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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:48 pm
by Tarsonis
Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Want to tear the country apart? That's how you'd do it.

They’ve already set on that path Lumen. They don’t care. They want a civil war


don't be so dramatic. there's not gonna be a civil war.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:49 pm
by San Lumen
Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Want to tear the country apart? That's how you'd do it.

They’ve already set on that path Lumen. They don’t care. They want a civil war


Then thats what they will get, The country will be torn apart and the great experiment will finally come to an end.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:49 pm
by The Reformed American Republic
Tarsonis wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:They’ve already set on that path Lumen. They don’t care. They want a civil war


don't be so dramatic. there's not gonna be a civil war.

Maybe not a full fledged one, but we're not heading anywhere good.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:49 pm
by Washington Resistance Army
Tarsonis wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:They’ve already set on that path Lumen. They don’t care. They want a civil war


don't be so dramatic. there's not gonna be a civil war.


I dunno, wait for the serious food shortages from climate change to start and anything will be possible. There's already some scary projections out there.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:50 pm
by Tarsonis
The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
don't be so dramatic. there's not gonna be a civil war.

Maybe not a full fledged one, but we're not heading anywhere good.


Raytheon doesn't want a civil war. it's bad for business.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:51 pm
by The Reformed American Republic
Tarsonis wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Maybe not a full fledged one, but we're not heading anywhere good.


Raytheon doesn't want a civil war. it's bad for business.

The GOP base isn't loyal to Raytheon, and while some of the more establishment types are, the new wave of Qanon influenced politicians are probably not.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:51 pm
by Tarsonis
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
don't be so dramatic. there's not gonna be a civil war.


I dunno, wait for the serious food shortages from climate change to start and anything will be possible. There's already some scary projections out there.


there's always scary projections. People get paid to make them so people will be scared.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:51 pm
by San Lumen
Tarsonis wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:They’ve already set on that path Lumen. They don’t care. They want a civil war


don't be so dramatic. there's not gonna be a civil war.


How do you expect people would react if Republicans decide to start overturning statewide elections or a presidential election?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:51 pm
by Thermodolia
Tarsonis wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:They’ve already set on that path Lumen. They don’t care. They want a civil war


don't be so dramatic. there's not gonna be a civil war.

I’m not saying there is going to be one, I don’t think there is. But there’s a good chunk of the GOP that openly wants a civil war and will do anything to get it. There’s a bunch of them who want nothing more than to kill liberals and anyone who opposes them

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:52 pm
by Washington Resistance Army
Tarsonis wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I dunno, wait for the serious food shortages from climate change to start and anything will be possible. There's already some scary projections out there.


there's always scary projections. People get paid to make them so people will be scared.


And the worst part is they've all been coming true, we're so fucked lol

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:52 pm
by Tarsonis
Thermodolia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
don't be so dramatic. there's not gonna be a civil war.

I’m not saying there is going to be one, I don’t think there is. But there’s a good chunk of the GOP that openly wants a civil war and will do anything to get it. There’s a bunch of them who want nothing more than to kill liberals and anyone who opposes them


They're much more of a minority than you think. They're just loud and shouty.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:54 pm
by Tarsonis
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
there's always scary projections. People get paid to make them so people will be scared.


And the worst part is they've all been coming true, we're so fucked lol


I dunno, that ice age never happened

But, St. Malachy predicted that Pope Francis' successor will be the last Pope before the end of the world. Sounds like things are right on schedule.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:57 pm
by Picairn
Washington Resistance Army wrote:FDR very much did not face that. He was able to actually bully SCOTUS into allowing anything and everything unconstitutional he did, Biden would not be able to do the same. You'd have a hoard of Q types descend on Washington again and they'd probably be armed this time.

The threat of court-packing cost FDR his House, his Senate and his New Deal. The conservative Democrats in opposition to FDR's bill banded together and killed it while Republicans watched on the sidelines. After major wins in the 1938 Congressional election, the Republicans allied with the conservative Democrats to veto many proposals led by more liberal Democrats. The Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 was the last major New Deal legislation enacted into law.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:00 pm
by Immortan Khan
Tarsonis wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:They’ve already set on that path Lumen. They don’t care. They want a civil war


don't be so dramatic. there's not gonna be a civil war.

