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American Politics Thread VI: Can't We All Just Get Along?

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Is it no longer possible to collaborate with political opponents at this stage?

It is no longer possible.
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It is possible.
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24%
Collaboration is possible if we have similar economic views.
25
7%
Collaboration is possible if we have similar cultural/social views.
58
15%
Why would I collaborate with anyone? Going monke is the best way forward.
58
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Total votes : 376

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:03 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:No we can't get along and my message to any fan of the former president is simple. I have no intention nor desire to do you harm, but we are not friends and we can't be cool if you like the pathological liar we last had in office. I would appreciate if any Trump supporters just stay away from me. I'm not trying to understand any longer why someone would back a man who talked about murdering children or allowed people to die from covid.

Roj, one can at least try to de-Trumpify them. Like I have before.


They don't want to de trumpify. This is their life now, and since they've alienated friends and family with their cultish behavior and conspiracy theories, this is all they have left.
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Postby Torisakia » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:03 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Prog dems: "Americans need publicHealthcare. We can't have people forgoing treatment because they'd have to pay out of pocket."

House GOP: Liberals, you say you just want to improve society and yet vuvezla communism antifa vote was rigged.

The Joe Chiefs of Staff (Joe Biden and Joe Manchin): We just want to get everyone to compromise.

You would think they would realize by now that compromise isn't possible and never will be. Of course that's my fault for thinking any of these politicians have any skills in cognitive awareness.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:04 am

https://trib.com/news/state-and-regiona ... 6085f.html

Wyoming may change its primary system to ranked choice or open primary.

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Postby Aggicificicerous » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:04 am

Sundiata wrote:Ok, isn't Joe Manchin just doing the same thing as Joe Lieberman under the Obama administration? Preventing a public option to appease his campaign donors?


I'm starting to suspect he's got Biden's blessing. Very convenient to always have someone 'sabotaging' the government so it never has to do anything.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:05 am

Torisakia wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Prog dems: "Americans need publicHealthcare. We can't have people forgoing treatment because they'd have to pay out of pocket."

House GOP: Liberals, you say you just want to improve society and yet vuvezla communism antifa vote was rigged.

The Joe Chiefs of Staff (Joe Biden and Joe Manchin): We just want to get everyone to compromise.

You would think they would realize by now that compromise isn't possible and never will be. Of course that's my fault for thinking any of these politicians have any skills in cognitive awareness.


They want us to come together and heal. I'm worried that if I get within a few feet of the other side, they'll pull out a knife and stick it in.
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Postby Torisakia » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:09 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Torisakia wrote:You would think they would realize by now that compromise isn't possible and never will be. Of course that's my fault for thinking any of these politicians have any skills in cognitive awareness.


They want us to come together and heal. I'm worried that if I get within a few feet of the other side, they'll pull out a knife and stick it in.

We'll never come together and heal, so you likely don't have to worry about getting close to the other side because they in turn won't get close to you.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:10 am

Torisakia wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
They want us to come together and heal. I'm worried that if I get within a few feet of the other side, they'll pull out a knife and stick it in.

We'll never come together and heal, so you likely don't have to worry about getting close to the other side because they in turn won't get close to you.


Yeah i think last year's crap finally convinced me 100% that I don't want anything to do with the Trump fanbase.
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:11 am

San Lumen wrote:https://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/lawmakers-look-to-change-how-wyoming-holds-statewide-elections/article_37cefa6d-bbfe-5643-97f9-506b5026085f.html

Wyoming may change its primary system to ranked choice or open primary.

Not sure whether to be happy or disappointed that Cheney has no chance now.
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:12 am

San Lumen wrote:https://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/lawmakers-look-to-change-how-wyoming-holds-statewide-elections/article_37cefa6d-bbfe-5643-97f9-506b5026085f.html

Wyoming may change its primary system to ranked choice or open primary.

Yay
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Postby Celritannia » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:12 am

Is this the war of 1812? Because a Canadian just took over DC politics :lol:

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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:13 am

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/lawmakers-look-to-change-how-wyoming-holds-statewide-elections/article_37cefa6d-bbfe-5643-97f9-506b5026085f.html

Wyoming may change its primary system to ranked choice or open primary.

Not sure whether to be happy or disappointed that Cheney has no chance now.

What makes you think that? They are apparently doing it to prevent a Trumpist takeover of the state.

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Postby Torisakia » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:13 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Torisakia wrote:We'll never come together and heal, so you likely don't have to worry about getting close to the other side because they in turn won't get close to you.


Yeah i think last year's crap finally convinced me 100% that I don't want anything to do with the Trump fanbase.

I realized that I didn't want anything to do with fanbases of either side a while back. I originally didn't like one side, until I realized the other side is equally as stupid.

