American Politics Thread VI: Can't We All Just Get Along?

[Sundiata]

But in some ways, neither were as good as the Middle Ages.

I can't imagine any way the 10th century can really compare to indoor plumbing.

We do live in convenient times.

But in some ways, neither were as good as the Middle Ages.

If you had a chance to go live the rest of your life in the Papal States in say, the 13th century (under one of the somewhat less money & sex inclined medieval popes), would you do it?

For the rest of my life, no. But it would be nice to experience parts of the Crusades and Reconquista. The music too.

But in some ways, neither were as good as the Middle Ages.

what makes that such a great era?

The values of chivalry and courtly love in the upper classes.

[Valrifall]

Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (R-AZ) comes out against the $3.5 Trillion reconciliation deal

The deal was the compromise bill and the $3.5 trillion package, if they don't have the votes for one they don't have the votes for either - even Pelosi has said this last I checked.

If her and Manchin are serious about opposing this then they've set back infrastructure negotiations back to square one and increase the possibility of fucking everyone out of getting anything done, and for what? Some vague posturing towards "spending bad" and "Republicans are our friends, actually"?

[Kowani]

...i just now realized I marked Sinema as a republican in this post
ooops

At this point she's very much a Republican-lite.

i mean yes but still

...i just now realized I marked Sinema as a republican in this post
ooops

I thought that was deliberate.

deliberately mislabeling congresspeople is fox news behaviour and i have some standards

what makes that such a great era?

The values of chivalry and courtly love in the upper classes.

consider maybe that romanticized stories written by the upper classes might paint a slightly twisted picture

[San Lumen]

I can't imagine any way the 10th century can really compare to indoor plumbing.

We do live in convenient times.

If you had a chance to go live the rest of your life in the Papal States in say, the 13th century (under one of the somewhat less money & sex inclined medieval popes), would you do it?

For the rest of my life, no. But it would be nice to experience parts of the Crusades and Reconquista. The music too.

what makes that such a great era?

The values of chivalry and courtly love in the upper classes.

sanitation was also terrible. Women and non whites had almost no rights, and if you weren't royalty you had little money but yeah a truly great era.

[Sundiata]

If her and Manchin are serious about opposing this then they've set back infrastructure negotiations back to square one and increase the possibility of fucking everyone out of getting anything done, and for what?

Joe Manchin owns individual stock in the coal industry and has made over $400 million since joining congress. He doesn't want to hurt his profit.

Some vague posturing towards "spending bad" and "Republicans are our friends, actually"?

We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies. The world today is a business.

[Heloin]

I can't imagine any way the 10th century can really compare to indoor plumbing.

We do live in convenient times.

Childhood mortality is the lowest it has ever been.

If you had a chance to go live the rest of your life in the Papal States in say, the 13th century (under one of the somewhat less money & sex inclined medieval popes), would you do it?

For the rest of my life, no. But it would be nice to experience parts of the Crusades and Reconquista. The music too.

what makes that such a great era?

The values of chivalry and courtly love in the upper classes.

I'm unsure you if you want to actually go to the real medieval period, or want to go to Medieval Times.

[Bahia Roja]

Childhood mortality is the lowest it has ever been.

I mean that's cool and all, but I just want to go back to when we solved issues with duels.

[Necroghastia]

Childhood mortality is the lowest it has ever been.

I mean that's cool and all, but I just want to go back to when we solved issues with duels.

pistol/sword duels = cringe
yugioh duels = based

[Bahia Roja]

I mean that's cool and all, but I just want to go back to when we solved issues with duels.

pistol/sword duels = cringe
yugioh duels = based

Fuck Yu-Gi-Oh, I'm talking Bakugan duels

[Great Algerstonia]

Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (R-AZ) comes out against the $3.5 Trillion reconciliation deal

Good, 3.5 trillion dollars is way too much money for the government to be spending

[Heloin]

Childhood mortality is the lowest it has ever been.

I mean that's cool and all, but I just want to go back to when we solved issues with duels.

1800s United States?

[Kowani]

Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (R-AZ) comes out against the $3.5 Trillion reconciliation deal

Good, 3.5 trillion dollars is way too much money for the government to be spending

economic illiteracy go
okay, then what programs would you cut

[Bahia Roja]

Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (R-AZ) comes out against the $3.5 Trillion reconciliation deal

Good, 3.5 trillion dollars is way too much money for the government to be spending

*stares at the 1.25 trillion spent on National Security*

Yup... way too much money...