Never say never. I mean something like 2/3 of southern Republicans now support secession. Funnily enough in the Heartland it's the independents most firmly in support of secession and that's reaching 40%+ iirc.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:04 pm
by Immortan Khan
Tarsonis wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I’m not saying there is going to be one, I don’t think there is. But there’s a good chunk of the GOP that openly wants a civil war and will do anything to get it. There’s a bunch of them who want nothing more than to kill liberals and anyone who opposes them


They're much more of a minority than you think. They're just loud and shouty.

Being a minority doesn't prevent them from getting the ball rolling. Most American colonists didn't want to start an uprising and even fewer wanted to overthrow the Crown. 245 years later...

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:07 pm
by Bombadil
Immortan Khan wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
They're much more of a minority than you think. They're just loud and shouty.

Being a minority doesn't prevent them from getting the ball rolling. Most American colonists didn't want to start an uprising and even fewer wanted to overthrow the Crown. 245 years later...


Musket to musket fine, modern federal power against a bunch of loudmouth militias.. lol..

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:07 pm
by Immortan Khan
I'm looking forward to the hydraulic empires along the Mississippi vying for control of it and its tributaries while fending off the techno-barbarian prairie nomads.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:07 pm
by Immortan Khan
Bombadil wrote:
Immortan Khan wrote:Being a minority doesn't prevent them from getting the ball rolling. Most American colonists didn't want to start an uprising and even fewer wanted to overthrow the Crown. 245 years later...


Musket to musket fine, modern federal power against a bunch of loudmouth militias.. lol..

Says the country that just lost to the Taliban.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:09 pm
by Bombadil
Immortan Khan wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Musket to musket fine, modern federal power against a bunch of loudmouth militias.. lol..

Says the country that just lost to the Taliban.


IT WAS A TIE!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:11 pm
by Washington Resistance Army
Immortan Khan wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Musket to musket fine, modern federal power against a bunch of loudmouth militias.. lol..

Says the country that just lost to the Taliban.


This point cannot be reiterated enough. People think the federal government is weak because the past several years has shown nothing but crippling weakness from it. Like, if we can't beat a bunch of illiterate farmers and shepherds with antiquated and improvised gear after trying for nearly 20 years then I don't have much hope for us putting down a home grown insurgency if the GOP decides to start one.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:11 pm
by Picairn
Immortan Khan wrote:Says the country that just lost to the Taliban.

I would like to see how the federal government handles guerilla warfare in the Rocky Mountains.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:17 pm
by Thermodolia
Picairn wrote:
Immortan Khan wrote:Says the country that just lost to the Taliban.

I would like to see how the federal government handles guerilla warfare in the Rocky Mountains.

Nuke from orbit.

Can’t have an insurgency when there’s no insurgents to exist

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:19 pm
by Immortan Khan
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Immortan Khan wrote:Says the country that just lost to the Taliban.


This point cannot be reiterated enough. People think the federal government is weak because the past several years has shown nothing but crippling weakness from it. Like, if we can't beat a bunch of illiterate farmers and shepherds with antiquated and improvised gear after trying for nearly 20 years then I don't have much hope for us putting down a home grown insurgency if the GOP decides to start one.

I don't think people also realize how much heavy weapons people can access in the US. This isn't getting into how foreign countries would definitely smuggle weapons in.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:20 pm
by Omniabstracta
Thermodolia wrote:
Picairn wrote:I would like to see how the federal government handles guerilla warfare in the Rocky Mountains.

Nuke from orbit.

Can’t have an insurgency when there’s no insurgents to exist

Leveling the Rockies was long overdue anyway, we haven’t had big enough projects for the Army Corps of Engineers as of late.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:24 pm
by Picairn
Immortan Khan wrote:I don't think people also realize how much heavy weapons people can access in the US. This isn't getting into how foreign countries would definitely smuggle weapons in.

Smuggle? Can they bypass the US Navy? After all, can't smuggle into the US (whether by land or by sea) if your weapon crates lay at the bottom of the sea.