This is why I've voted for Godzilla in the past several elections. We wouldn't be the shithole we are now if he were President.
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Postby The Temple of the Computer » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:13 am

Celritannia wrote:Is this the war of 1812? Because a Canadian just took over DC politics :lol:

What happened now? Did Ted Cruz do something stupid again?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:14 am

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/lawmakers-look-to-change-how-wyoming-holds-statewide-elections/article_37cefa6d-bbfe-5643-97f9-506b5026085f.html

Wyoming may change its primary system to ranked choice or open primary.

Not sure whether to be happy or disappointed that Cheney has no chance now.


I kinda want to say the latter because Trumpism is insane and while neoconservatism is a failed disaster they at least live in the same reality as other people.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:14 am

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/lawmakers-look-to-change-how-wyoming-holds-statewide-elections/article_37cefa6d-bbfe-5643-97f9-506b5026085f.html

Wyoming may change its primary system to ranked choice or open primary.

Not sure whether to be happy or disappointed that Cheney has no chance now.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:14 am

Torisakia wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Yeah i think last year's crap finally convinced me 100% that I don't want anything to do with the Trump fanbase.

I realized that I didn't want anything to do with fanbases of either side a while back. I originally didn't like one side, until I realized the other side is equally as stupid.

This is why I've voted for Godzilla in the past several elections. We wouldn't be the shithole we are now if he were President.


I held out hope till 2020 that there were still many normal people among the Trump fanbase who could be pulled back from the brink. 2020 and the reaction to the election among people I know convinced me I was wrong about that.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:15 am

Torisakia wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Yeah i think last year's crap finally convinced me 100% that I don't want anything to do with the Trump fanbase.

I realized that I didn't want anything to do with fanbases of either side a while back. I originally didn't like one side, until I realized the other side is equally as stupid.

This is why I've voted for Godzilla in the past several elections. We wouldn't be the shithole we are now if he were President.

That’s an excellent idea. Who would his VP be?

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:15 am

San Lumen wrote:
Torisakia wrote:I realized that I didn't want anything to do with fanbases of either side a while back. I originally didn't like one side, until I realized the other side is equally as stupid.

This is why I've voted for Godzilla in the past several elections. We wouldn't be the shithole we are now if he were President.

That’s an excellent idea. Who would his VP be?


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Postby Torisakia » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:16 am

San Lumen wrote:
Torisakia wrote:I realized that I didn't want anything to do with fanbases of either side a while back. I originally didn't like one side, until I realized the other side is equally as stupid.

This is why I've voted for Godzilla in the past several elections. We wouldn't be the shithole we are now if he were President.

That’s an excellent idea. Who would his VP be?

Rodan, no question.
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Postby The Temple of the Computer » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:17 am

Torisakia wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Yeah i think last year's crap finally convinced me 100% that I don't want anything to do with the Trump fanbase.

I realized that I didn't want anything to do with fanbases of either side a while back. I originally didn't like one side, until I realized the other side is equally as stupid.

This is why I've voted for Godzilla in the past several elections. We wouldn't be the shithole we are now if he were President.

I am more of an Azathoth for President guy, but to each their own.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:17 am

San Lumen wrote:
Torisakia wrote:I realized that I didn't want anything to do with fanbases of either side a while back. I originally didn't like one side, until I realized the other side is equally as stupid.

This is why I've voted for Godzilla in the past several elections. We wouldn't be the shithole we are now if he were President.

That’s an excellent idea. Who would his VP be?


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Postby Torisakia » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:17 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Torisakia wrote:I realized that I didn't want anything to do with fanbases of either side a while back. I originally didn't like one side, until I realized the other side is equally as stupid.

This is why I've voted for Godzilla in the past several elections. We wouldn't be the shithole we are now if he were President.


I held out hope till 2020 that there were still many normal people among the Trump fanbase who could be pulled back from the brink. 2020 and the reaction to the election among people I know convinced me I was wrong about that.

Rookie mistake. Once people get washed away in the political tide, they never change their minds.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:17 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
San Lumen wrote:That’s an excellent idea. Who would his VP be?


Me.


Id vote for you for any position in a heartbeat.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:18 am

Torisakia wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I held out hope till 2020 that there were still many normal people among the Trump fanbase who could be pulled back from the brink. 2020 and the reaction to the election among people I know convinced me I was wrong about that.

Rookie mistake. Once people get washed away in the political tide, they never change their minds.


After talking to a good number of Trump fans following the election, I realized the Kool aid wasn't just drank, it was forced into them via IV. They really think Trump won and Biden rigged the election.
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Senkaku » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:20 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:That’s an excellent idea. Who would his VP be?


Gamera.

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