[Bombadil]

The increasing polarization and disinformation around the Covid-19 vaccine has led to some people attempting to “disguise their appearance” and get vaccinated in secret, according to a Missouri doctor.

Dr Priscilla Frase, a hospitalist and chief medical information officer at Ozarks Healthcare in West Plains, said physicians had experienced a number of people who have asked to covertly receive the vaccine to avoid conflict with vaccine skeptical family, friends and co-workers.

In a video produced by Ozarks Healthcare, Frase said one pharmacist reported that several people: “Even went so far as to say: ‘Please, please, please don’t let anybody know that I got this vaccine.’”

The desire for privacy comes from a fear about how people will respond, Frase said. People who have changed their minds and decided to get the vaccine may have “had some experience that’s sort of changed their mind from the viewpoint of those in their family, those in their friendship circles or their work circles”, she said.

“They did their own research on it, and they talked to people and made the decisions themselves,” Frase added.

“But even though they were able to make that decision themselves, they didn’t want to have to deal with the peer pressure or the outbursts from other people about them, quote: ‘Giving in to everything.’”

Link

[Kanadorika]

Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (R-AZ) comes out against the $3.5 Trillion reconciliation deal

Good, 3.5 trillion dollars is way too much money for the government to be spending

The government isn't some business whose sole purpose is creating profit.

[Sundiata]

We do live in convenient times.

Childhood mortality is the lowest it has ever been.

For the rest of my life, no. But it would be nice to experience parts of the Crusades and Reconquista. The music too.

The values of chivalry and courtly love in the upper classes.

I'm unsure you if you want to actually go to the real medieval period, or want to go to Medieval Times.

I don't have to attend Medieval Times to experience courtly love. In fact, I once have in the United States.

[Bahia Roja]

I mean that's cool and all, but I just want to go back to when we solved issues with duels.

1800s United States?

Well, no. Cut slavery, sexism, poor sanitation and medicine, poor quality of living, industralization and the civil wars. Keep duels.

[Great Algerstonia]

Good, 3.5 trillion dollars is way too much money for the government to be spending

*stares at the 1.25 trillion spent on National Security*

Yup... way too much money...

Yes, 3.5 is nearly triple 1.25. What is your point here? And I also think there's too much money being spent there and that some of it should be privatized

[Heloin]

Childhood mortality is the lowest it has ever been.


I'm unsure you if you want to actually go to the real medieval period, or want to go to Medieval Times.

I don't have to attend Medieval Times to experience courtly love. In fact, I once have in the United States.

You kind of do since it didn't really exist historically.

[Bombadil]

*stares at the 1.25 trillion spent on National Security*

Yup... way too much money...

Yes, 3.5 is nearly triple 1.25. What is your point here? And I also think there's too much money being spent there and that some of it should be privatized

It's not like it's just spent for no return, investing in infrastructure creates jobs, supports businesses, makes things more efficient which further helps the economy..

[Bahia Roja]

*stares at the 1.25 trillion spent on National Security*

Yup... way too much money...

Yes, 3.5 is nearly triple 1.25. What is your point here?

The US is already spending too much money. Why not spend it in things that will actually contribute to improve society and boost the economy?

[Omniabstracta]

*stares at the 1.25 trillion spent on National Security*

Yup... way too much money...

Yes, 3.5 is nearly triple 1.25. What is your point here? And I also think there's too much money being spent there and that some of it should be privatized

You do realize it’s 3.5 trillion spent over the course of a decade, whereas that trillion and a quarter is spent every single year, right?

[Resilient Acceleration]

Good, 3.5 trillion dollars is way too much money for the government to be spending

*stares at the 1.25 trillion spent on National Security*

Yup... way too much money...

And it is set to increase due to the often forgotten but is definitely a serious national security threat: climate change damaging or destroying US military assets.

[Sundiata]

I don't have to attend Medieval Times to experience courtly love. In fact, I once have in the United States.

You kind of do since it didn't really exist historically.

Not as dramatically as it did in literature, no. But Dante expressed it best. In the United States it's easier to realize for most people as certain barriers are gone.

[Cannot think of a name]

1800s United States?

Well, no. Cut slavery, sexism, poor sanitation and medicine, poor quality of living, industralization and the civil wars. Keep duels.

The last guy I met who was all gung ho for duels lost three straight to me in a sword fight with practice swords.

I have virtually no training in sword fighting.

I don’t think people yearning for duels have really thought their shit through. Or, you know, like…looked a community calendar or something to find a place you can sword fight and not die, or run around with pretendy guns and play soldier person and not die.

I’ll never understand people thinking it’d be cool to kill a person they’re beefing with.