes), would you do it?

For the rest of my life, no. But it would be nice to experience parts of the Crusades and Reconquista. The music too.

San Lumen wrote:what makes that such a great era?

The values of chivalry and courtly love in the upper classes.

sanitation was also terrible. Women and non whites had almost no rights, and if you weren't royalty you had little money but yeah a truly great era.

Valrifall wrote:If her and Manchin are serious about opposing this then they've set back infrastructure negotiations back to square one and increase the possibility of fucking everyone out of getting anything done, and for what?

Joe Manchin owns individual stock in the coal industry and has made over $400 million since joining congress. He doesn't want to hurt his profit.

Some vague posturing towards "spending bad" and "Republicans are our friends, actually"?

We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies. The world today is a business.

Sundiata wrote:

Heloin wrote:I can't imagine any way the 10th century can really compare to indoor plumbing.

We do live in convenient times.

Childhood mortality is the lowest it has ever been.

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:If you had a chance to go live the rest of your life in the Papal States in say, the 13th century (under one of the somewhat less money & sex inclined medieval popes), would you do it?

For the rest of my life, no. But it would be nice to experience parts of the Crusades and Reconquista. The music too.

San Lumen wrote:what makes that such a great era?

The values of chivalry and courtly love in the upper classes.

I'm unsure you if you want to actually go to the real medieval period, or want to go to Medieval Times.

Heloin wrote:Childhood mortality is the lowest it has ever been.

I mean that's cool and all, but I just want to go back to when we solved issues with duels.

Bahia Roja wrote:

Heloin wrote:Childhood mortality is the lowest it has ever been.

I mean that's cool and all, but I just want to go back to when we solved issues with duels.

pistol/sword duels = cringe
yugioh duels = based

Necroghastia wrote:

Bahia Roja wrote:
I mean that's cool and all, but I just want to go back to when we solved issues with duels.

pistol/sword duels = cringe
yugioh duels = based

Fuck Yu-Gi-Oh, I'm talking Bakugan duels

Kowani wrote:Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (R-AZ) comes out against the $3.5 Trillion reconciliation deal

Good, 3.5 trillion dollars is way too much money for the government to be spending

Bahia Roja wrote:

Heloin wrote:Childhood mortality is the lowest it has ever been.

I mean that's cool and all, but I just want to go back to when we solved issues with duels.

1800s United States?

Great Algerstonia wrote:

Kowani wrote:Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (R-AZ) comes out against the $3.5 Trillion reconciliation deal

Good, 3.5 trillion dollars is way too much money for the government to be spending

economic illiteracy go
okay, then what programs would you cut

Great Algerstonia wrote:

Kowani wrote:Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (R-AZ) comes out against the $3.5 Trillion reconciliation deal

Good, 3.5 trillion dollars is way too much money for the government to be spending

*stares at the 1.25 trillion spent on National Security*

Yup... way too much money...

Great Algerstonia wrote:

Kowani wrote:Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (R-AZ) comes out against the $3.5 Trillion reconciliation deal

Good, 3.5 trillion dollars is way too much money for the government to be spending

The government isn't some business whose sole purpose is creating profit.

Heloin wrote:

Sundiata wrote:We do live in convenient times.

Childhood mortality is the lowest it has ever been.

For the rest of my life, no. But it would be nice to experience parts of the Crusades and Reconquista. The music too.

The values of chivalry and courtly love in the upper classes.

I'm unsure you if you want to actually go to the real medieval period, or want to go to Medieval Times.

I don't have to attend Medieval Times to experience courtly love. In fact, I once have in the United States.

Heloin wrote:

Bahia Roja wrote:
I mean that's cool and all, but I just want to go back to when we solved issues with duels.

1800s United States?

Well, no. Cut slavery, sexism, poor sanitation and medicine, poor quality of living, industralization and the civil wars. Keep duels.

Bahia Roja wrote:

Great Algerstonia wrote:Good, 3.5 trillion dollars is way too much money for the government to be spending

*stares at the 1.25 trillion spent on National Security*

Yup... way too much money...

Yes, 3.5 is nearly triple 1.25. What is your point here? And I also think there's too much money being spent there and that some of it should be privatized

Sundiata wrote:

Heloin wrote:Childhood mortality is the lowest it has ever been.


I'm unsure you if you want to actually go to the real medieval period, or want to go to Medieval Times.

I don't have to attend Medieval Times to experience courtly love. In fact, I once have in the United States.

You kind of do since it didn't really exist historically.

Great Algerstonia wrote:

Bahia Roja wrote:
*stares at the 1.25 trillion spent on National Security*

Yup... way too much money...

Yes, 3.5 is nearly triple 1.25. What is your point here? And I also think there's too much money being spent there and that some of it should be privatized

It's not like it's just spent for no return, investing in infrastructure creates jobs, supports businesses, makes things more efficient which further helps the economy..

Great Algerstonia wrote:

Bahia Roja wrote:
*stares at the 1.25 trillion spent on National Security*

Yup... way too much money...

Yes, 3.5 is nearly triple 1.25. What is your point here?

The US is already spending too much money. Why not spend it in things that will actually contribute to improve society and boost the economy?

Great Algerstonia wrote:

Bahia Roja wrote:
*stares at the 1.25 trillion spent on National Security*

Yup... way too much money...

Yes, 3.5 is nearly triple 1.25. What is your point here? And I also think there's too much money being spent there and that some of it should be privatized

You do realize it’s 3.5 trillion spent over the course of a decade, whereas that trillion and a quarter is spent every single year, right?

Bahia Roja wrote:

Great Algerstonia wrote:Good, 3.5 trillion dollars is way too much money for the government to be spending

*stares at the 1.25 trillion spent on National Security*

Yup... way too much money...

And it is set to increase due to the often forgotten but is definitely a serious national security threat: climate change damaging or destroying US military assets.

Heloin wrote:

Sundiata wrote:I don't have to attend Medieval Times to experience courtly love. In fact, I once have in the United States.

You kind of do since it didn't really exist historically.

Not as dramatically as it did in literature, no. But Dante expressed it best. In the United States it's easier to realize for most people as certain barriers are gone.

Bahia Roja wrote:

Heloin wrote:1800s United States?

Well, no. Cut slavery, sexism, poor sanitation and medicine, poor quality of living, industralization and the civil wars. Keep duels.

The last guy I met who was all gung ho for duels lost three straight to me in a sword fight with practice swords.

I have virtually no training in sword fighting.

I don’t think people yearning for duels have really thought their shit through. Or, you know, like…looked a community calendar or something to find a place you can sword fight and not die, or run around with pretendy guns and play soldier person and not die.

I’ll never understand people thinking it’d be cool to kill a person they’re beefing with.